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PML-N rejects ECP decision of Hasan Askari as Punjab Caretaker CM

Have you people ever supported Nawaz Sharif ? Nope,you people would rather support zardari as he is from your tribe.Even Vali Nasr has admitted that vast majority of Pakistani shia vote bank goes to PPP. Enough Said


Now sir,It's not.We can't even decide our foreign policy.We can't publicly support Syrian Sunnis. Whereas Shia Iran can openly support their sect in Syria.
It is very clear and open, for the last 10 years foreign policy is run by Pak army. Because both PPP and PMLn failed to provide any comprehensive foreign policy to the nation. All your COAS visiting foreign countries . Check the record.

I'm sorry for your loss.i condemn all sort of violence against anyone.


I know US is called land of opportunists for a reason but my point was about Political clout. Where WASPs dominate.It's very tough for a catholic to become President.
I dont see religion play any role in US politics. Only national interest comes first, rest all is temporary .
 
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I think majority support PTI.
i wish if it is true although i no longer support PTI. You people need to understand that you will be lot safer under a sunni leader at the top.You know Malik Ishaq was killed under Nawaz Govt.Your Zardari was not able do anything against him when he was in power. PPP will only toe the Iranian line they will never be able to protect you even if they want to ,for the fear of being seen as too sectarian. When shia vote overwhelmingly for PPP it naturally generate the fear of domination by minority sect and it pushes the hard core sunnis to vote for one of their own.In nutshell supporting sunni leaders is in your own interest.Learn from the Jews , They did not support a Jewish candidate in 2000 US elections.Because they realized that he will have to take a hard stance on Israel to ensure the people that he is not partisan.

It is very clear and open, for the last 10 years foreign policy is run by Pak army. Because both PPP and PMLn failed to provide any comprehensive foreign policy to the nation. All your COAS visiting foreign countries . Check the record.
Sorry I did not make myself clear.i'm specifically talking about our policy on Syria.Had there been no strong shia lobby in Pakistan.I'm 100% sure we would have supported Sunni opposition in Syria.But because of you people we can't do that.
 
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i wish if it is true although i no longer support PTI. You people need to understand that you will lot safer under a sunni leader at the top.You know Malik Ishaq was killed under Nawaz Govt.You Zardari was not able do anything against when he was in power. PPP will only toe the Iranian line they will never be able to protect you even if they want to ,for the fear pf being seen as too sectarian. When shia vote overwhelmingly for PPP it naturally generate the fear of domination by minority sect and it pushes the hard core sunnis to vote for one of their own.In nutshell supporting sunni leaders is in your own interest.Learn from the Jews , They did support a Jewish candidate in 2000 US elections.Because they realized that he will have take a hard stance on Israel to ensure the people that he is not partisan.
Pakistan is democratic country and Punjab makes the ruling govt. PPP has no future, after Benazir its all gone. In Punjab Shia don t vote Zaradri, in Karachi Shia don t vote Zardari . In Baluchistan shia don t vot Zaradari. PPP gain seats from Sindh rural area. Pakistani shia are least religious. But PPP is reality, its not religious party. It is secular party. PMLn has largely gain vote from religious groups in last election .
 
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i wish if it is true although i no longer support PTI. You people need to understand that you will be lot safer under a sunni leader at the top.You know Malik Ishaq was killed under Nawaz Govt.Your Zardari was not able do anything against him when he was in power. PPP will only toe the Iranian line they will never be able to protect you even if they want to ,for the fear of being seen as too sectarian. When shia vote overwhelmingly for PPP it naturally generate the fear of domination by minority sect and it pushes the hard core sunnis to vote for one of their own.In nutshell supporting sunni leaders is in your own interest.Learn from the Jews , They did not support a Jewish candidate in 2000 US elections.Because they realized that he will have to take a hard stance on Israel to ensure the people that he is not partisan.


Sorry I did not make myself clear.i'm specifically talking about our policy on Syria.Had there been no strong shia lobby in Pakistan.I'm 100% sure we would have supported Sunni opposition in Syria.But because of you people we can't do that.
Pakistan don t need to support anyone. First fix the house and then think about others. Whole middle east is burning. Pak army and nation already learn lesson from Afghan war and still suffering. Pakistan army has decided during the Raheel time, that Pakistan army will only serve under UN. Not on the demand of any country.
 
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a little correction Jews DID NOT support jewish candidate in 2000 us election*
 
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Then how come there has never been a catholic president since JFK ?
No one care , about the religious affiliation of any President. Everyone look at the track record in the office he previously worked and his honesty . That s it . After all Obama was black president and most successful President in US history. People still love him. JFK,Carter, Reagan all are remembered for there good work .
 
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Pak army and nation already learn lesson from Afghan war and still suffering.
Well if this is due to our lesson from Afghan war then it is good.But I believe this is due to pressure from your sect which is unacceptable.
 
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Well if this is due to our lesson from Afghan war then it is good.But I believe this is due to pressure from your sect which is unacceptable.
No sect, doesn t play role in national security issues. Now you can see another Manzor Pashteen emerge from nowhere...talk about Pashtun land and denying Durand line.
 
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I think majority support PTI. I don t know about Sindh. Nawaz known to have connection with extremist religious group. But , now according to him he is nazaryati ... i don t know what does it mean. Wait and see.

Iam yet to get my hands on a bag stuffed with $$$ and a porche to ride the streets and alleys as promised by one of my shia friends, it was supposed to be a birthday present . Shias getting filthy rich over here in my village also . Just last week a shia family managed to get thier hands on a fridge, I overheard em saying that they gonna freeze d.u grenades for the winter season.
 
