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[rmi5]

I told you we don't get arms from Iran, what don't you get about that? And how did we get to this discussion? All Shia in Arab nations create trouble then cry sectarianism. This is their way of exercising control over Arab nations since they hate Muslims.

Bahrain does nothing to the Shia community, they should be thankful the state has tolerated their attacks on state property on policemen.

In Syria, the regime is Alawi and so is the whole staff which actually have any influence on state affairs. The regime attacks all cities which aren't alawi. So why aren't you guys crying sectarianism over there? If anything all of you supporting the crackdown.

Mullahs were previously giving you arms, like those Fajr-5 rockets.
Dude, your problem is that you are thinking that all shia people are the same and want to serve mullahs interests. Indeed, there are bunch of retards and mercenaries, but ordinary shia people, specially non-arab, or non-farsi ones, are not like what you think. BTW, alawis are not shia. Khomeini, RIH, was the only shia Marja, who considered them as shia, because of his political relations with Asshead family. But, first, khomeini was almost a no one in shia religious scholars, and second, no one else in shia Marja's have confirmed his non-senses, including this fetwa of him.

 

[Serpentine]

Where do you get this source? I'm not trusting any Iranian source or any Shia source. Probably is far from the truth. Let's find out the real reasons.

This is an attempted Shia take over of another Muslim Arab country. It's time to deport all of them to Iran where they belong.

How are they trying to 'take over' Bahrain when they are the majority in the country?

Since when will this sectarian hypocrisy go on? I told you in the past, just pray all Palestinians don't think like you, otherwise, good luck getting 1 inch back from Israel. Your home is under occupation and you are advocating ISIL-like policies in other countries.

Syria is a secular dictatorship and Bahrain is a monarchy dictatorship and I'm all for a free and fair election in both Syria and Bahrain, no matter if Shias win or Sunnis. In Syria, it's not a revolution anymore. As you see, all the secular moderate opposition have been sidelined and replaced by terrorists like Nusra and ISIL. If fighting is stopped in the country somehow, then a fair and free election with ALL parties involved will be the best choice.

 

[Falcon29]

Mullahs were previously giving you arms, like those Fajr-5 rockets.
Dude, your problem is that you are thinking that all shia people are the same and want to serve mullahs interests. Indeed, they are bunch of retards and mercenaries, but ordinary shia people, specially non-arab, or non-farsi ones, are not like what you think. BTW, alawis are not shia. Khomeini, RIH, was the only shia Marja, who considered them as shia, because of his political relations with Asshead family. But, first, khomeini was almost a no one in shia religious scholars, and second, no one else in shia Marja's have confirmed his non-senses, including this fetwa of him.

They were giving some arms but we needed a lot more. It's not as many as you think. More than 90% are made in Gaza or from elsewhere. Even if they keep giving some more now, it's about mutual interests. I will still be against extreme people come from Iraq, Iran and Lebanon.

You are right, many Shia don't support what's going on. A lot of those come from Lebanon. You're the only one here I've seen condemn the policy in Syria which I believe is really stupid. What do they hope to gain over that? Do you know how many people will dislike Iran now? Lot's of Arab people had praise for Iran and Hezbollah. We don't judge people for their beliefs. Only a minority of our extremists do. I just want to see more Iranian/Shia people here being reasonable about Syria.

I've also seen you on the Iran defence forum, they were bashing you left and right for disagreeing with them one bit. I've seen people there who are secular or atheist but still support the Syrian regime one hundred percent. And they're very sectarian. It's starting to bother me. Like this Iraqi kid here who's very extreme and holds everything against Sunni Muslims. I'm tired of this double standard they have.

I see them as an extreme twelver movement which are very sectarian. Even if they're' secular they're still sectarian. Not all Shia people, it's just unfortunate that almost all of them here support what's going on. For me, i don't hold a double standard. People here know how much I used to argue with other Arabs and how much I criticized our state of affairs.

How are they trying to 'take over' Bahrain when they are the majority in the country?

Since when will this sectarian hypocrisy go on? I told you in the past, just pray all Palestinians don't think like you, otherwise, good luck getting 1 inch back from Israel. Your home is under occupation and you are advocating ISIL-like policies in other countries.

Majority just like they were majority in Iraq over CIA numbers taken during the war, yeah sure.

I don't have sectarian hypocrisy, you guys are the most sectarian people as evident in the Syria thread. Most Shia extremists here hate every single Arab and even at one point hated the Palestinians since they refused to support the regime.

So what's next? Syria is Shia majority?

