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Political party affiliated suspect makes 'significant revelations' in Amjad Sabri murder case: polic

We know everything but we don't take measures

Why just we can't ban mqm

Without any doubt MQM again starting drama bazi of guerilla urban war in Karachi it's time army send clear message to MQM if any one kill or any bad thing happen to khi without any investigation we will make you example

It's now or never
They wanted Army to intervene so they could frame this whole scenario as a state sponsored genocide like what some other people claimed that in our eastern wing. Army is playing smart not to interfere. We need to use our other machinery.

We need to mark things which are favoring them. And need to get rid of them one by one. Going all out against mqm will make them look innocent and victim and us as an oppressors
 
Please someone give me one logical reason why MQM would kill him and bring all the attention and ire of people against them?

Don't quote me if all you have are emotional rants.

I have spent considerable time with MQM ethnic people and there is one thing i can say with confidence...these people are unpredictable and can turn the gun against anyone anytime..and they are specially adapt at killing their own people for sympathetic gains...the closer you are to them..the stronger the chances of you getting killed or back stabbed...i have been burned several time..
 
They wanted Army to intervene so they could frame this whole scenario as a state sponsored genocide like what some other people claimed that in our eastern wing. Army is playing smart not to interfere. We need to use our other machinery.

We need to mark things which are favoring them. And need to get rid of them one by one. Going all out against mqm will make them look innocent and victim and us as an oppressors
But we need to do it a little faster way we can't let them kill more Sabrina like guys
 
But we need to do it a little faster way we can't let them kill more Sabrina like guys

I dont know much about these stuffs but heck we all know the things which are done in haste always goes wrong. We need to be smart, we need to tackle each and every things which is in their favor and against peace. MQM people are not all evil there are many people in their ranks who are good and have no ill intentions. They are patriotic but at the same time they holds no weight and the ones who are in the driving seat are the one who are sitting in the high ranks, we all know that. And karachi is suffering not just because of mqm but other political groups as well. I am no einstien in these things but it seems logical to me.

This scenario is quiet complicated on other hand the operation of zarb e azb was straight forward we knew who were our enemies and most importantly we had the support of our public. But here things are not that simple, we just cant label mqm as anti state outfits and get themselves side lined other wise Altaf will starts to play a mahajir card just to drag all people of karachi into it. Our enemies are also watching us curiously, even our single mistake will be used against us.

We need to take one step at a time. We should make the political dynamics of the karachi bipolar by bringing other parties in karachi or forming new local parties. We should mend our electoral institutions too. They should not let anyone rig the elections so people of karachi will choose what they pleases. But question is who will be the one who will going to mend our electoral system? The very same politicians who benefited from this trash electoral system?

And another thing we need to do is to make our media unbiased. I have seen so many times how our media is trying to make us perceive that this operation is not fair. And above all we all have accused army of interfering into politics but why do we remain silent when politicians do the same by interfering into the areas where they dont belong. In simple our politicians should let our Law enforcment agencies do their work.

And May Allah forbid, but i think such activities will go on, this time around famous people will be their target.
 
Amjad Sabri was gunned down in Liaquatabad area...Isnt it enough to point out who did it?

Few days ago there was seize of Farooq Sattar house..until we dont start taking out MQM leader ship one by one...in retaliation..the target killing will not end..Farooq Sattar for Amjad Sabri revenge..we need populist uprising against MQM in karachi..which is playing the game of carrot and stick with Karachi population...
 
Few days ago there was seize of Farooq Sattar house..until we dont start taking out MQM leader ship one by one...in retaliation..the target killing will not end..Farooq Sattar for Amjad Sabri revenge..we need populist uprising against MQM in karachi..which is playing the game of carrot and stick with Karachi population...

In my humble view "thanda kar k khao" strategy is the one which ensure long lasting affects. As the 92 operation only resulted in massive retaliation and MQM guys fleeing to hostile countries and we then saw the resurgence of MQM with more might and strong support from masses. People out there should avoid pitching any group like Haqiqi against MQM as it would backfire in the end. Current strategy of breaking them piece by piece is though asking for patience but is rewarding in the long run. If U take out even one of their key member (which i suspect wud be ordered by bhai himself very soon), would only result in gathering of support for MQM. A very recent example of aftermath of death of a Farooq Bhai's guy in Rangers' custody in more than a proof of it.
 
