Primary threat to Pak is from within, not India

[The Clarifier]

It seems whatever be the truth,Pakistani's just only want to believe that India is the only threat it is facing,and even how much astonishing is another factors,they will only keep themselves in believing this delusion every time

Nobody, not one Pakistani, believes that.

Don't be a trollan'

 

[Jade]

Is there an internal threat to Pakistan? Without a doubt, there is - what is this threat composed of? Murderous Utopians motivated by the articulation of Islam as a tool of politics and social control, they target civilians and security forces alike. What is the nature of threat? Primarily, one of an intense and unpopular insurgency with terrorism as it's main tactic.

Yet, is this the totality of the threat to the Pakistani nation and state? Indeed not, there is a larger, more dangerous threat to the Pakistani nation, it is the capability the Indian state has arrayed against it across the border - a massive capability composed of strike formations and aerial capability developed under the rubric of a doctrine known as "cold strike".

Indian friends and interlocutors, say their intentions are entirely friendly, yet we do not question our Indian friends intentions, it's the capability we take note of - indeed, were our Indian friends to match their capability with their intentions, these strike formations would be withdrawn and positioned such that there would be confidence the "cold start" doctrine has been assigned to history -- will our Indian friends do that??

We don't advise Pakistani readers to hold their breathe for the eventuality that the Indian will position these strike corps away from the Pakistani border. These offensive forces are designed to cause irreparable harm to the Pakistani nation and state, not just to it's territorial integrity but to it's very existence as a free nation.

That’s fine if you think that India is an existential and eternal threat to Pakistan…may I ask you the reason for this perception?

 

[shineonyoucrazydiamond]

R u sure about it,many times i had seen Pakistani's themselves quoting TOI as the source,definitely when their is anything bad about India.

Even this thread is posted by some foreigner not Indian.. Tell me what's the point in telling each other that you have this problem and they telling in return you have that...

That's very immature as we all know about us.. they know about themselves, out of hate we abuse each other.. How civilized is it?

 

[muse]

That’s fine if you think that India is an existential and eternal threat to Pakistan…may I ask you the reason for this perception?

Jade1982


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Indian army’s Corps XV, IX, XVI, X, XI, II and I plus the 3rd Armoured Division, 4th Rapid Division and 2nd Armoured Brigade plus air force stations at Jaisalmer, Utarlai and Bhuj, are arrayed against Pakistan border under the "cold start" doctrine - Indian friends say this doctrine is not operational - well, why not put substance into this stance by withdrawing and repositioning these offensive forces ???

 

[Areesh]

Well now the goras and Bharatis will tell us who is the biggest threat to our country. Lolzzz

Anyways every one has the right to give their opinion. It isn't necessary that we might listen to them also.

 

[Jade]

Jade1982


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They are not reasons...

 

[Moorkh]

these formations have been present at the said places for a very very long time. infact even before the cold start doctrine was even thought of.

their existence doesnt imply the cold start isnt dead.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Then why have the world's third largest military ? With some of the finest weaponry in the world. And why amass tanks and aircraft across the border against us with the intention of implementing "Cold Start" tactics incase of an armed conflict ?

Arre Kake,

what if another Kargil happens ?

what if you guys decide to do another operation gibraltar like in 1965 ?

what if there is another mumbai and India is compelled to respond ?

About the third largest military , what would you have done had you been the neighbour to a massive country with the largest military in the world and nukes as well which has a dispute with you and had defeated you in a war in the past ?

You would have done the same or probably even more .

Try to to honestly put yourself in our shoes , you will understand us .

However , nobody considers china or Pakistan as the biggest threats to India like Pakistan considers India.

 

[Icarus]

Arre Kake,

what if another Kargil happens ?

what if you guys decide to do another operation gibraltar like in 1965 ?

what if there is another mumbai and India is compelled to respond ?

About the third largest military , what would you have done had you been the neighbour to a massive country with the largest military in the world and nukes as well which has a dispute with you and had defeated you in a war in the past ?

You would have done the same or probably even more .

Try to to honestly put yourself in our shoes , you will understand us .

However , nobody considers china or Pakistan as the biggest threats to India like Pakistan considers India.

Likewise, we fear for another attempt at Azad Kashmir, another attempt at Gilgit-Baltistan, another attempt at Lahore, another attempt at Ran of Kutch and that is why we also maintain a large military presence. Now try to put yourself in our shoes, our enemy is 5 times larger than us(land wise), about 6 times larger than us in terms of population, a significant portion of the population about 47%(according to TOI and Jang combined survey) does not believe in friendship with Pakistan and is thus in military terms "Hostile", and our enemy has already used internal matters to break away half of our country(1971). Do you still believe we have insufficient reason to view India as a major threat ?

 

[Pagla Dashu]

Likewise, we fear for another attempt at Azad Kashmir, another attempt at Gilgit-Baltistan, another attempt at Lahore, another attempt at Ran of Kutch and that is why we also maintain a large military presence.

Thats called putting the cart before the horse.

Now try to put yourself in our shoes, our enemy is 5 times larger than us(land wise), about 6 times larger than us in terms of population, a significant portion of the population about 47%(according to TOI and Jang combined survey)...

China

...does not believe in friendship with Pakistan and is thus in military terms "Hostile", and our enemy has already used internal matters to break away half of our country(1971). Do you still believe we have insufficient reason to view India as a major threat ?

That is the carefully constructed perception that your leadership has built up so that it is convenient for them to get way with wasteful expenditure on Military.

 

[Pagla Dashu]

Indian army’s Corps XV, IX, XVI, X, XI, II and I plus the 3rd Armoured Division, 4th Rapid Division and 2nd Armoured Brigade plus air force stations at Jaisalmer, Utarlai and Bhuj, are arrayed against Pakistan border under the "cold start" doctrine - Indian friends say this doctrine is not operational - well, why not put substance into this stance by withdrawing and repositioning these offensive forces ???

A quick question, entirely out of curiosity. Where were these Strike Corps, Armoured Divisions etc. positioned before this Peter Pan of 'cold start' came into existence?

 

[Jade]

Likewise, we fear for another attempt at Azad Kashmir, another attempt at Gilgit-Baltistan, another attempt at Lahore, another attempt at Ran of Kutch and that is why we also maintain a large military presence. Now try to put yourself in our shoes, our enemy is 5 times larger than us(land wise), about 6 times larger than us in terms of population, a significant portion of the population about 47%(according to TOI and Jang combined survey) does not believe in friendship with Pakistan and is thus in military terms "Hostile", and our enemy has already used internal matters to break away half of our country(1971). Do you still believe we have insufficient reason to view India as a major threat ?

There is no denying that most Pakistanis view India as a threat…however, all that you listed are not reasons but consequences of that perceived threat.

Is it the Hindu-Muslim thing the reason for the perceived threat?

 

[Icarus]

That is the carefully constructed perception that your leadership has built up so that it is convenient for them to get way with wasteful expenditure on Military.

COULD HAVE FOOLED ME !!!

 

[Pagla Dashu]

COULD HAVE FOOLED ME !!!

How is that representative of GoI's official policies?

I guess you don't need me to fool you. You appear to be quite capable of that all by yourself.

 

[Icarus]

That is the carefully constructed perception that your leadership has built up so that it is convenient for them to get way with wasteful expenditure on Military.

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