Profile of Hafiz Gul Bahadur

[Zarvan]

yes, that is true even today. Its not only true in Pakistani deobandi madrasas, its also true of each and every tablighi gathering, like that of Maulana Tariq Jameel Sahib @Zarvan. It is also true of each and every deobandi madrassa in the west AND each and every tablighi gathering in the west.

However, the question is, how many support armed insurrection against the State of Pakistan and its army? That is, how many of them support TTP and Lal Masjid?

Having affinity with the Taliban type of model is not the same as having affinity with an armed insurrection against all other Pakistanis and their army. Do the overwhelming majority of these people have affinity with afghan type of Taliban or with TTP type of Taliban?



You are repeating the same confusion again. Because it suits you. Just because a village deobandi opened up a quran school for earning money at his home, and called it a "madrassah", doesn't mean the biased and generalizing "liberal" dominated western media should go berserk and repeat the same "fact" of "the majority of the madrassahs in Pakistan are deobandi", to such an extent that it becomes the truth and everyone starts to believe it. Its all full of half truths and realities. Its like the whole world believing Iraq is 60-65% shia, just because the west started it on the news, after Vali Nasr said it, and now the whole world seems to believe it, when if one goes to Iraq, one will find it far from reality!

The western media only aims to demonize and distort Islam and Muslim countries

You again showed your level of ignorance about Molana Tariq Jameel you have no idea about that man but you constantly lie about him

 

[Hyperion]

Deobandi schools spread nothing but hatred and terror........ they all need to be shut down throughout Pakistan......... once this is done, we can focus on Wahabi's that infest our lands.

No gathering of Mullah's should be allowed. These need to be outlawed, under capital punishment. Two mullah's talking to each other, should come under sedition charges. Simple as that.

Death to pseudo Mullah's. Bomb all "jamats".

yes, that is true even today. Its not only true in Pakistani deobandi madrasas, its also true of each and every tablighi gathering, like that of Maulana Tariq Jameel Sahib @Zarvan. It is also true of each and every deobandi madrassa in the west AND each and every tablighi gathering in the west.

However, the question is, how many support armed insurrection against the State of Pakistan and its army? That is, how many of them support TTP and Lal Masjid?

Having affinity with the Taliban type of model is not the same as having affinity with an armed insurrection against all other Pakistanis and their army. Do the overwhelming majority of these people have affinity with afghan type of Taliban or with TTP type of Taliban?



You are repeating the same confusion again. Because it suits you. Just because a village deobandi opened up a quran school for earning money at his home, and called it a "madrassah", doesn't mean the biased and generalizing "liberal" dominated western media should go berserk and repeat the same "fact" of "the majority of the madrassahs in Pakistan are deobandi", to such an extent that it becomes the truth and everyone starts to believe it. Its all full of half truths and realities. Its like the whole world believing Iraq is 60-65% shia, just because the west started it on the news, after Vali Nasr said it, and now the whole world seems to believe it, when if one goes to Iraq, one will find it far from reality!

The western media only aims to demonize and distort Islam and Muslim countries

 

[Multani]

Deobandi schools spread nothing but hatred and terror........ they all need to be shut down throughout Pakistan......... once this is done, we can focus on Wahabi's that infest our lands.

No gathering of Mullah's should be allowed. These need to be outlawed, under capital punishment. See two mullah's talking to each other, should come under sedition charges. Simple as that.

you don't want Muslims to gather at this place? @Pak-one

 

[Hyperion]

For the time being...... I want preaching outside the Mosque to be outlawed. We are 99% Muslims in Pakistan, so what are these pseudo Mullah's doing? Converting, showing light of religion to whom? No one! They are good for nothing jobless retards, involved in nothing but criminal activity. Pakistani's mostly have mental problems, they just like to discuss "better ways of preaching", yet, are most hated by Allah SWT. Look around you, have you ever seen a bearded man who exudes "Noor", NO! They all look like hounds of hell. Bloody dogs.

you don't want Muslims to gather at this place? @Pak-one

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

you don't want Muslims to gather at this place? @Pak-one

Mashallah

 

[Multani]

For the time being...... I want preaching outside the Mosque to be outlawed. We are 99% Muslims in Pakistan, so what are these pseudo Mullah's doing? Converting, showing light of religion to whom? No one! They are good for nothing jobless retards, involved in nothing but criminal activity. Pakistani's mostly have mental problems, they just like to discuss "better ways of preaching", yet, are most hated by Allah SWT. Look around you, have you ever seen a bearded man who exudes "Noor", NO! They all look like hounds of hell. Bloody dogs.

Then close down mosques and mausoleums, religious schools, and Islamic libraries of Pakistan [ which are more than 600 years old with ancient manuscripts going back to the times of Khawaj Ghareeb Nawaz Muinuddin Chishti Ajmeri RA ]

Geesu Daraz, his student hundreds of years later wrote 500 works on Islam PUBLICLY, not at home. He is the father of Urdu.

The bearded men are doing Zikr of Allah collectively. Our Prophet asked us to worship Allah collectively in a Masjid. Our Prophet SAWAS in his final sermon asked Muslims to gather collectively as a community at Mount Arafat.

 

[Pandora]

No offense but the only history we need to remember about him is the hole he will die in in and innocent people he killed before reaching to his pathetic end.

