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PML-N beats PTI in NA-162 by-election

Ask yourself these questions

How many Bi Elections did PML-N win between 2002 and 2008 when PML-Q had both Federal and Provnicial Governments? Zero

How many Bi Elections did PML-N win between 2008 and 2013 when PPP had Federal Government? Barely any, PPP won more than 90% of the by elections in Punjab.

During By Elections, people generally tend to vote for the Sitting Government because they know they will get no development funds if they vote for the Opposition Party. What happened to that 2.5 Billion Rupees package for Lodhran that Nawaz Sharif announced? The mere fact that PTI came even this close is an achievement itself. Keep in mind during By Elections, voter turnout is low, and SHO's, Patwari's, DPO's, DCO's and Education Department alone are competent enough to generate 15-20 thousand votes for the Sitting Government candidate. So PML-N candidates started with a lead of 20 000 votes.

The reason why PML-N is loosing track is simple, their lack of governance. Just look at the economy, police, corruption, unemployment, inflation, foreign policy. You name it, in every indicator we are going down thanks to the incompetence of PML-N. Corruption is legalized where the PM is free to commit corruption as he pleases.

Sir, i was saying the same thing to @Danish saleem and make him understand the reality. :D


NA-172 DG Khan General Election 2013, PML-N Candidate Hafiz Abdul Kareem secured 49142 against PTI Candidate Zartaj Gul Akhwand who only secured 38383 votes. Leghari got 39361 votes.

What if an election is held today with the same Pti candidate in NA-172 ? :D I think PTI will gain more votes.
 
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I am a die-hard PTI fan, but i don't think that PTI will win. The reason being that these goons have their people in all the right places that can manipulate the voters-list or even the results. Against these odds it will be hard to win for PTI
 
Some Past Results of By elections 2016 and vote differences;

1. NA-101 Wazirabad,
Justice (R) Iftikhar Ahmed Cheema (PML-N) 82887 votes; M.Ahmed Chatha (PTI) 81218 votes. Margin:- 1669

2. NA-63 Jhelum;
Raja Matloob Mehdi (PML-N) 82890 votes; Fawad Chaudhry (PTI) 74819 votes. Margin:- 8071

3. PP-232 Vehari;

Yousaf Kaselia (PML-N) 51323 votes: Ayesha Nazir Jutt (PTI) 50267 votes. Margin:- 1056

General Election 2013 Comparison;

1. Let start with NA-63 Jhelum , in 2013 General Election PML-N Candidate Malik Iqbal Mehdi Khan got 116013 votes while PTI Candidate Mirza Saeed Mehmood Baig was able to secure only 42805 votes. Interesting Fact is Fawad Chaudhry was also participating in this election, he secured 34072 votes.

2. Now let see NA-101 Wazirabad, in 2013 General Election PML-N same Candidate Iftikhar Ahmed Cheema got a massive victory over PTI candidate, he secured 99191 votes while PTI candidate Choudhary Muhammad Shahnawaz Cheema got only 11704 votes. Interesting Fact is Muhammad Ahmad Chatha was also participating in this election, he got 59878 votes.

3. Now lets go to PP-232 Vehari, in 2013 General Election Chaudhary Muhammad Yousaf Kaselia as an IND Candidate secured 50260 votes against PML-N Candidate Peer Ghulam Mohy Ud Din Chishti who got only 43665 votes and lost the election. PTI Candidate Rana Muhammad Muzaffar was able to get 2284 votes.

You can see after this Comparison PTI has Gained Huge Amount of Votes in these Districts of Punjab. PTI voters and Supporters don't worry, Insha Allah PTI will win 2018 General Election.

You are comparing Apples and Potatoes. This is by elections and per my understanding, the voter count was about 55% estimated, compared to the general elections. This is how it goes in any country. Plus remember, per the laws, the elected leaders can't do campaigning so this benefits the other side by default.

In 2018, the same regime will remain in the government. From the surveys I've ready, they are going to win 30% (estimated) more vote and seats from all across Pakistan.
 
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In 2018, the same regime will remain in the government. From the surveys I've ready, they are going to win 30% (estimated) more vote and seats from all across Pakistan.

If the same sluggish regime continue then Pakistan is doomed. They will take loan after loan and Doom Pakistani Economy until IMF come take our Nuclear bombs away. For what achievements they will get 30% more votes ?

What the difference in Vote Count Noon League is getting same amount of votes as the past 2013 General Election in By-Elections while PTI is gaining new voters everyday.
 
If the same sluggish regime continue then Pakistan is doomed. They will take loan after loan and Doom Pakistani Economy until IMF come take our Nuclear bombs away. For what achievements they will get 30% more votes ?

