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Pig's head found on Belgian Mosque site

no big deal....people who may have called themselves Muslim may have done 9/11.

NYC still relies on Muslims --who are investing several BILLIONS of dollars; while some drive cabs or serve halal food to new yorkers, others are in suits in wallstreet and in tuxedos with briefcases full of money at columbus circle


that's why Mayor Bloomberg loves them so much... talk about Jewish-Islamic cooperation :D:D
 
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as for Sikhs -- it's sad to see that many of them were thrashed because people mistook them for Muslims.

not many people know even what is a Sikh or how they are different from a Muslim
 
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You seem to have overlooked many parts of History which depict reality of gruesome atrocities non-whites have committed against other non-whites.
Fights regarding land, religion and etcetera have always taken place everywhere, throughout the history. Most of these atrocities even find place today in countries within it's own people, no doubt. But I can't remember we wiped out an entire race in name of civilisation? (Aboriginals.) Or enslaved an entire race AND at the same time sucked dry their entire continent, AND till today's date not accepted them? (Africans.) These are just some examples, to name.

The discrimination against the Africans, first by Europeans and then by US is well documented and many steps were taken to correct that. Same with American Indians. I am sure the Australian govt is doing the same.
After destroying the Indiana's and Aboriginals and snatching their entire land from them, what on mother earth is left to correct!? Majority of black people in countries like USA and UK (for example) are still not accepted as much as they are pictured to be, majority of them despite of being on that soil for ages live in a million times worse condition than even people arriving today in those countries, what corrections are you talking about mate? Instead of 'donating' a few pennies to Africa in name of 'humanity', if west agrees to actually TRADE with Africa, that continent can actually fill some stomachs! They don't need aid, they need traders and THAT, my friend, is what I would call a 'correction'. Don't fool yourself too much buddy, period.

As for us, the non-Europeans, we dont discriminate against race or color, basically because we are the same color. Mostly. We discriminate others based on shade of skin color, religion, tradition, geographical area and what not! And you call us "civilized"?
In which comment of mine did I say we are civilized? It's not us, non-white, wiping out an entire race, call that race uncivilized and force civilisation on that race. If I am not mistaken, there was a place in India (forget it's name) where the British were snatching lands and oppressing people in name of 'civilisation', I am sure you as a Indian know more about it? Our argument in whatever fight never has been civilisation, nor are we dying to pass so called civilisation onto people who might be a million times more civilised than ourselves!

We dont propagate hate, as you say the Europeans did - which I find really hard to believe.
Every nation in Asia is stuck to it's own mentality, which is usually stuck at history. Hatred comes because of lack of communication and corporation. We don't propagate hatred in way that we prove to the world OUR hatred is justified, and then picture our hatred in a way the world is forced to follow the hatred system. European media throughout it's history has been a great example of it.

We teach our children to discriminate, we teach our children the superiority of ourselves over others based on really trivial matters.
I have got no idea what kind of people YOU know, but I yet have to meet such parents who preach hatred to their children. Don't forget that most parents back in Asian countries are illiterate, mainly because many of them have faced alot of hardships and had to work due to poverty. They might pass on ignorance to their children, or close minded views parents themselves grew old with, which doesn't have to be hate preaching. Literacy makes a BIG difference.

That is more dangerous than anything else the Europeans had done. Why do you think the Gulf and surrounding countries are in such a mess? You/we pass hatred down our generations. Those are not stupid fights or arguments as you said.
Had it not been for the British, I doubt hatred between Muslims and Hindus would have grown this major that Pakistan and India had to divide. Had it not been for the British, I doubt Pak and Afghan government would have been enemies today because of the divided tribes. Had it not been for the European government's encouragement to the Jews, I doubt such a huge tension would have taken place between Israel and Palestine that neither side is tolerant of sharing 'their' land. Asia has been divided very wisely, and that hasn't always been according to our own wish. I hope you know what I am talking about.

I don't think so. Because it is the 9/11 syndrome that has caused this.
And what syndrome caused the attacks on Indians in Australia? Today 9/11 is the excuse, tomorrow any other issue might be. Don't rely on it too much.
 
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Europe and Islam has never been friends so such behavior is expected..but we are slowly and surely leading to victory..there is no church as of yet in Saudi Arabia but plently of mosques everywhere in Christian heartland Europe..taking full advantage of their laws i hope
 
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Europe and Islam has never been friends so such behavior is expected..but we are slowly and surely leading to victory..there is no church as of yet in Saudi Arabia but plently of mosques everywhere in Christian heartland Europe..taking full advantage of their laws i hope

And they wonder why Europeans are afraid... Onward to victory yeah.....
 
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Its just that people are angry, but they just don't know why. Blaming it on other minorities. Pretty much how hitler blamed the jews for Germany's failure.

 
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^ Precisely, whenever there are bad financial times, the majority tends to pick on minorities and blame it all on them, the best example is the Jews in Germany after the wall street crash.
 
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The increasingly cosy relationship between the extremist, racist EDL movement and the ultra-racist Zionist movement in the UK is becoming more and more visible with each passing demonstration that they attend. It is now a common sight to see a mass of Israeli flags at an EDL rally and a mob of EDL members at a pro-Israel rally. This is an association which is at once revealing as to the true nature of the Zionist movement whilst also a source, one would assume, of much distress and embarrassment to right minded Jews who would blanch at such a self-defeating and counter-productive association.