And how am I supporting 'ISIL-like' policy in another countries? To you guys the ISIL is soooo evil but the mass murderer and his supporters in Syria aren't. Give me a break. Soften your tone on issue like Syria and this wouldn't have to happen. But, no, you guys will go to the extreme and demonize Muslims in that thread to support the regime.

I'm a Muslim and can have an opinion on the whole word whether we're occupied or not. We don't need your advice on how to liberate our land, it's not an easy issue and it remains with God. However, all of our efforts have been done by us. We did the job to defend our people.

 

[Serpentine]

Majority just like they were majority in Iraq over CIA numbers taken during the war, yeah sure.
I don't have sectarian hypocrisy, you guys are the most sectarian people as evident in the Syria thread. Most Shia extremists here hate every single Arab and even at one point hated the Palestinians since they refused to support the regime.
So what's next? Syria is Shia majority?
And how am I supporting 'ISIL-like' policy in another countries? To you guys the ISIL is soooo evil but the mass murderer and his supporters in Syria aren't. Give me a break. Soften your tone on issue like Syria and this wouldn't have to happen. But, no, you guys will go to the extreme and demonize Muslims in that thread to support the regime.
I'm a Muslim and can have an opinion on the whole word whether we're occupied or not. We don't need your advice on how to liberate our land, it's not an easy issue and it remains with God. However, all of our efforts have been done by us. We did the job to defend our people.

Yes they are the majority in Bahrain, just like Iraq. But your problem is that you can't tolerate the reality.

I have no problem admitting that majority of Syria are Sunnis and I don't get to ridiculous conspiracy theories to prove otherwise.

When you say Shias are not the majority in Bahrain and they should be deported to Iran, then you are clearly saying what ISIL is saying, tbqh, I don't see any difference. How am I sectarian when I say in both Syria and Bahrain, people's vote should be counted? It's not important if Assad (or anyone who represents him) is elected until people have chosen him, the same as Bahrain. If people choose a Sunni as their leader in Bahrain in a free and fair election, then it would be totally justified and right.

 

[rmi5]

They were giving some arms but we needed a lot more. It's not as many as you think. More than 90% are made in Gaza or from elsewhere. Even if they keep giving some more now, it's about mutual interests. I will still be against extreme people come from Iraq, Iran and Lebanon.

You are right, many Shia don't support what's going on. A lot of those come from Lebanon. You're the only one here I've seen condemn the policy in Syria which I believe is really stupid. What do they hope to gain over that? Do you know how many people will dislike Iran now? Lot's of Arab people had praise for Iran and Hezbollah. We don't judge people for their beliefs. Only a minority of our extremists do. I just want to see more Iranian/Shia people here being reasonable about Syria.

I've also seen you on the Iran defence forum, they were bashing you left and right for disagreeing with them one bit. I've seen people there who are secular or atheist but still support the Syrian regime one hundred percent. And they're very sectarian. It's starting to bother me. Like this Iraqi kid here who's very extreme and holds everything against Sunni Muslims. I'm tired of this double standard they have.

I see them as an extreme twelver movement which are very sectarian. Even if they're' secular they're still sectarian. Not all Shia people, it's just unfortunate that almost all of them here support what's going on. For me, i don't hold a double standard. People here know how much I used to argue with other Arabs and how much I criticized our state of affairs.

The point is that these mullah goons of Iran are debunked harshly by the majority of Shia Marja's. I can bring you numerous examples. I am not personally a religious person, but I have been brought up next to conservative shiism, and I exactly know how these farsi mullah goons are seen negatively by shia people. some shia scholars even say that their ruling system, (velayat e Faqih) is a bed'at in Shia Islam and consider them as bunch of Khawarij, in which I clearly agree with it. Shia religion, specially the main stream that historically came from Azerbaijan, is inherently a conservative and almost secular sect, and building religion based government before Imam-Mahdi coming, is seen as haram, and a big sin. But, these uneducated Khomeini goon, and their ultra-stupid blind followers were inspired by other religious based political groups, and damaged shia islam religion. They, and their stupid followers who mostly come from farsi cities like Isfahan, Qom, and Najaf Abad, are bunch of goons who no nothing about shia Mazhab, and the modern world.
BTW, Alawis do not believe in 12 Imams, and they only care for Hazrat Ali. So, they are not shia
LOL, BTW, what are they saying on my back? it is almost a long time that I have not checked that retarded iranmilitaryforum website.