What the difference in Vote Count Noon League is getting same amount of votes as the General Election in By-Elections while PTI is gaining new voters everyday.

Some wise man said, don't argue with stupidity. They will bring you down to their level and will beat you with more stupidity. I try to follow that saying.

When a nation doesn't pay taxes, steals taxes for 70 years, gets their country close to bankruptcy and there is no hope left.....what do you do? You need someone with credibility in the world to jump start the economy, create jobs, infrastructure and pans for growth. How do you dig a country out of bankruptcy and towards growth, specially if NO ONE wants to give you a dime due to 70 years of known corruption with money given by bigger countries? You HAVE to take loans so you can start to build out a plan and associated infrastructure. That is why you have loans.

The loans that are give to Pakistan since Zardari left, don't go into the government's or personal accounts. They get disbursed right at the project level. In other words, the ADB and the WB, now pay for the project cost. They bypass the government of Pakistan all together for transparency purposes. They wire the money and their auditor then check on every dollar to make sure it was spent for the project the money was sent for. Trust me, with the amounts of haters against this government, if there was ONE real fact established that the loans were going to people's checking accounts, it would've hit the SC and the news long time ago.

There have been millions of jobs created as the infrastructure gets build out, that means more tax payers, better income for millions of people and better spending, meaning better growth in the overall economy, meaning more taxes and other things for the federal government, so the loans can be paid back. The US, China, India, all do this and went through this.
 
I am a die-hard PTI fan, but i don't think that PTI will win. The reason being that these goons have their people in all the right places that can manipulate the voters-list or even the results. Against these odds it will be hard to win for PTI

They did NRO with Pervaz Musharraf in 2007 that why they won the 2013 election. While Pervaz Musharraf conditions were not to get Court trail on Benazir Bhutto murder and get out of the country safely.

Let me make it clear their will be no NRO this time. Any New General will show these status quo parties his BOOT.

Some wise man said, don't argue with stupidity. They will bring you down to their level and will beat you with more stupidity. I try to follow that saying.

When a nation doesn't pay taxes, steals taxes for 70 years, gets their country close to bankruptcy and there is no hope left.....what do you do? You need someone with credibility in the world to jump start the economy, create jobs, infrastructure and pans for growth. How do you dig a country out of bankruptcy and towards growth, specially if NO ONE wants to give you a dime due to 70 years of known corruption with money given by bigger countries? You HAVE to take loans so you can start to build out a plan and associated infrastructure. That is why you have loans.

The loans that are give to Pakistan since Zardari left, don't go into the government's or personal accounts. They get disbursed right at the project level. In other words, the ADB and the WB, now pay for the project cost. They bypass the government of Pakistan all together for transparency purposes. They wire the money and their auditor then check on every dollar to make sure it was spent for the project the money was sent for. Trust me, with the amounts of haters against this government, if there was ONE real fact established that the loans were going to people's checking accounts, it would've hit the SC and the news long time ago.

There have been millions of jobs created as the infrastructure gets build out, that means more tax payers, better income for millions of people and better spending, meaning better growth in the overall economy, meaning more taxes and other things for the federal government, so the loans can be paid back. The US, China, India, all do this and went through this.

First of all your from India , why are you getting into Pakistani Politics ? :hitwall:
 
In recent by elections almost results are close no doubt PMLN have benefit to use state machinery which effect the the vote strength, 2018 election PTI will be more bigger chalange for PMLN.
 
In recent by elections almost results are close no doubt PMLN have benefit to use state machinery which effect the the vote strength, 2018 election PTI will be more bigger chalange for PMLN.
Insha Allah PTI will win and Dream of Pakistan Becoming an Asian Tiger(Economic wise) will become true. Imran Khan and his team are hard working People. Look how much determine Imran Khan is on Panama Leaks and chasing Nawaz Sharif everywhere. :butcher: :partay:
 
They did NRO with Pervaz Musharraf in 2007 that why they won the 2013 election. While Pervaz Musharraf conditions were not to get Court trail on Benazir Bhutto murder and get out of the country safely.

Let me make it clear their will be no NRO this time. Any New General will show these status quo parties his BOOT.

Well Musharraf was long gone before the 2013 elections, so i don't think that was the reason. As for NRO, the supreme court had annulled the NRO and still PPP was in power and PMLN contested the elections and won in 2013. I agree with you there might not be any new NRO, but the old NRO is still in place or else all these NRO politicians would have been in jail
 
This is impossible. PTI doesn't lose, there must be rigging going on.