 

[Multani]

yet, are most hated by Allah SWT. Look around you, have you ever seen a bearded man who exudes "Noor", NO! They all look like hounds of hell. Bloody dogs.

Khawaja Zinda Peer of Kohat KPK

For the time being...... I want preaching outside the Mosque to be outlawed. .

this sounds not like Pakistan, but more like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, and Bahrain or Gaddafi's Libya

They control religion as such. All sermons are state produced and distributed in mosques. Imams are all state appointed.

 

[Hyperion]

More like Turkey, or maybe my version. Dude, you're a disturbed soul.

Khawaja Zinda Peer of Kohat KPK

this sounds more not like Pakistan, but more like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, and Bahrain or Gaddafi's Libya

They control religion as such. All sermons are state produced and distributed in mosques. Imams are all state appointed.

 

[Multani]

More like Turkey, or maybe my version. Dude, you're a disturbed soul.

Pakistanis will never accept an ata turk

 

[Hyperion]

Mullahs will not accept anyone. Leaders such as AtaTurk are from Allah to show the retards righteous path. Mostly by force.

Pakistanis will never accept an ata turk

 

[Bratva]

Mullahs will not accept anyone. Leaders such as AtaTurk are from Allah to show the retards righteous path. Mostly by force.

or Ataturk was azab for turks?

 

[waz]

Inshallah this will soon read as an obituary.

You again showed your level of ignorance about Molana Tariq Jameel you have no idea about that man but you constantly lie about him

As a Sufi myself, I agree bro. Malana Jameel (may Allah protect him) is a great man. He has gone out of his way to make peace between Deobandi and Barelivi Jammats.

 

[M. Sarmad]

You are repeating the same confusion again. Because it suits you. Just because a village deobandi opened up a quran school for earning money at his home, and called it a "madrassah", doesn't mean the biased and generalizing "liberal" dominated western media should go berserk and repeat the same "fact" of "the majority of the madrassahs in Pakistan are deobandi", to such an extent that it becomes the truth and everyone starts to believe it. Its all full of half truths and realities. Its like the whole world believing Iraq is 60-65% shia, just because the west started it on the news, after Vali Nasr said it, and now the whole world seems to believe it, when if one goes to Iraq, one will find it far from reality!
The western media only aims to demonize and distort Islam and Muslim countries

Western Media ???

And almost 70% of total Madrassahs in Pakistan are Deobandi Madrassahs (SPDC 2003)

Based in Karachi, Pakistan, the Social Policy and Development Centre (SPDC) is considered one of the pre-eminent economic policy research institutions in Pakistan and its services are much in demand by the government, civil society, academia, students and donors.

And here is what "The State of education Report, 2002-03" SPDC, 2003" states ( p.170) :

The number of registered madrassahs in 2002 is reported to be 9,880. Information on unregistered madrassahs is not available. The largest numbers of madrassahs, 7,000 or over 70 per cent, are under the Deobandi Wafaq-ul-Madaris, followed by nearly 1,600 madrassahs under the Barelvi Tanzim-ul-Madaris

http://www.spdc.org.pk/Publications/Annual Reviews/AR-5.pdf

However, the question is, how many support armed insurrection against the State of Pakistan and its army? That is, how many of them support TTP and Lal Masjid?

TTP has been waging war against the state of Pakistan since 2006/07 ... A 2010 survey showed that 82 % Madrassah students still saw the Taliban as a model for Islamizing Pakistan ... And you have somehow concluded that these madrassah students do not support armed insurrection against the state of Pakistan !!!

 

[Zarvan]

Western Media ???



Based in Karachi, Pakistan, the Social Policy and Development Centre (SPDC) is considered one of the pre-eminent economic policy research institutions in Pakistan and its services are much in demand by the government, civil society, academia, students and donors.

And here is what "The State of education Report, 2002-03" SPDC, 2003" states ( p.170) :

The number of registered madrassahs in 2002 is reported to be 9,880. Information on unregistered madrassahs is not available. The largest numbers of madrassahs, 7,000 or over 70 per cent, are under the Deobandi Wafaq-ul-Madaris, followed by nearly 1,600 madrassahs under the Barelvi Tanzim-ul-Madaris

http://www.spdc.org.pk/Publications/Annual Reviews/AR-5.pdf





TTP has been waging war against the state of Pakistan since 2006/07 ... A 2010 survey showed that 82 % Madrassah students still saw the Taliban as a model for Islamizing Pakistan ... And you have somehow concluded that these madrassah students do not support armed insurrection against the state of Pakistan !!!

Yes Sir most don't support sir you have some old bias of yours that is another problem other wise most Madrassas don't support any action against government

For the time being...... I want preaching outside the Mosque to be outlawed. We are 99% Muslims in Pakistan, so what are these pseudo Mullah's doing? Converting, showing light of religion to whom? No one! They are good for nothing jobless retards, involved in nothing but criminal activity. Pakistani's mostly have mental problems, they just like to discuss "better ways of preaching", yet, are most hated by Allah SWT. Look around you, have you ever seen a bearded man who exudes "Noor", NO! They all look like hounds of hell. Bloody dogs.

Mr if the person is so called Muslim that doesn't mean he doesn't need to be reminded of following Islam Mr its order of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and people give a dam about liberal Abu Juhals and what they think tableegh and preaching to every section of society will continue