 

[1000]

The point is that these mullah goons of Iran are debunked harshly by the majority of Shia Marja's. I can bring you numerous examples. I am not personally a religious person, but I have been brought up next to conservative shiism, and I exactly know how these farsi mullah goons are seen negatively by shia people. some shia scholars even say that their ruling system, (velayat e Faqih) is a bed'at in Shia Islam and consider them as bunch of Khawarij, in which I clearly agree with it. Shia religion, specially the main stream that historically came from Azerbaijan, is inherently a conservative and almost secular sect, and building religion based government before Imam-Mahdi coming, is seen as haram, and a big sin. But, these uneducated Khomeini goon, and their ultra-stupid blind followers were inspired by other religious based political groups, and damaged shia islam religion. They, and their stupid followers who mostly come from farsi cities like Isfahan, Qom, and Najaf Abad, are bunch of goons who no nothing about shia Mazhab, and the modern world.
BTW, Alawis do not believe in 12 Imams, and they only care for Hazrat Ali. So, they are not shia
LOL, BTW, what are they saying on my back? it is almost a long time that I have not checked that retarded iranmilitaryforum website.

Your beliefs against the rulers of Iran are based on different reasons then Hazzy's.

Hazzy is the Sunni Akhoond version hating on the Shia Akhoond.

 

[rmi5]

Your beliefs against the rulers of Iran are based on different reasons then Hazzy's.

Hazzy is the Sunni Akhoond version hating on the Shia Akhoond.

So, does it matter as long as we agree with each other on something?

Yes they are the majority in Bahrain, just like Iraq. But your problem is that you can't tolerate the reality.

I have no problem admitting that majority of Syria are Sunnis and I don't get to ridiculous conspiracy theories to prove otherwise.

When you say Shias are not the majority in Bahrain and they should be deported to Iran, then you are clearly saying what ISIL is saying, tbqh, I don't see any difference. How am I sectarian when I say in both Syria and Bahrain, people's vote should be counted? It's not important if Assad (or anyone who represents him) is elected until people have chosen him, the same as Bahrain. If people choose a Sunni as their leader in Bahrain in a free and fair election, then it would be totally justified and right.

You are lying. If that's the case, why are you cheerleading for Assad regime? Has he been elected in a free election? does the majority support him? You are obviously intelligent enough to know the answer for these questions.

 

[Abii]

lol Hazzy is a grade A clown. The guy was born in the US and grew up there, but acts like Osama's cousin.

Dude, stfu. You're more American/Western than all of us here combined, but you try so hard to be a terrorist. Why, I have no idea.

 

[Falcon29]

Yes they are the majority in Bahrain, just like Iraq. But your problem is that you can't tolerate the reality.

I have no problem admitting that majority of Syria are Sunnis and I don't get to ridiculous conspiracy theories to prove otherwise.

When you say Shias are not the majority in Bahrain and they should be deported to Iran, then you are clearly saying what ISIL is saying, tbqh, I don't see any difference. How am I sectarian when I say in both Syria and Bahrain, people's vote should be counted? It's not important if Assad (or anyone who represents him) is elected until people have chosen him, the same as Bahrain. If people choose a Sunni as their leader in Bahrain in a free and fair election, then it would be totally justified and right.

Here you are being extreme about Syria again. Everybody knows about the Alawi regime in Syria and the joke of 'elections'. You implying that Syrian people are in a normal phase of elections is extremism since it's a state of a crackdown. With over a hundred thousand killed. The regime is not supported by the people but by one minority. The rigged elections are already proven to be rigged. Only a naive person(Which you aren't, rather deliberately preaching nonsense) believes that such a thing is reality.

I stand by what I said, Bahraini Shia who aren't loyal to the state and spread prostitution like this and curse Islam's figures can be deported to Iran.

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And for people who hate Muhammad(SAW):

"Anyone who curses my Companions has the curse of Allah on him, and of the angels, and of all people. Allah will not accept any exchange nor compensation from him."

"Allah chose my Companions over everything else in existence except for the Prophets and the Messengers. He chose four of them for me; Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman and 'Ali. He made them my best Companions, and all of my Companions are good."

"Whoever loves `Umar loves me. Whoever hates `Umar hates me."

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People who insist on making lies against the religion of Allah shouldn't be tolerated especially with so much evidence against their cult hatred.

That is my personal view and view of our Prophet(SAW), has nothing to do with Baathist ISIL.