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First of all your from India , why are you getting into Pakistani Politics ? :hitwall:

I am a global citizen, from India, Pakistan, the US, the Vietnam, Nepal, Singapore, etc, etc.....a citizen of the planet Earth. Now can I please get into a meaningful discussion? I don't like Modi, so I'd resort to Pakistani politics :enjoy: :lol:. If you support Kashmiri's right to self determination, than you should also support my right to self-political involvement in discussions...its only fair that way right?
 
If the same sluggish regime continue then Pakistan is doomed. They will take loan after loan and Doom Pakistani Economy until IMF come take our Nuclear bombs away. For what achievements they will get 30% more votes ?

What the difference in Vote Count Noon League is getting same amount of votes as the past 2013 General Election in By-Elections while PTI is gaining new voters everyday.
Yes doomed, nuked and fucked up. Please get over this bullshit. In next election, for good reasons, no one will have any excuse of being a newbie. Time's running short as marches and dharnas wouldn't count as performance.

This is impossible. PTI doesn't lose, there must be rigging going on.

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Rai faimly has always been winning from this constitutency. Their loss is a lesson. After PPP effectively abandoning Punjab, a fair majority of Political heavyweights are expected to jump over to PTI. PML-N will have the liberty of making the pick however, those left out will have no reason but to go to PTI rather than PPP since PTI will be the second strongest electoral ticket. So there is every reason to believe that in next GE, anti-Nawaz votebank would converge under PTI's banner. So expect them to gain votes, however, would that be sufficient enough? I don't think so. In next election, by the looks of it, PML-N may effectively clean sweep Punjab except from places like RYK where PPP still remains strong and may bag some unexpected seats from Karachi as well. PTI will remain confined thanks to JI,QWP not allowing her expansion in their areas and Fazlu being supported by the Centre via development spending. Sindh and Balochistan have not even been touched by PTI for political expansion. Most of the Powerplay candidates in Balochistan would also like to go along PML-N because of expected power in the Center. Politically, PTI will either stay to the same size or more likely contract a little making KPK government formation again interesting.

Insha Allah PTI will win and Dream of Pakistan Becoming an Asian Tiger(Economic wise) will become true. Imran Khan and his team are hard working People. Look how much determine Imran Khan is on Panama Leaks and chasing Nawaz Sharif everywhere. :butcher: :partay:
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Yes working hard to borrow from World bank for desperate completion of their own brand of "Useless" Metro Buses. :D
 
Yes doomed, nuked and fucked up. Please get over this bullshit. In next election, for good reasons, no one will have any excuse of being a newbie. Time's running short as marches and dharnas wouldn't count as performance.


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Yes working hard to borrow from World bank for desperate completion of their own brand of "Useless" Metro Buses. :D
Will Pakistan's economy survive the maturity of $50bn in debt this year?

Update: Feb 16, 2016 – In the Bloomberg report, calculations of Pakistan's total foreign debt ($120bn) and total budget for 2015-16 ($13tr) are incorrect due to which their assertions are questionable.

Despite improvement in the country's security situation and the economy growing at an eight-year high, Pakistan risks default as 42 percent of its foreign debt, around $50 billion, is due in 2016, reports Bloomberg.

Around $30 billion is due between July and September, of which $8.3 billion will need to be in foreign currency, depleting 40pc of the nation’s $21 billion in foreign-exchange holdings. But a major part of the debt due is in local currency, which leaves the government with room to introduce more short-term instruments to leverage its current liabilities.

“Pakistan’s high level of public debt, with a large portion financed through short-term instruments, does make the sovereign’s ability to meet their financing needs more sensitive to market conditions,” Mervyn Tang, lead analyst for Pakistan at Fitch Ratings Ltd., told Bloomberg.

In 2013, a $6.6 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) was used to make payments for previous outstanding loans and avoid a Greece-like crisis. Since then, the projected debt due by end-2016 has grown by 79%.

At Rs13 trillion ($124 billion), 77% of the budget is already allocated for loan repayments this year.

A concurrent challenge is meeting IMF demands to privatize state-owned concerns, as witnessed by the strike at Pakistan International Airlines, which ended only last week.

November 2015 saw new taxes worth Rs 40 billion to meet the fiscal deficit.

In a Feb 1 statement, the Finance Ministry emphasized that Pakistan is committed to successfully implementing its IMF macroeconomic stability program, while the IMF is confident; mission chief Harald Finger said there is a “quite good” chance of implementing the guidelines provided.

Despite the grim outlook, experts are optimistic. According to Fitch’s Tang, Pakistan’s external liabilities are “relatively modest,” foreign-currency reserves have risen, the IMF is ready to help meet maturing loans and Chinese investment in an economic corridor is on its way.

