Its not a personal grudge. You judgement of who I am or not is meaningless to me. Its your opinion not my reality.
What it got to do with being petty.
This man Deino constantly declares what Pakistan can do or cannot do. Insults everyone. Belittles everyone. Makes fun of PAF as bunch of fools who don't know what they are doing.
Its his stereotypical characterization of Pakistan airforce that prompted my response. NOT my personal grudge. Trust me he has no idea how advanced PAF has become.
It was me who in this forum had a fight with a brother name mutakalim (I think that is his name) when several years ago I had a fight with him.
In that post (using a cousin's account here, who no longer comes here) I declared that pakistan can make 5th generation stealth aircraft and going to do it soon.
Mutakalim responded by saying:
We have now have people in Pakistan who believe in "vedic technology" of Pakistan like india.
(since at that time it was considered impossible for Pakistan to even think of making a stealth fighter).
I replied in anger and he deleted his post. I am sure he remembers that. ask him Then I deleted all my posts. By the way Mutakalim is a very sincere and good muslim. I learned that later and deeply respect him for it.
Anyway I disclosed that information even when PAF had not done that (but knew soon they will). That's all I would say.
Same way, now I interact with Pakistani colleges back home and am well aware pf Pakistani capabilities.
Pakistani is already at the cutting edge of stealth research.
Pakistani universities can synthesis and analyses arbitrary 3D structures with required radar absorbing characteristics (RAM coating) and have expertise in advanced composites with low observability characteristics. Just read this review by Pakistanis:
Methods and composite materials—A review
Where they review the most advanced research for stealth composites out there on the topic. it is very simple readable paper. That's why I chose to list it here. But for more advanced complex pakistani research just google "Pakistan electromagentic absorbtion composites" and
other terms.
Realize that lot of Pakistani papers don't have the keyword "Pakistan" in them. Spend sometime on the google.
Pakistani universities using
advanced chemistry are synthesizing whatever arbitrary RAM coating they need with whatever characteristics they seek. One just one such is Link below (I am listing the first one in google search)
Enhancement of electromagnetic waves absorption properties of CuFe2O4 magnetic nanoparticles embedded in ZnO matrix
You are welcome to google even more.
Yet people say we need to steal from Osama raid helicopter. WTH. When can synthesis arbitrary RAM coatings why we need to steal?
Even Pakistani universities have been analyzing and
synthesizing various nanocomposite (used in the latest F-35 versions) with required either electromagnetic or other desired characteristics for quite sometimes (a little googling with keywords such as nano-composites +Pakistan etc. will help).
Again note that not all research done by Pakistanis comes with keyword "Pakistan" in it.
There is so much research is coming out of Pakistan and Pakistanis students overseas that I can't be bothered to list it nor it is physically possible.
Also FOR GOD sake do realize that only few thousands Pakistani do their PhDs in Pakistan
but 10,000s' of then are studying for an advanced PhD overseas.
Even more for masters. In China alone there are now nearly 28,000 to 30,000 Pakistani students, roughly half of them doing a PhD or masters. In UK there are more than twice as many. I can't even count in the rest in of europe, Russia, South korea or japan or US.
PAF has access to the best of these high technology brains and always did.
Yet this man and his likes here keep making Pakistan look like some sahara nation in africa.
Even look at me. I am researching for my future aerospace and AI corporation in Pakistan using mathematics such as sheave-theoretic and curvature free complex valued differential geometric approaches that are mathematically so complex that an average person needs decades of work after PhD to truely become fluent in them. Yet I am only 32.
When he implies Pakistanis can't master complex and abstract mathematics or engineering,
it does not fit my mental model based on my own experiences. It does not make sense to me. What you want me to do, stay quiet.
There are Pakistanis who have mastery of things far beyond I can understand. Many of such people are employed by Pakistan military. That's why his view of pakistan doesn't make sense to me.
Pakistan has money problems otherwise Pakistan can do anything and everything. Off course we need more labs, research center but foundational capability already exists.
Pakistan was just few years, repeat just few years behind from NASA in developing full scale navier stokes equations solvers for complex configurations. The code was named PAK-3D. Now it has developed into extremely sophisticated CFD software in its own right capable of analyzing the most complex situation one can imagine.
In stealth related field Pakistan has done just as well. Both frequency domain and time-domain approaches were implemented in a scattering analysis software at NESCOM at bit less than a decade ago. The PAF is always ahead.
In United States for F-22 synthesis (and later F-35), a theory developed by Russian Physicist Pyotr Yakovlevich was used extensively (called Physical diffraction theory) along with time domain approaches for further analysis and verification. Their code had significant problems even in 1990s (can’t remember the source now but there is report by NASA I think that discusses it in great detail). That's how complex these things can be even for US due to so many technical problems (e.g. stability of numerical algorithms etc.) I will look for it in my free time and put it here when I will un-ban this forum.
Pakistan implemented all major
frequency domain approaches long ago.
Time domain high bandwidth approaches (Bandwidth depends on Space-time discretionary scheme used for example) were also implemented. The first approach was well same again that was done by US. Namely sophisticated codes involving Finite-difference time-domain approaches were developed enabling Pakistan to solve electromagnetic interactions for full scale aircraft/missile configurations. Later on some more advanced approaches were implemented. More high resolution capability based on latest advancement is available now in Pakistan including hybrid approaches (depends on how much computational power is at hand otherwise Pakistan can go as detailed as Pakistan likes). I would rather not discuss them.
I even recently had discussions with Pakistani colleagues involving joint computational aerodynamic and electrodynamics optimization framework that had added ability to deal with associated Magneto-hydrodynamics. Let’s just say that it involves extremely fast stealth missiles and highly maneuverable re-entry vehicles. I leave it here.
These things are at the edge of cutting edge beyond what these anti-Pakistani people can even understand.
PAF is way ahead of even NESCOM.
I am going to remove the post. My purpose has been achieved. He disappeared. Mean time I won't come here but I strongly believe that I was right to confront him.
You will all will come to know the truth of all this when Pakistan will flight test "an indigenous true 5th generation stealth aircraft". Already detailed component level analysis is ongoing. While people on this forum still debating we will need to buy things from China.
I am going to remove the original post. You could have asked respectfully rather then name calling. I hate that for some reason.