The point is that these mullah goons of Iran are debunked harshly by the majority of Shia Marja's. I can bring you numerous examples. I am not personally a religious person, but I have been brought up next to conservative shiism, and I exactly know how these farsi mullah goons are seen negatively by shia people. some shia scholars even say that their ruling system, (velayat e Faqih) is a bed'at in Shia Islam and consider them as bunch of Khawarij, in which I clearly agree with it. Shia religion, specially the main stream that historically came from Azerbaijan, is inherently a conservative and almost secular sect, and building religion based government before Imam-Mahdi coming, is seen as haram, and a big sin. But, these uneducated Khomeini goon, and their ultra-stupid blind followers were inspired by other religious based political groups, and damaged shia islam religion. They, and their stupid followers who mostly come from farsi cities like Isfahan, Qom, and Najaf Abad, are bunch of goons who no nothing about shia Mazhab, and the modern world.
BTW, Alawis do not believe in 12 Imams, and they only care for Hazrat Ali. So, they are not shia
LOL, BTW, what are they saying on my back? it is almost a long time that I have not checked that retarded iranmilitaryforum website.

I was IP address permanently banned.

Your beliefs against the rulers of Iran are based on different reasons then Hazzy's.

Hazzy is the Sunni Akhoond version hating on the Shia Akhoond.

The Sunni what? Keep your words to yourself, if you don't consider yourself Arab stop associating yourself with Iraq.

 

[Serpentine]

You are lying. If that's the case, why are you cheerleading for Assad regime? Has he been elected in a free election? does the majority support him? You are obviously intelligent enough to know the answer for these questions.

Lol, why should I lie when almost every single member on this forum knows that now I support SAA against groups like Nusra, IF and ISIL? Before you came to this forum, I used to admire the 'legitimate' Syrian opposition, with its armed group named as FSA where its members truly wanted to bring democracy to Syria and I didn't support SAA like this in the beginning. Now where are they? What's their influence on the ground? Why do you think Assad managed to recruit 150,000 NDF forces when according to you, only a minority support him? That' because the groups are fighting with him now are much much worse than Assad regime. That's why citizens rush back to cities after it is taken back by SAA.

I never said the majority support him and despite what you (or others) believe, I don't care if Assad is replaced by someone else of the 'majority' chooses him. Why do you think so many people went to polling stations (not by numbers, there are thousands of pictures admitting it) to vote? Because they thought it's a totally free election? No they did it to show that they support Assad against groups that are much worse, even if they hate Assad himself. Just show me one single militant-held area now that has more freedom than Assad controlled cities or is better administered by them. When there is no better option, you get to stick to the bad option, not worst.

Here you are being extreme about Syria again. Everybody knows about the Alawi regime in Syria and the joke of 'elections'. You implying that Syrian people are in a normal phase of elections is extremism since it's a state of a crackdown. With over a hundred thousand killed. The regime is not supported by the people but by one minority. The rigged elections are already proven to be rigged. Only a naive person(Which you aren't, rather deliberately preaching nonsense) believes that such a thing is reality.
I stand by what I said, Bahraini Shia who aren't loyal to the state and spread prostitution like this and curse Islam's figures can be deported to Iran.

You have posted that video for like ten times now, so what? Believe, you don't want me to post some videos of militants you support in Syria to claim they represent you, it won't end very well. So let's not discuss it. Besides, at least those in the video are not blowing up anyone or killing anyone because of religion. I consider prostitution (Only because you think it is, doesn't mean it's true) much much better than someone beheading you or blowing you up for your religion/race.

These are the legitimate Bahraini citizens, and they are the majority, doesn't matter if you don't like some of their actions.

 

[rmi5]

I was IP address permanently banned.

So, you tasted a sip of mullah freedom of speech as well?

 

[Falcon29]

lol Hazzy is a grade A clown. The guy was born in the US and grew up there, but acts like Osama's cousin.

Dude, stfu. You're more American/Western than all of us here combined, but you try so hard to be a terrorist. Why, I have no idea.

Here comes the Arab and Muslim hater known as 'Abii', who tells he's secular and hates the Iranian government yet his views on Syria and the Arab world and towards sectarianism is no different.

You're an idiot if you think being born on a different piece of land has anything to do with someones views.

So, you tasted a sip of mullah freedom of speech as well?

And the wave of personal attacks when I slightly disagreed with them.

Lol, why should I lie when almost every single member on this forum knows that now I support SAA against groups like Nusra, IF and ISIL? Before you came to this forum, I used to admire the 'legitimate' Syrian opposition, with its armed group named as FSA where its members truly wanted to bring democracy to Syria and I didn't support SAA like this in the beginning. Now where are they? What's their influence on the ground? Why do you think Assad managed to recruit 150,000 NDF forces when according to you, only a minority support him? That' because the groups are fighting with him now are much much worse than Assad regime. That's why citizens rush back to cities after it is taken back by SAA.

