PTI Azaadi March 2022: Updates and Discussion

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Say goodbye to Pakistan, establishment want to destroy it. They don’t care about Public. They only care about having power.

Leave Pakistan as soon as possible, regardless of where you go, ME, East Asia, South Africa, Brazil, Europe or North America.

No they should stand down

 

[HAIDER]

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530547032351510528

 

[Abid123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530547032351510528

August 2023 are you kidding me?

 

[Amaa'n]

can i ban you for indirectly calling fauji mafia baygayrat? lols

Feel free to take below the belt shots like i do b/w the lines…. No harm should come to you , atleast not from me

 

[newb3e]

Feel free to take below the belt shots like i do b/w the lines…. No harm should come to you , atleast not from me

ohh man now i have support of pdf establishment haha

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530547032351510528

MArriyum and her party have a past of telling a totally opposite thing of what is about to happen.

 

[Tamerlane]

In 2014 too, without Tahirul Qadri's workers, the dharna would not have been sustained. As their leader, the PTI supporters used to return home instead of spending the whole day at the sit-in.

This is exactly what I’ve said several times before. Tahirul Qadri's people were the ones who sustained the dharna in 2014, not PTI.

To maintain a dharna you need a lot of preparation with tents, food, toilets etc. This was not done. They were not in a position to stay there for several days.

I have a suspicion that the establishment threatened Imran Khan that they will massacre 100s of his workers if he didn’t back off. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense for him to back off so suddenly.

 

[The Terminator]

so now its all in the open that army is a corrupt institution that is solely responsible for destruction of Pakistan,it is now in the open that FATA complaining about armys brutality are correct,Baloch protest against Army are correct this one institution responsible for protecting Pakistan is in reality on a mission to end Pakistan anyone associated with this corrupt institution is a murderer how do we get rid of it?

So you wanna solution to that problem! Haven't you heard a very famous guy in the recent past named Ashir Azeem? Only he suggests the solution to get this system on track without any bloodthirsty revolution kind of $hit.

How does establishment control the top tier political leadership and judiciary, and a brief solution:

Then it's solution in detail:

In another vlog, he suggests the newly elected PM should implement these reforms within first 10, 15 days maximum. That must be carried out during the newly elected Govt's honeymoon period. Because the PM at that time would have 0 baggage on him and would be at the top of his popularity then.

If any Govt if it settles down for even 30, 45 days or so and then tries to implement those reforms would be facing long marches, public protests and would be thrown out of the window by the same establishment on charges/excuses of anything like inflation, incapable, corrupt, traitors, bad Governance, law and order situation etc etc. The excuse of operation regime toppling by the deep state can be of huge varieties or sizes.

Then he also explains that how this military elite establishment's control on the highest echelons of power and leadership then trickles down to the very streets and homes you live in. And how this enables them to operate those notorious "Kalay sheeshon Wala Vigo dala" etc etc. against their own citizens with complete impunity. And how there's a parallel shadow Govt and departments working parallel in the system with absolute power and authority. Here

And if somone thinks that Martial Law and our Generals are our saviours and the only chance for us to progress then it's a reminder for them that they ruled approximately half of the Pakistan's total life span with absolute authority and power in their hands. But still they didn't changed the system for the greater good of the public and in the wider interests of the Pakistan. And have ruled from behind the scenes or kept playing with the fragile democratic system of this country and reset that in it's infancy again and again. Plz watch the especially last half of this video about commissions and omissions. How the military dictators or any other Govt should have done taken those measures which they deliberately didn't do and what they have been doing what they shouldn't be doing at all in commissions and omissions.

So here you are with a summary of the main core issues and their suggested solutions!

There are many more educating videos there but I hope you would now have gotten the gist of these matters now. It's great to hear from a CSS qualified, well known, honest, patriot and experienced person in the system. The man who have the first hand knowledge of the ins and outs of the system and is honest and courageous enough to educate the people in detail. The reason he has the courage to speak the truth publicly and even then haven't gone missing is that he is permanently settled in Canada nowadays. And there's also a disheartening story that why he left Pakistan while he wasn't willing to leave his own country and so on.

