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On December 5, a Chinese naval vessel tried to force a U.S. warship to stop in international waters in the latest instance of the growing Chinese tendency to flex their muscles. This incident comes hard on the heels of the already roiled situation in the East China Sea region where Beijing had declared a Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) on November 23, which included the Japanese-controlled, but disputed Senkaku islands, called Diayou, by the Chinese. Some alarming analysis suggests that the Chinese may not be above seeking a limited conflict in the region

Incident

According to US officials, the guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens, was confronted by Chinese warships in the South China Sea near Beijing's new aircraft carrier Liaoning. What appears to have happened is that the US ship had been deputed to tail the Liaoning, which had been carrying out maneuvers in the East China Sea as part of Beijing's effort to brow beat Japan over the Senkaku/Diayou islands.

A Chinese navy vessel hailed the Cowpens and ordered it to stop. The ship refused and continued on its course because it was in international waters. Thereupon a Chinese tank-landing ship came directly on the path of Cowpens and stopped, forcing the American vessel to sharply change course.

The incident took place about 100 nautical miles from the Chinese coast. China's Exclusive Economic Zone, which has been defined under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS) goes out 200 nautical miles into the sea. The US has not ratified UNCLOS, which China, Japan, India and most of the world have, but it says that it generally observes its rules. As part of these it insists on the unfettered movement of not just its merchant marine, but warships, in the EEZ. However, China has strongly opposed this interpretation noting that naval vessels' military aircraft by definition do not undertake "innocent passage." The Chinese have bridled at US intelligence and surveillance ships that keep track of Chinese maritime activity. US intelligence gathering ships like the USNS Impeccable and Victorious have faced Chinese harassment regularly over the past few years.

In this instance, there are some who believe that the Chinese may have deliberately staged the incident as part of a larger strategy against Japan and the US. Two days after the Chinese announced their new ADIZ, the US had sent two unarmed B-52 bombers to fly through the zone. However, it has advised its civilian aircraft to observe the ADIZ and give prior notification of any flights they plan through the ADIZ

Strategy

The Japanese have declared that they will not recognise the ADIZ and for their part, the Chinese have in recent days sent in their Su-30 and J-11 fighters, along with their KJ-2000 AWACS aircraft to show that they intend to monitor the airspace they have declared as part of their ADIZ.

In 1981, when Deng Xiaoping began China's opening to the world, he also enjoined the Chinese to follow what is called the 24 character strategy in its foreign and security policies: "Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capabilities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership."

Conversations with Chinese think tank officials reveal a certain candidness about Beijing's changed global posture which, of course, has implications for India. They say that the era of the 24 character strategy are over. Indeed, they acknowledge that, as of 2012, they have become more assertive.

Interests
However, observers say that the shift began at least five years before that in 2008 when the Chinese government ordered its marine service to begin patrolling the maritime areas claimed by China. In 2009, it asserted its expansive South China Sea claims when it submitted a map to the UN along with the U-shaped Nine Dash line that comes down to the coast of Brunei. In 2011, a Chinese ship cut the cable of a seismic survey ship. In 2012, it created a new administrative zone around the city of Sansha to have jurisdiction over the Spratly and Paracel islands. This was also the year when the Chinese issued a new passport with the map including the ridiculous Nine Dash claim.

The Chinese say that their interests in the East China sea are what bother them the most because of their proximity to the Chinese heartland. South China Sea, they insist is not a problem area of the same dimension. Beijing's unambiguous goal is to isolate Japan, divide the ASEAN and befuddle the United States. The tough stance on the Senkaku/Diayou are part of this, and the recent tour of the ASEAN by Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang showed the extent to which the Chinese are willing to go to befriend the region, minus the Philippines. Even that old and formidable adversary Vietnam is being wooed by Beijing.

As for the United States, its stand on supporting the regional nations is less than clear. It insists that it is neutral when it comes to the maritime disputes, but maintains that it will stand by its treaty allies like Japan and the Philippines in the event of a conflict. The developments in East China Sea have important implications for India because we, too, have a major border dispute with China and we have also seen a shift in Beijing's border management policy since 2008. China has been quick to say that its ADIZ only has implications for its maritime borders, but who is to say that such a maneuver could not be attempted against us?

Actually, what China is doing in the East China Sea is what it did in the Himalayas in 1962: Create and, indeed, push "facts on the ground" which compel the other side to back off, or undertake a confrontation which could lead to war. India handled things badly then; hopefully the Japanese and the Americans will be more deft.

Prepare for war in East China Sea : Manoj Joshi, News - India Today
 
Why you always think about China and Pakistan? Spreading false news about both countries like they are going to invade indian in 2018 or 2020 etc.
 