I never said the majority support him and despite what you (or others) believe, I don't care if Assad is replaced by someone else of the 'majority' chooses him. Why do you think so many people went to polling stations (not by numbers, there are thousands of pictures admitting it) to vote? Because they thought it's a totally free election? No they did it to show that they support Assad against groups that are much worse, even if they hate Assad himself. Just show me one single militant-held area now that has more freedom than Assad controlled cities or is better administered by them. When there is no better option, you get to stick to the bad option, not worst.

You used to admire the Syrian opposition? Could you show me anything to support your claim? Stop making assertions right now that are foolish.

You're not giving us the real reasons for your support.

 

[rmi5]

Lol, why should I lie when almost every single member on this forum knows that now I support SAA against groups like Nusra, IF and ISIL? Before you came to this forum, I used to admire the 'legitimate' Syrian opposition, with its armed group named as FSA where its members truly wanted to bring democracy to Syria and I didn't support SAA like this in the beginning. Now where are they? What's their influence on the ground? Why do you think Assad managed to recruit 150,000 NDF forces when according to you, only a minority support him? That' because the groups are fighting with him now are much much worse than Assad regime. That's why citizens rush back to cities after it is taken back by SAA.

I never said the majority support him and despite what you (or others) believe, I don't care if Assad is replaced by someone else of the 'majority' chooses him. Why do you think so many people went to polling stations (not by numbers, there are thousands of pictures admitting it) to vote? Because they thought it's a totally free election? No they did it to show that they support Assad against groups that are much worse, even if they hate Assad himself. Just show me one single militant-held area now that has more freedom than Assad controlled cities or is better administered by them. When there is no better option, you get to stick to the bad option, not worst.

That is what called cheerleading and propagating Assad propaganda. BTW, what matters is your current opinion which is 100% supporting the dictator. I am 100% sure that you are smart enough to understand all of these so called Assad election and people participation is a hoax. Only an idiot like Mohsenam may think what assad says is truthful. So, do not reflect these cheap propaganda to me. You need to make up your mind. You are either believing in democracy and majority vote or not. if not, you should not complain about Bahrain, or the awful situation of Mullahstan, and if yes, you should sympathize with Syrian people not with the dracula dictator.

 

[Falcon29]

Your beliefs against the rulers of Iran are based on different reasons then Hazzy's.

Hazzy is the Sunni Akhoond version hating on the Shia Akhoond.

You don't know anything about my beliefs. So why are you even talking you Muslim hater? If you're not Arab don't associate yourself with Iraq.

I love how you out of all people cry 'sectarianism'. You think using your codeword for Muslims ie 'Wahabi/Takfiri' can make up for it. It's very evident that you're sectarian and whole so much disregard to people who follow the Prophet(SAW). It's just that you're more quiet about it than others.

 

[Serpentine]

You used to admire the Syrian opposition? Could you show me anything to support your claim? Stop making assertions right now that are foolish.

Good luck searching in my posts from 1.5-2 years ago in 2 previously closed Syrian threads. I don't have time to search in thousands of posts to prove this to you. Neither it matters if you believe it now, because I know what I believe in now and what I have believed in the past.

That is what called cheerleading and propagating Assad propaganda. BTW, what matters is your current opinion which is 100% supporting the dictator. I am 100% sure that you are smart enough to understand all of these so called Assad election and people participation is a hoax. Only an idiot like Mohsenam may think what assad says is truthful. So, do not reflect these cheap propaganda to me. You need to make up your mind. You are either believing in democracy and majority vote or not. if not, you should not complain about Bahrain, or the awful situation of Mullahstan, and if yes, you should sympathize with Syrian people not with the dracula dictator.

Again, where did I say Syrian election was free? There were no opposition figures among the candidates and many Syrians couldn't vote because of living either in rebel held areas or neighboring countries.

What you are saying is exactly like what U.S and Europe did in WWII, allying with USSR to defeat Nazi Germany, and it didn't matter what a monster USSR was (to their eyes of course). So yes, I do support SAA operations in Syria and at the same time, I do support legitimate and non-extremist Syrian opposition in their cause for democracy. But believe me, if current rebels (strongest groups) win the war, the only thing Syrians will never witness is democracy. Just look at Raqqa or areas controlled by Nusra. Not to mention that Assad hasn't even gone and they are slaughtering each other for land. I do believe in democracy and majority vote, both in Syria and Bahrain and Iran and every other place in this world. But as long as there is a fighting is going on, there will be no free and fair elections, this is obvious. What has been achieved except more and more death and destruction? You may choose to believe that right now, militants are better than Assad, but I don't believe in it, so let's agree to disagree.

Btw, here's Zahran Alloush, leader of Islamic front, that is being armed by KSA and other Arab countries and is considered 'moderate' compared to Nusra/ISIL. I don't have illusion and I know what he is saying.