May be the Ilahi PLAN is to expose them all. The more time is passing the more they're getting exposed, so that cleaning up ops get easier...

boss hamai toh sirf aik side of the picture dikhaye gaye hai hamesha!

what if army actually committed war crimes in fata and balochistan!

idk about Fata but in balochistan rishwat ka bazar wardi nay full garam kia howa hai!

Actually, Issue starts from level when they get red collar strip not just generals.

not now, it was open for decades -- some people couldn't see it , some didn't want to see it and some were busy in PR campaign (like the mods/admins of this forum).

Imran khan himself says that he is a pacifist , so don't expect change from him -- what he has done is that he has the laid the foundation of change (system).

getting rid means total change of system (like the Iran model) , right now, it's not the time.

The fact of the case is that IK is fighting, with very lean resources, against combined forces of US-West, Mir Bajwa & Co., Criminal Political Mafia and a judiciary, subservient to aforementioneds. Let us hope, if he can carve out a victory for Pakistan, against this obnoxious and formidable enemy.

Imran khan is looking to play within the system, this will never work -- only complete change of system is the solution (getting rid of ruling elite ) -- we don't have anyone to lead the masses towards revolution (neither are the masses prepared).


Army says Yes to every order given by the Generals, so it's the whole institution.

More than the generals, the bigger criminal is the judiciary.

The generals work behind the scenes but the SC is complicit in broad daylight while the police kill protesters.

Iranian style revolution but don't know if Pakistani have it in them or not!

Whats your analysis of current scenario?

One sentence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530520397527109633

As per many reports the PDM govt. and Shahbaz Sharif, other ministers insisting on the elections next year and completing full term, is just political posturing, or point scoring and giving them a face saving.

Any perception of they leaving the govt. in a week and elections in Oct. this year would have given a bad perception( they still think they can manage it) and losing the electorates and the remaining prestige, if there is any.

Will try to make up for the loss through election rigging through ECP, the game plan.

And SC coming hard on Shanbaz and Hamza is a testimony that their time is up and their days are numbered. Some serious realization on Estab. part, now they seems to know they did a serious miscalculation.

کیونکہ یہ سارے باجوے کے کتے تھے

I have limited trust in any guarantee from third part unless it is official announcement

Decision to call back Jalsa has resulted in some damage
What happened?

> Oversea voter revoke
> Petrol prices increase
> NAB powers being curbed
>Criminals are busy wiping their criminal trial and meddling with justice

The dharna call back has resulted in anti Freedom laws
The extra time is just solidifying the Enemies of Pakistan PDM

The guarantee or no guarantee has no value unless elections date is announced

I am / was of strongest opinion that should have maintained Complete Shut down of economy

0 days - 180 Days Dharna

Only a Indian Punjab Farmer's Dharna like Push can topple corrupt





Economy can wait
Economy can fail no problem
Economy should not be basis to protect corrupt


The fight needs to be announced and then a Continuous no Cooperation



COMPLETE RESET IS NEEDED BY PAKISTAN IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD
Not a compromise to allow corrupt roam free

What should be said in this situation

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530498409370726412

Know thy enemy. Mian and gang, though filthy creatures are just pawns. The real player are the ones who are hier of the British raj.

They were after all Britain's paid employees and instrumental in suppressing local freedom fighters.

Now they are running the country as their private inheritance and suppressing true freedom.

Say goodbye to Pakistan, establishment want to destroy it. They don’t care about Public. They only care about having power. They are in control since 1948, Killer of Liaquat Ali khan. Everyone know about their dirty games. Now they want to open FIR against those who speak the truth.

Leave Pakistan as soon as possible, regardless of where you go, ME, East Asia, South Africa, Brazil, Europe or North America.

 

[newb3e]

So you wanna solution to that problem! Haven't you heard a very famous guy in the recent past named Ashir Azeem? Only he suggests the solution to get this system on track without any bloodthirsty revolution kind of $hit.

How does establishment control the top tier political leadership and judiciary, and a brief solution:

Then it's solution in detail:

In another vlog, he suggests the newly elected PM should implement these reforms within first 10, 15 days maximum. That must be carried out during the newly elected Govt's honeymoon period. Because the PM at that time would have 0 baggage on him and would be at the top of his popularity then.

