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Sputnik News - November 24, 2016

Bangladesh has purchased two diesel-electric submarines from China, sparking concerns in neighboring India. Is China attempting to encircle its southern neighbor?

India's eastern neighbor Bangladesh acquired two diesel-electric submarines from China on November 14. After they enter service in 2017, they will become the first and only submarines in the Bangladeshi navy.

The move has raised questions, since Bangladesh is surrounded by Indian territories on three sides, sharing only a fraction of its border with Myanmar on the East. Defense News has interviewed experts on this issue. Bangladesh currently has no territorial or maritime claims, after all such disputes with India and Myanmar were settled in 2012 and 2014, respectively. "It is difficult to fathom why Bangladesh, which does not encounter any conventional maritime-military threat, has inducted submarines in its navy," said Gurpreet Khurana, an Indian Navy captain and executive director of the National Maritime Foundation. The diesel-electric submarines, capable of carrying torpedoes and mines, are believed to be strictly offensive weaponry, but with a navy so small, Bangladesh is far from capable of withstanding any serious naval conflict with India. According to Indian experts, one possible explanation is an act of provocation against Indian maritime security. "Submarines are offensive weapons of sea denial and their only use would be to pose a threat in being for India and to complicate the latter's maritime security paradigm," said Arun Prakash, a retired Indian Navy admiral and former service chief.

Prakash also believes that the sale is a step in a long-standing Chinese policy of encircling India with client states who are dependent on China. Both India and China are significant weapon manufacturers, with India seeking to become one of the world's largest arms exporters, according to Bloomberg. Snatching regional markets from India is a logical act of competition.

"It is just a good, economical deal Dhaka could not pass up," said Bharat Karnad, a research professor at the India-based think tank Centre for Policy Research. The Bangladesh Navy has a long history of purchasing naval weaponry from China. But the procurement of the submarines is likely to raise tensions in the region, said Swaran Singh, a professor for diplomacy and disarmament at Jawaharlal Nehru University in India. "[The] transfer of submarines means major upgradation of [Bangladesh and China] defense cooperation and would contribute to South Asia becoming a far more contested space infested with new weapon systems," he said. New Delhi must make attempts to secure the Bangladeshi market for domestic weapons manufacturers, according to Defense News. Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar is currently visiting Bangladesh to "upgrade bilateral defense cooperation." Despite that the two countries have no territorial dispute, they are yet to sign a water-sharing agreement, a significant stumbling block for New Delhi. If suggestions about provocations and "sea denial" functions of the submarines are correct, negotiations are about to become tougher. "Bangladesh is our neighbor, and its strategic importance cannot be understated in any way. Such events as the purchase of submarines by Bangladesh greatly enhances the mistrust between the countries and steps must be taken to reduce this gap and prevent Bangladesh from playing the China card repeatedly," said Probal Ghosh, a senior fellow at the Observer Research Foundation, an organization dedicated to leading political and policy discussions in India.
 
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Like Bangladesh is buying for the first time from China...
Stop mental masturbation over & over again over same thing..

No, this piece of article was needed because your Joker Defence Minister is visiting BD to lure it away from China by offering shoddy India-made OPVs. BD is certain to refuse this Indian sweet. Indians should stop acting as if BD is in love with India. India has encircled BD with 54 dams on our rivers. Bd wants to break away from Indian hegemony. Now, BD is a strategic partner of China and its willing accomplice to be a part of string of pearls that encircle India.
 
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We do not care much for Bangladesh or its people lol
Yes, you may be right. But, your panicked politicians, social leaders and the Misnisters are rushing to BD to dissiuade it from buying weapons from China. I wonder how Indian govt. will react when BD materializes its Foces Goal 2030. No way, Bd will come out of the China orbit.
 
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Yes, you may be right. But, your panicked politicians, social leaders and the Misnisters are rushing to BD to dissiuade it from buying weapons from China. I wonder how Indian govt. will react when BD materializes its Foces Goal 2030. No way, Bd will come out of the China orbit.
I know right, we should be enemies, but some naive Bangladeshis want us to be friends, I don't know why. Apparently they think we liberated them out of "brotherhood" lol. Breaking up Pakistan in '71 was the best thing to happen to us, and now we have only one front to take care of.

Unlike Pakistan, Bangladesh has a very weak military and would be crushed by India within two months if they ever tried to encroach on our territory. So Bangladesh isn't that big a threat to us and an irrelevant "enemy" state. And truth be said we never really trusted Bangladeshis- people who couldn't remain true to their country when the enemy attacked them, instead joined hands with the enemy (lol), how could they possibly remain obliged to another country? A country of perpetual turncoats. I have more respect for Pakistanis than Bangladeshis- we don't care much for xenophobic people who are intolerant of other cultures and kill people because they speak Urdu.
 
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After they enter service in 2017, they will become the first and only submarines in the Bangladeshi navy.

Not for long....

"It is difficult to fathom why Bangladesh, which does not encounter any conventional maritime-military threat, has inducted submarines in its navy," said Gurpreet Khurana, an Indian Navy captain and executive director of the National Maritime Foundation.

