Post of the day

[S.U.R.B.]

Simply the best. Especially the last part.

Here we go again.

An air war will be about deployment of all assets in a cohesive strategy to balance out ones weaknesses with ones strengths.

If SU-30 is the only big bad wolf barring F-22 in the whole wide world, then surely Indian needs to roll out more of these since they are manufactured in-house.
Why give your money to USA and not spend it on your own industry?

It is a foolish notion that Pakistan has no answer to IAF, our answer is the PAF. PAF is fully capable to hold its own against IAF via force multipliers and modernization programs which it has been carrying out.

PAF is going towards improved operational efficiency and flexibility in order to be more cost effective and still pack a good punch.
Its aim is not to dominate the Indian Skies 24/7 but rather to deny air superiority to IAF.
However despite its numerical inferiority, PAF has always managed to carry out lightning strikes within Indian Airspace, nothing suggests that this shall not be done in future if war breaks out, especially the anti radiation missiles shall be put to good use...that much is certain.

There are many things which PAF has been working on.
Networking, Advanced air to air missiles, anti radiation missiles, AEW&C, mid air refueling, low maintenance aircraft, high availability of all assets during war etc.

Now SU-30 is a very capable aircraft but no real war scenario has been encountered.
It is not a stealth fighter, so technically it shall not only be seen by PAF but fired at with all the advanced missiles at its disposal which are good enough to bring it down.

The war shall not be one on one duels where snazzy cobra maneuvers shall defy death time and again...it shall be nasty and ugly with extremely lethal missiles making life miserable for the pilots.
AEW&C support shall make it even more difficult to overcome the enemy on both sides.
Lets hope it does not come to that.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/1202415-post758.html

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Looks like this thread is gonna get full of Mastan Khan's quotes.

Post of the day for me.

Gentlemen,

Men and women of each country are made, designed and maufactured for each other. There are exceptions as well----.


You people have no clue about the character and integrity of the american women. Their tenacity, perseverence and sustenance is on a different pleateau.

You want to judge women of a nation---then look at the character of the men of that nation---we are what our mothers wanted us to be---our mothers used to be girls one time as well.

My pakistani colleagues would understand what I am saying.

The bold part is the crux of the story for me.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/1248809-post144.html

 

[Hyde]

Hi,

It is as strange a comment that I have read in awhile on this board or otherwise.

Trust me it is a setup and for our own security---conventionally---indian army doesnot have the numbers and material and gumption to take us out in an all out war---it will be a stalemate with india suffering massive losses as well---and in order to save face in front of the world---it would possibly be india who would make the first strike ie nuc strike---.

My good man---we like and respect our visitors---but don't dwell on the thought that you could----if you could have---you would have taken us out in 2002----and if you had the gumption---you for sure wuld have done it after 11/26---.

It is about time that you realized that even we are about half the size of your millitary---you can't do diddly to us---.

If it wasn't for our airforce---we would have taken some stronger measures against you---our air force has f----d us up for a longtime---now they are on the right track---.

I don't know if you understand something---my troops are going through active war at this time----they are facing the pakistani taliban and al qaeda fulltime---they are combat ready---same with the airforce---pilots are in active war missions---pakistani millitary is on active war footings---.

So---please let us not be insulting to each other---let us not talk about INSECURITY.

 

[Hyde]

Hi,

Sir, when I talk to my countrymen, it is on a different level---I am trying to bring out an awakening---.

I am a firm believer of the fact that---IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SUCCEED---YOU OUGHT TO FEAR THE CHALLENGE---that makes you prepare and get ready for the inevitable in a better manner.

Secondly---our strikes forces were never defencive in nature, in manner, in style or in mindset.

Pakistan could possibly last a full scale war as long as india----the reasoning---during the kargil affair---the indian army ran out of ammunition.

The next war is not going to be fought by the millitaries alone on pakistan's side----but deep in the indian cities as well---.

Mumbai has shown us that indian security forces are extremely incompetent and inept and barely have enough weapons and transportation to move inside the country at will. Their outdated weaponery will hold them back.

This time---all the insurgent groups will be out amass and at full strike capabilities to bring down the indian cities to a standstill---.

Remember---this war will be fought in the heartland of hindustan---at hindustan's electronic hubs and not alone on pakistani soil---.

Even though many a times I have torn apart my pakistani compatriates for wanting war---and acting without fear---and I will keep doing that as long I am here on this board---it does not mean that the indian army has a free hand.

We didnot ask for mumbai to happen----let me assure you of that---but the reaction that came out of the mumbai attack has opened up new venues in case there is another war between india and pakistan.

Le stop here momentarily.

 

[Salik]

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^ thanks Zaki saab... please give the link of the thread as well to get the full 'picture' of debate... thanks again.

 

[Hyde]

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^ thanks Zaki saab... please give the link of the thread as well to get the full 'picture' of debate... thanks again.

see the arrow next to MastanKhan's name.... click on that arrow and you will go to the original post in its relevant thread

For example in this post you can see the RIGHT ARROW/Button after your name

 

[Salik]

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^ Thanks... that's great...

 

[salman77]

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Yesterday an indian minister said tht Pakistan was not involved in recent peaceful protests against illegal indian occupation....... and during those protests more then 120 people were killed by indian forces!

More then more or less then 100,000 Kashmiris have been murdered or missing since 1947....... mass graves have been found! mass rape of more then 10,000 kashmir women has been reported.... aswell as serious human right violation have been recorded by Human rights commision and other Human right activists and agencies!


If u want to pretend u see nothing thts ur choice.