“Improving growth prospects, lower inflation and smaller budget deficit should help to underpin investor confidence, particularly the domestic investor base,” Tang said.

Other risks include further capital flight and currency outflows, as well as devaluation of the rupee and fluctuations in the exchange rate. According to the IMF, the rupee is already overvalued at the current rate by as much as 20%.

Mustafa Pasha, head of investments at Lakson Investments Ltd, which manages $200 million of stocks and bonds, told Bloomberg investors should expect volatility in bonds and pressure on the rupee this year.

Although the decrease in oil prices has helped, the future remains unclear.

Rs40bn additional tax measures soon to meet fiscal deficit: IMF

ISLAMABAD / WASHINGTON: Amid rising circular debt and revenue shortfall, the government plans to introduce additional tax measures of around Rs40 billion in a couple of weeks to meet the fiscal deficit limit and carry on with the IMF programme.

This was stated by International Monetary Fund’s mission chief to Pakistan Harald Finger at a news briefing on Friday. He was assisted by Daniela Gressani, the IMF deputy director for the Middle East and Central Asia and resident representative to Pakistan Tokhir Mirzoev.

The IMF mission also had a rare session with the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Revenue against the backdrop of the panel’s resistance to let tax-related cases covered by the anti-money laundering / counter terror financing laws.

Mr Finger said Pakistan faced Rs40bn revenue shortfall in the first quarter. “We worked out with authorities the strategy to meet fiscal deficit target and the government will take measures of that amount to bridge the gap.”

Responding to questions, he said the government had to finalise the measures in a few weeks. He agreed with a questioner that these additional measures had now become “prior action” before going into the next quarterly review.

He said the question of an increase in power tariff was not discussed but confirmed that the circular debt had gone up to Rs661bn, including payable stocks of Rs326bn and Rs335bn parked consistently with the power holding company.

The IMF had previously put the debt at about Rs615bn, including payable stocks at Rs280bn.

The mission chief, however, said the authorities had met the quarterly target on power sector’s recoveries.

Responding to a question on Pakistan’s exchange rate, Mr Finger said that based on the IMF model Pakistan’s real exchange rate was overvalued to the extent of 5 to 20 per cent depending on different scenarios.

He said some recent gains in large-scale manufacturing, pick-up in construction activities, decline in international oil prices, the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and better foreign remittances were signs of improved economic activity but generally the investment climate had a long way to go as private sector credit had not gained momentum.

He did not agree with a perception that the government had built foreign exchange reserves through foreign borrowings and said lower oil prices had provided a cushion to the authorities to build reserves through market operations.

He, however, agreed that sustainability of the reserves had some structural challenges because of exports and global conditions.

IMF resident representative Mr Mirzoev said the fund’s global methodology recognised the government’s expenditures and revenue numbers in the fiscal deficit and the circular debt amount could not be considered a part of deficit unless they actually get transferred to the budget.

Asked if IMF loans could lead to Pakistan’s external vulnerabilities and compromise on its nuclear assets, Mr Finger said there was absolutely no link between Pakistan’s nuclear programme and IMF programme. In fact, he added, the IMF loans were resulting in reduced debt-to-GDP ratio and increasing foreign exchange reserves that would enable the country to absorb shocks and reduce its vulnerabilities.

A statement issued by the IMF headquarters in Washington said that Pakistan’s real GDP would grow by about 4.5 percent in fiscal year 2015-16.

“Economic activity continues to improve while challenges remain.”

But the IMF warned that the slowdown in private credit growth and weakness in exports and imports were “weighing on growth prospects.”

It noted that Pakistan’s gross international reserves reached $15.2bn by end-September 2015, up from $13.5bn at end-June 2015 and covering close to four months of prospective imports. The IMF said the country had also met the end-September 2015 quantitative performance criteria on the State of Bank’s net international reserves, government borrowing from the SBP, and foreign currency swap / forward position.

However, the performance criteria on net domestic assets and the fiscal deficit were missed, as was the indicative target on tax revenue.

The IMF urged Pakistani authorities to complete their reform agenda because it was critical for it to achieve its broader economic objectives, and continued effort will be important in the period ahead.

It also urged them to promote gender equality, and further expand coverage under the Benazir Income Support Programme to protect the most vulnerable.

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Do you remember at the start of Nawaz Sharif government in 2013 the Circular debts where around 500 Billion , Congratulation now it has raised to 661 Billion. We are doomed for sure now.:rofl: :yahoo::cheesy:
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