Actually, what China is doing in the East China Sea is what it did in the Himalayas in 1962: Create and, indeed, push "facts on the ground" which compel the other side to back off, or undertake a confrontation which could lead to war. India handled things badly then; hopefully the Japanese and the Americans will be more deft.

Prepare for war in East China Sea : Manoj Joshi, News - India Today


Have you read CIA account of 1962? Have you heard about the Henderson report? 50 yrs on, wonder why your govt refused to release it to public?

Typical junk indian article.
 
Have you read CIA account of 1962? Have you heard about the Henderson report? 50 yrs on, wonder why your govt refused to release it to public?

Typical junk indian article.

The guy hates Chinese because Chinese don't belong to his race. Thats it. He is supposed to hate Chinese and this was how his DNA was programmed. He has to seek complete annihilation of Chinese and it is his task, he must perform. Everything has been programmed.
 
Why you always think about China and Pakistan? Spreading false news about both countries like they are going to invade indian in 2018 or 2020 etc.
Apparently your happy horse wagon is always empty whenever you are ready to take it for a ride. Your Allies always make a mockery out of every time you try any adventure.
 
The guy hates Chinese because Chinese don't belong to his race. Thats it. He is supposed to hate Chinese and this was how his DNA was programmed. He has to seek complete annihilation of Chinese and it is his task, he must perform. Everything has been programmed.

If we catch him, we will lobotomized him and re-code his DNA.
 
If we catch him, we will lobotomized him and re-code his DNA.
Don't worry Nationalist Party is coming to power so plenty of DNA is going to be collected from unrecognizable corpses. Fatty Acids are usually found in large quantity among women body anyway, are you trying to say you don't have hangovers because of your fatty blood cells.?

Who's that ugly boy in your picture then.?
 
If we catch him, we will lobotomized him and re-code his DNA.
Hahaha.....
I have a question. You have a good grasp of English. I do not think you're from China. Were you educated in the West?
 
If we catch him, we will lobotomized him and re-code his DNA.

I believe, with so far my research on DNAs of various human races, that that DNA is supposed to be a hostile. I can guarantee, if you study other guys who look similar to him, would definitely be found hostiles by default. Actually, when someone hates something, his hatred makes an imprint on his DNA and his children would carry that DNA embedded with hatred. This is why hatred is inherited through successive generations. Germans might have wanted to do an elaborate research on it and why one should identify someone else as hostile even if he does not act like one.
 
One Indian thread after another falsely portraying Chinese as ther perpetrator, when it was the U.S. aggressor ship sailing into the Chinese ships operating with long announced schedule in the East China Sea and trying to endanger and provoke lawfully operating Chinese vessels in international waters.

Where is the international law that says Chinese must pave way and let U.S. run into their ships in international waters and freedom of movement means to act however they want and Chinese ship must bow down to every whim and move of theirs? There is none.

U.S. bully ships are unnecessarily provocing other nations. China is not at fault when U.S. is running into Chinese ships in international waters.

Same hypocrisy as the ADZ. All nations can unilaterally put up miles of ADZ reaching all over Chinese islands almost into Chinese blue water and when China sets up a small ADZ along their coast and over their own islands its an outrage. U.S. is not the law and deciding what is order and right.
 
Hahaha.....
I have a question. You have a good grasp of English. I do not think you're from China. Were you educated in the West?

He is well educated, otherwise, he would not have been familiar with that word.
 
Don't worry Nationalist Party is coming to power so plenty of DNA is going to be collected from unrecognizable corpses. Fatty Acids are usually found in large quantity among women body anyway, are you trying to say you don't have hangovers because of your fatty blood cells.?

The largest present day DNA collection was reported at Ganges river especially during stampede party festival. Fatty acids, docosahexaenoic and Eicosapentaenoic are found only in fishes, except those in Ganges which are made up of nucleic acid from decomposition. PISA test is important.

Hahaha.....
I have a question. You have a good grasp of English. I do not think you're from China. Were you educated in the West?

My english is just average. East and West :)
 
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The largest present day DNA collection was reported at Ganges river especially during stampede party festival. Fatty acids, docosahexaenoic and Eicosapentaenoic are found only in fishes, except those in Ganges which are made up of nucleic acid from decomposition. PISA test is important.

OMG!
 
Have you read CIA account of 1962? Have you heard about the Henderson report? 50 yrs on, wonder why your govt refused to release it to public?

Typical junk indian article.

None of the countries in the world support the nonsense of "Tibet is an independent country" in 1962, not in the past, let alone nowadays. This article is unbelievably stupid, we can see that some shameless people are upset about China has maintained its territorial integrity because they are too useless (Ottoman, Mughal...). They really try so hard to defame the others for no good reason to make themselves look good and make people sick with the smell of jealousy and shameless from them.
 
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