PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

[Norwegian]

Rumors are there that the Speaker himself didn't want to reject the NCV so Deputy Speaker had to.

No. Speaker could not give this ruling because opposition came with NCM against him

 

[Menace2Society]

Because there is not a single law against horse trading. Law makers want this system as it suits it

So India can come along with $$$ and buy everyone. Where are the safeguards

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512048019985760264

Dear Overseas Pakistanis,

I urge you to stop sending remittances to Pakistan, till new general elections take place. Thank you.

 

[Bratva]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512048019985760264

Dear Overseas Pakistanis,

I urge you to stop sending remittances to Pakistan, till new general elections take place. Thank you.

Pakistan mae jin ko remittances bhejte hain, unka kharcha app uthaye ge?

 

[Meengla]

Yes, it happens in India as well sometimes. Just live with it in flawed democracies. All part of evolution on the road to political maturity in the society.

Correct.
Anarchy is worse than corruption. Most failing or failed countries have the problem of not smoothly managing transfer of power. Pakistan finally managed that in the last two decades and must not go back to the past before that. Corruption can be slowly weeded out, given time but not totally. Even in America, recently Senators Sinema and Manchin have been accused of taking some unknown support from Republicans to scuttle Biden's big agenda.
PS. I am hoping PTI wins with a clear majority in next elections and introduce measures to counter horse trading in future.

 

[yusufjee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512048019985760264

Dear Overseas Pakistanis,

I urge you to stop sending remittances to Pakistan, till new general elections take place. Thank you.

If they don't send remittances, how will their relatives survive? I would suggest stopping investing and stopping savings in Roshan accounts.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes, it happens in India as well sometimes. Just live with it in flawed democracies. All part of evolution on the road to political maturity in the society.

Loooool. Democracy is flawed because you are living with horse trading instead of doing something against it.

 

[Sal12]

C'mon guys! This is Supreme court of Pak which is here for crooks, corrupts and traitors only just like our establishment. They will never pass a judgement in favour of PTI.

 

[yusufjee]

Correct.
Anarchy is worse than corruption. Most failing or failed countries have the problem of not smoothly managing transfer of power. Pakistan finally managed that in the last two decades and must not go back to the past before that. Corruption can be slowly weeded out, given time but not totally. Even in America, recently Senators Sinema and Manchin have been accused of taking some unknown support from Republicans to scuttle Biden's big agenda.
PS. I am hoping PTI wins with a clear majority in next elections and introduce measures to counter horse trading in future.

Not as simple in Pakistan. Ethics are non-existent. Corruption is economy.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Prima Dona , Supreme courts
They just like the media attention and rock star status , dragging cases and proceedings for 10 years for criminals

1- Proof from National Security Council and threat to State and Prime Minister

2- Article 63A Violation which claims you can't buy opinion of members from opposing party

• There is no confidence motion if the members are disqualified for going against their party

3- Supreme court has no say in Assembly


How is no confidence motion level if it breaks laws of constitution Article 63A

The speaker's decision is 100% correct based on evidence in favor of Nation



اگر آپ کے پاس بوتل ہے۔ بوتل کو صرف پانی پینے کے لیے استعمال کرنا چاہیے۔

لیکن اگر اس میں زہر ڈال دیا جائے تو یہ ضروری نہیں کہ اگر اس سے صحت کو نقصان پہنچتا ہے تو وہ بوتل سے پیئے۔

عدالت وضاحت کر رہی ہے کہ پینے کے پانی کے لیے بوتل ہی اچھا انتخاب کیوں ہے۔

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Pakistan mae jin ko remittances bhejte hain, unka kharcha app uthaye ge?

The election commission is making excuses about online voting for overseas Pakistanis, delaying elections, not implementing EVM, going against constitution that elections can't happen in 90 days,

Overseas Pakistanis have good grasp of constitution and their rights compared to ordinary Pakistanis, they have seen how things work in the world. The PDM foreign puppets cant fool them.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Far too many questions to be answered.

If SC has observed, and rules out the D. Speaker verdict of dismissing the NCM as unlawful, and strikes it down.

How does that entails that Parliament is restored as dissolution was the prerogative of PM and President acted on his advice. This need a second case and many more hearings.

This short order will create more lacunas...

The SC seems more interested in new polls ASAP, this is the only solution.

They can come up with this ruling that nation should go for polls and that D. speaker ruling was not correct, at the same time.

 

[Wood]

Correct.
Anarchy is worse than corruption. Most failing or failed countries have the problem of not smoothly managing transfer of power. Pakistan finally managed that in the last two decades and must not go back to the past before that. Corruption can be slowly weeded out, given time but not totally. Even in America, recently Senators Sinema and Manchin have been accused of taking some unknown support from Republicans to scuttle Biden's big agenda.
PS. I am hoping PTI wins with a clear majority in next elections and introduce measures to counter horse trading in future.

I disagree with this often touted idea of weeding out corruption. This is a very simplistic statement that politicians often make to collect votes. People have grown to accept this as a possibility without questioning if such a thing is possible anywhere in the world.

Corruption, in my opinion, is a derivate symptom of competition for basic resources in the society. The government is corrupt because people in society are corrupt. Different countries have different degrees to which their people are corrupt. This will not change if democracy is replaced with autocracy as many people believe.

This is a tangent to the topic of this thread, so I'll stop here.

 

[Meengla]

If they don't send remittances, how will their relatives survive? I would suggest stopping investing and stopping savings in Roshan accounts

It's incredible that some people want overseas Pakistanis to stop sending money to Pakistan because PTI is in trouble these days! The money not only helps the family members but also Pakistan! There is no limit to the fanboism of some people!

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

It's incredible that some people want overseas Pakistanis to stop sending money to Pakistan because PTI is in trouble these days! The money not only helps the family members but also Pakistan! There is no limit to the fanboism of some people!

There are constitutional amendments that now allow overseas Pakistanis to online vote in elections, why it isn't implemented by Election Commission, why there are excuses?