If any Govt if it settles down for even 30, 45 days or so and then tries to implement those reforms would be facing long marches, public protests and would be thrown out of the window by the same establishment on charges/excuses of anything like inflation, incapable, corrupt, traitors, bad Governance, law and order situation etc etc. The excuse of operation regime toppling by the deep state can be of huge varieties or sizes.

Then he also explains that how this military elite establishment's control on the highest echelons of power and leadership then trickles down to the very streets and homes you live in. And how this enables them to operate those notorious "Kalay sheeshon Wala Vigo dala" etc etc. against their own citizens with complete impunity. And how there's a parallel shadow Govt and departments working parallel in the system with absolute power and authority. Here

And if somone thinks that Martial Law and our Generals are our saviours and the only chance for us to progress then it's a reminder for them that they ruled approximately half of the Pakistan's total life span with absolute authority and power in their hands. But still they didn't changed the system for the greater good of the public and in the wider interests of the Pakistan. And have ruled from behind the scenes or kept playing with the fragile democratic system of this country and reset that in it's infancy again and again. Plz watch the especially last half of this video about commissions and omissions. How the military dictators or any other Govt should have done taken those measures which they deliberately didn't do and what they have been doing what they shouldn't be doing at all in commissions and omissions.

So here you are with a summary of the main core issues and their suggested solutions!

There are many more educating videos there but I hope you would now have gotten the gist of these matters now. It's great to hear from a CSS qualified, well known, honest, patriot and experienced person in the system. The man who have the first hand knowledge of the ins and outs of the system and is honest and courageous enough to educate the people in detail. The reason he has the courage to speak the truth publicly and even then haven't gone missing is that he is permanently settled in Canada nowadays. And there's also a disheartening story that why he left Pakistan while he wasn't willing to leave his own country and so on.

boss from where youll get that leader?

every politicians is in bed with Wardi Mafia is hamaam may sab he nungay hain everyone has crimes to cover and they all gang up and protect each other and loot! so reforms not possible without shedding blood!

 

[The Terminator]

boss from where youll get that leader?

every politicians is in bed with Wardi Mafia is hamaam may sab he nungay hain everyone has crimes to cover and they all gang up and protect each other and loot! so reforms not possible without shedding blood!

In present times its IK. A leader with Charisma to gather public around him, a person with clean past without any baggage of personal gains/corruption, a man to resonate with the religious ideology of the public as well, a leader of true integrity which can't be blackmailed or dictated. He has a family advantage too, with no kids here in Pakistan and shaky marital life so have nothing or very little to loose in his family's department too.

The only major attribute missing for the required job is the intent and have the balls of titanium to challenge the arguably the most powerful, deep rooted, well entrenched military establishment in the world (in domestic issues of course). Haven't seen any other country nuclear armed, huge forces to have that much deep rooted, the all powerful military establishment.

Anyone missing the characteristics of integrity or balls of titanium or have the lust for power grab for himself or fear of death and humiliation obviously can't pull of this miracle.

 

[Riz]

August 2023 are you kidding me?

she is right . finalized by badwa

 

[VCheng]

Say goodbye to Pakistan, establishment want to destroy it. They don’t care about Public. They only care about having power. They are in control since 1948,

Well if they are in control since 1948, then they are doing a good job of keeping Pakistan alive and going. You contradict yourself, obviously.

 

[The Terminator]

The only thing the military establishments fear the most is united and awaken masses of the public. That's their weakness that they can't blackmail or fight a untied and committed public which want a change in the system. If they would try to suppress public with too much iron fist, even then that system and status-quo starts to shake and crumble, which they can't afford to weaken or loose. Because they are the actual beneficiaries of that very system. So their biggest vulnerability is the untied and focussed public with clear mindset and a definite goal to achieve. That's the achilles heel of any corrupt system or the well entrenched status-quo including the military establishment as well

 

[coffee_cup]

Well if they are in control since 1948, then they are doing a good job of keeping Pakistan alive and going. You contradict yourself, obviously.

You change your positions more often than a baby changes diapers in a day. I guess it depends on who has the US support. A typical "whatever-USA-says-we-blindly-follow-and-do-not-question" supporter.

We have quite a few out there in Pakistan. No rules, no principles, nothing... just whatever the "lord US" says.

Carry on...