"Submarines are offensive weapons of sea denial and their only use would be to pose a threat in being for India and to complicate the latter's maritime security paradigm," said Arun Prakash, a retired Indian Navy admiral and former service chief.

I think there is just 'much ado about nothing' in the Indian 'defense expert circles'. Do these 'experts' have *any* idea what a ming class sub is? These are late 80's obsolete diesel subs for training. They hardly pose a threat to any trawler fleets in India, which is going to have four SSBN's in no time (less than five years). Bay of Bengal belongs to Indian Navy, no question about that. However Bangladesh is in no position to throw away its naval defense readiness planning (which has included sub training for the last two decades), given its territorial interests (fishery, oil, gas) in the Bay of Bengal, on the whim of foreign govts.

Both India and China are significant weapon manufacturers, with India seeking to become one of the world's largest arms exporters

India's defense exports don't scale up much when compared to China's...

[Bangladesh and China] defense cooperation and would contribute to South Asia becoming a far more contested space infested with new weapon systems," he said.

That may be true, but all South Asian countries have to cooperate to prevent weapons proliferation, not just Bangladesh. Try starting with Western neighbor first.

"Bangladesh is our neighbor, and its strategic importance cannot be understated in any way. Such events as the purchase of submarines by Bangladesh greatly enhances the mistrust between the countries and steps must be taken to reduce this gap and prevent Bangladesh from playing the China card repeatedly," said Probal Ghosh, a senior fellow at the Observer Research Foundation, an organization dedicated to leading political and policy discussions in India.

So - this begs the question, Pakistan is not a neighbor? What of the mistrust there? Can India stop Pakistan from playing the China card?? What if any are the efforts has India made in that regard?

Pakistan is far bigger a threat (even now) to India with their sub fleet. If that doesn't bother India then why does Bangladesh?

I have a suspicion that these multiple spokespeople come from Indian think-tanks that are simply hard-line Hindutva hawks who are parroting RSS/BJP propaganda. Bangladesh defense circles are not exactly looking at Indian BJP/RSS circles to look for tips on how to defend Bangladesh.
 
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For irritating India ? :omghaha: Thats true.

We do not care much for Bangladesh or its people lol

But we care about that . any problem ?

Like Bangladesh is buying for the first time from China...
Stop mental masturbation over & over again over same thing..

Then why India is too much tensed?

Mental Masturbation ? He is pure diamond guys. :rofl:

Like Bangladesh is buying for the first time from China...
Stop mental masturbation over & over again over same thing..

Then why India is too much tensed?

Mental Masturbation ? He is pure diamond guys. :rofl:
 
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That is good. Actually BD has only one neighbor India with whom BD has no dispute in any area. Even if there is any dispute, BD can do nothing with these shitty weapons. Better BD spend this money for the welfare of her people. However that peculiar mindset will prevent them to do any sane thing. I will not surprise if BD start an enmity with India once Hasina goes because it is going to be radicalized very soon.
 
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Unlike Pakistan, Bangladesh has a very weak military and would be crushed by India within two months if they ever tried to encroach on our territory. So Bangladesh isn't that big a threat to us and an irrelevant "enemy" state. And truth be said we never really trusted Bangladeshis- people who couldn't remain true to their country when the enemy attacked them, instead joined hands with the enemy (lol), how could they possibly remain obliged to another country?

No, be sure that BD would not encroach indian territory in peace time. When the sweet NE apple ripens, it will fall on our laps. Note also that in western Assam is full of our people. It is same as Arakan.
 
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ruth be said we never really trusted Bangladeshis- people who couldn't remain true to their country when the enemy attacked them, instead joined hands with the enemy (lol), how could they possibly remain obliged to another country? A country of perpetual turncoats. I have more respect for Pakistanis than Bangladeshis- we don't care much for xenophobic people who are intolerant of other cultures and kill people because they speak Urdu.

For the very first time I agree with an Indian on Pdf. They are born traitors. Heard Indian Army also does not have any regiment for bengali traitors.Is it true ?
 
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No, be sure that BD would not encroach indian territory in peace time. When the sweet NE apple ripens, it will fall on our laps. Note also that in western Assam is full of our people. It is same as Arakan.
I mean seriously we think very little of Bangladesh and its military capabilities. Infact your BD government has flushed out all militant camps of ULFA and other NE separatist organizations from BD soil and sent over the captured militants to India. Thank you BD :enjoy: :cheers:

For the very first time I agree with an Indian on Pdf. They are born traitors. Heard Indian Army also does not have any regiment for bengali traitors.Is it true ?
Nope West Bengali Hindus are as patriotic as one can get. Infact our current chief of air staff Arup Raha is a Bengali Hindu. They aren't traitors and xenophobes like bangladeshis. Our Bengali Hindu brothers look down on xenophobic bangladeshi muslims. Ask @Rain Man @Skull and Bones our very own Bengali Hindus on this forum.
 
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