In my humble view "thanda kar k khao" strategy is the one which ensure long lasting affects. As the 92 operation only resulted in massive retaliation and MQM guys fleeing to hostile countries and we then saw the resurgence of MQM with more might and strong support from masses. People out there should avoid pitching any group like Haqiqi against MQM as it would backfire in the end. Current strategy of breaking them piece by piece is though asking for patience but is rewarding in the long run. If U take out even one of their key member (which i suspect wud be ordered by bhai himself very soon), would only result in gathering of support for MQM. A very recent example of aftermath of death of a Farooq Bhai's guy in Rangers' custody in more than a proof of it.
This victim card is also facilitated by our media. Dont you think we should do something about this biased media before taking any action against target killers. Even if they kills their own workers they may not be able to get that much of hype for their dirty sympathy game.
 
This victim card is also facilitated by our media. Dont you think we should do something about this biased media before taking any action against target killers. Even if they kills their own workers they may not be able to get that much of hype for their dirty sympathy game.

U are very right. But when likes of Jew Tv are being financed and protected by sitting govt then it becomes a lil difficult to reign in the rogues out there. But when i compare the reporting few years back with reporting now, I find quite a difference and improvement out there. I would love to quote Mr Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto on what he said to Mir Khalil regarding his media house but that language used wud be against norms of this distinguished forum. In short he told him that U are like the individual who are for sale and wud go and do anything for highest bidder. As its all about money so if U tackle the financial part well, U can very well reign such entities.
 
U are very right. But when likes of Jew Tv are being financed and protected by sitting govt then it becomes a lil difficult to reign in the rogues out there. But when i compare the reporting few years back with reporting now, I find quite a difference and improvement out there. I would love to quote Mr Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto on what he said to Mir Khalil regarding his media house but that language used wud be against norms of this distinguished forum. In short he told him that U are like the individual who are for sale and wud go and do anything for highest bidder. As its all about money so if U tackle the financial part well, U can very well reign such entities.
Yes sir i totally concur with your statement, we should also keep one thing in mind that these are the private media they value their money more than our national interest. So you are right about these money greedy entities. These finances from the government can be cut down if we put the political pressure at government. Like one we witnessed in past but the ban on that channel didnt last long.

The best thing to do, according to me is that we should tackle political issues with political people, violence with force and this media game with the media itself. If anti pakistan entities are financing media then we should do the same by neutralizing it by bringing more media outlets. The more un biased channels we have the lesser our counterparts influence will be.

For bringing peace in karachi we not only need force but also media, and public support and etc.
 
If MQM is involved then its well past time to go Naseerullah BABUR on their A**, extermination of that terrorist entity. Peace to be preserved at all cost.
 
I have spent considerable time with MQM ethnic people and there is one thing i can say with confidence...these people are unpredictable and can turn the gun against anyone anytime..and they are specially adapt at killing their own people for sympathetic gains...the closer you are to them..the stronger the chances of you getting killed or back stabbed...i have been burned several time..

We shall see.

Come on you are smart guy, its not that hard to figure out why? Cant you see the rangers have failed to bring peace in the city. And that MQM was right all along that rangers will never be able to bring peace in city. If any average pakistani was assassinated instead of this respectable and famous personality, will that average persons murder be discussed in the forum and in the media? Lots of people die of terrorism, why mqm dont go to their funeral too, why their murders not discussed in media?

And if this incidence was carried out by terrorists, then why just the karachi?

Just join the dots you will get the clear picture, dont see just one incidence

You are right, I can't join the dots. People can blame whoever they want. MQM gets blamed for all the problems in the city, while everyone, including our genius policy makers, are left off the hook. It's a good dead horse to beat to hide the state's incompetence, keep beating it. :rolleyes:
 
Simply wow! Look at the hatred they have against one political party. Without any proof or evidence lets just hope on pull the trigger and fire. On the other hand the issue of Ayyan ali, panama leaks and what not being ignored. The biggest thugs in pakistan are pmln and ppp and their supporters. Oh well who am I to tell to indigenous people of pakistan.
 
Even if MQM did it this rhetoric have become like that "Sheer aya wali story" no one will beleive it and punjabi kids are going to hate it .. aur zindagi aisay hi guzarti rahey gi
 
You are right, I can't join the dots. People can blame whoever they want. MQM gets blamed for all the problems in the city, while everyone, including our genius policy makers, are left off the hook. It's a good dead horse to beat to hide the state's incompetence, keep beating it. :rolleyes:
Then sir what is the solution to this crisis?
 

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