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So you blame Sunnis for fighting to liberate their country from minority sect ? Pakistani Shia hated Saddam Hussain for ruling a shia majority country and now the same people support Bashar Al Assad.Isn't that hypocrisy ? Even the bhutto family had good relation with Assad family due to sectarian reason. You see all this talk of secularism coming from them is BS.Yeh ch****** bana rahe hai sunni awam ko. During the reign of PPP out govt had clear tilt towards Syrian govt.This is completely outrageous.The govt of Sunni majority country supporting their sect in Syria is the clear example of the political clout that this sect has managed to create. Did you read the article I quoted in my previous post. It shows our shia diplomat in UNO are so embolden that they ignored the instructions of govt and abstained voting against Syrian regime. If Sunni diplomat had done the same thing i.e supporting Saudi Arabia on Yemen. In logon ne aasman sar par utha lena tha.
But is Syria better off than it was?

May be not all but....
They are fanatics, organized, armed and trained by IRGC.
They run hate classes and hate parades in Pakistan openly.
They flag their houses, cars and wear attire which is all sectarian.
Credit to Zardari.... when on govt. or private job, there mission is to fill that company /dpt. with people loyal to Iran and eventual take over.
In general elections, they vote ONLY PPP, which is busy taking revenge of false history from Sindh, Pakistan... as we speak.
The moment they are out of the Pakistani boundaries, their best friends are Indians and their worst enemies are Pakistanis.
While in Pakistan they try all in their means to dictate Pakistan and Pakistanis. They gang up when ever Iran order them, their mission is to weaken, malign and hurt Pakistan. They harass common Pakistani, accuse him, abuse him, and no one would come to help. When in street, they can kill any one openly, and would even record that killing for their own masters. Pakistan police stay away or some times provide security cordon, while they are busy in vandalizing, killing, burning, destruction.
They have ZERO tolerance for sect. less Muslims.
You might have seen their brutally, when they were killing children of Rawalpindi Mosque.
They can destroy public property, block roads, carry sectarian banners, pagan rituals in front of your children and may even term it Islam /revolution /nia Pakistan... but you can't do diddly.
They have reduced Pakistan to a satellite state of Iran, where every person term Pakistan as an enemy state.
ALL of them go to Iran and Iraq for militancy training, over and over again, yet no security agency dare to ask a single question, when they cross border. One must wonder... why than immigration ask questions to rest of us!
In Pakistan some invisible foreign power is arming them, which they hide under ground for the forthcoming revolution which they are cooking.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1268193
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Well then the majority ought to get organized...and those Shia who are more loyal to Iran than Pakistan, ought to lose their governmental jobs...
 
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If need be, then yes. America does this for it's minorities. Iran does it from it's Jews.

Minorities need to feel that they are part of our country and we must show them that we are loyal to them.
What absolute nonsense!
First of all what America does is not always the best way. They also allow men to marry other men.
Second, are these minorities religious minorities or ethnic minorities?


If these sect minorities are Pakistani, then they are Pakistani. To give them disproportionate representation is unjust. If they want more representation, what they should do is make more babies...this what the Ahmadis hated the most, after the Second Amendment, the loss of disproportionate political representation...now from the Constitutional point of view they can only have proportionate political representation (and of course certain positions are not open to them)

Usually minorities ought to show they are loyal to the majority....

And you talk of Iran and her Jews but you fail to talk of Iran and her Sunnis...how come??

Perhaps you should compare the status of Iranian Sunnis in Iran vs Pakistani Shias in Pakistan from the State perspective and see who is better off...??
I am sure you are aware Pakistan has had many Shias as Presidents and Prime Ministers, how many Sunnis have been leaders in Iran? (I know they only make up about 10% of the population).

As per article 115 of the Iranian Constitution, a candidate for President must, amongst other things, have:
"convinced belief in the fundamental principles of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the official madhhab of the country."

http://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/ir00000_.html

And the official Madhab of Iran is Twelver Shia.

Can you imagine if Pakistan had in her Constitution that the President or Prime Minister could only be from the Sunni Schools???Can you imagine this!?
 
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But is Syria better off than it was?
Obviously it's worse. Assad could not have survived without Hezbollah and Iranian support.And to a larger extent we sunnis are ourselves to blame for the current plight of Syrians.Had the ISIL focused solely on Assad and not on murdering Yazidis and other minorities ,Syria would have been free from Assad.But no they had to poke their finger in western countries too i.e massacres in Paris and Brussels which effectively turned the entire western military might against ISIL. and now thanks to their stupidity they have thrown a new life line to Assad.Now this khanzeer can kill any Sunni in Syria in the name of fighting ISIL. However , Alawaites are the only minority regime in Muslim world apart from tiny Bahrain.The era of minority regimes subduing majorities is over. He has just bought off some time . May be a decade at best . With the reformation in Saudia we Sunnis have a chance to show our western allies that we are not fanatics and that we can be liberal . We have to ensure the support of our powerful western allies especially America. Shias don't stand a chance against us if Sunnis are united and have a good image in the west. We are 90 % of the Muslim world buddy.This shows that we Sunnis historically were rulers. Shia ruled for 2 centuries In Egypt but then again we defeated them and reconquered it.We Sunnis were so good at maintaining our rule in Muslim world that we lost Iran to Shia only in 15th century before that it was sunni majority country although a significant shia minority was always there .BUT,BUT with the defeat in Syria our Sunni ancestors must be turning in graves.It is such a shame that we are taking a beat from 10 % minority sect. It's time to get our shit together.
P.S The purpose of my long khutba is that we should take lesson from our ancestors who were very good at politics.
 
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