For their part, the EDL clearly scrape the bottom of the barrel for members. It is hardly a thinking man's organisation. Typically comprised of thugs and louts it is scarcely a group that any sane individual would be proud to be a member of; and yet hundreds of Zionists have signed up to be a part of the new EDL "Jewish Division". This includes individuals such as Roberta Moore, who makes a habit of inciting hatred against Muslims while running around with an Israeli flag tied around her neck like a cape. Exposing her ignorance with statements such as "Islam is not a religion but a cult" she does seem to fit the EDL's low criteria for membership. The foul vitriol she spewed at one recent EDL rally not only betrayed her ignorance of Islam but her desire to incite hatred against more than 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide.

This is nothing knew and many have been forced recently to openly recant their spurious statements about Islam and Muslim organisations. Take for instance, the apology issued by The Spectator last week following Stephen Pollard's grossly absurd statement that Islam Expo is a racist, fascist and genocidal organisation! When challenged in court he claimed the remark was unintentional. Justice was served in this instance and Islam Expo won their case against The Spectator including an apology, legal costs and damages.

It is surely not hard to see why a fascist organisation recruiting Jewish Zionists seems like such a strange association at first. In their minds however, the Zionists have convinced themselves that they are manipulating the EDL, which may very well be the case. As Roberta Moore said in an interview with Haaretz recently, "They think the league is exploiting us, while it is really we who initiated the Jewish division. If anything, we are exploiting them." Funnily enough this is a claim that some BNP members also share. According to one report, "BNP leader Nick Griffin has claimed that the English Defence League is being manipulated and directed by Zionists to create a race war on the streets of Britain."

OK, so regardless of who is manipulating whom, we now have Jewish Zionist members of the EDL, and EDL members taking up Israeli flags as a standard part of their protest apparel, but who else do they associate with? A photo taken on 14th August this year shows Jonathan Hoffman, the Vice Chair of the Zionist Federation, waving an Israeli flag at a counter protest outside Ahava in Covent Gardens, standing side by side with none other than Roberta Moore. At first Hoffman tried to deny any association between them and insisted that the picture was photo shopped; a lie he had to apologise for on his blog on the Jewish Chronicle website last week (24th August). Given the fact that Roberta has reportedly said "she used to support Rabbi Meir Kahane's far-right Kach party in Israel", (a group so extreme that it has even been banned in Israel and has been designated a terrorist organisation by Israel, the USA and the EU among others), this only further exposes the extremist element present within the Zionist demonstrations that people like Hoffman so regularly attends.

Hoffman should stop being so surprised and acting so wounded when he is excluded from public events given such associations. He has whined on many occasions about being ejected from or excluded from public meetings on Palestine. He complained for instance when he was stopped by police at the House of Commons from entering a meeting co-hosted by the Middle East Monitor (MEMO) and the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), despite the fact that he was ejected for trying to get into the meeting firstly without registering and then by using a false name. However, as Sarah Colborne, director of campaigns and operations at PSC, pointed out, ‘moreover, like any organisation, we cannot welcome people who disrupt meetings, shout down speakers, refuse to let others speak, and fail to halt their disruptive activities when politely asked to do so by the chair. Such behaviour is contrary to the principles of democracy, and is actually an attempt to shut down free speech. Jonathan Hoffman, in several previous meetings, has behaved in the manner described, leading to his ejection by the police.'

Such behaviour has become the staple norm for those such as Hoffman and his cabal. Shouting down speakers as he did at the Amnesty International meeting held for Haaretz writer Gideon Levy, chaired by Jon Snow last week (24th August), was only the latest example of Hoffman's predictable and feeble attempts to disrupt any public meeting that dares to point out the human rights violations and moral inadequacies of his great nation of Israel.

The fact that people such as Moore allegedly had or have associations with the extremist terrorist groups such as Kach and are joining forces with the EDL should be a cause of concern not only to British society as a whole but to Jewish people in particular who are at risk of such extreme elements claiming to speak for them.

Zionists may temporarily revel in their acceptance by groups such as the EDL and they may be temporarily united under the banner that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but they should ask themselves, who is next on the bigoted hit list of groups such as the EDL after Islam? The memory of any Jew who joins the rank and file with the likes of the EDL seems short indeed and they do a grave disservice to all the Jewish men and women who have spent their lives tackling racism and anti-Semitism. Before they begin to rant and rave about Muslim extremism, Zionists should check out their own associates first and perhaps be more discriminating as to whom they allow to speak for them.

Uncovered: the unholy Zionist-EDL alliance
 
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The increasingly cosy relationship between the extremist, racist EDL movement and the ultra-racist Zionist movement in the UK is becoming more and more visible with each passing demonstration that they attend. It is now a common sight to see a mass of Israeli flags at an EDL rally and a mob of EDL members at a pro-Israel rally. This is an association which is at once revealing as to the true nature of the Zionist movement whilst also a source, one would assume, of much distress and embarrassment to right minded Jews who would blanch at such a self-defeating and counter-productive association.

For their part, the EDL clearly scrape the bottom of the barrel for members. It is hardly a thinking man's organisation. Typically comprised of thugs and louts it is scarcely a group that any sane individual would be proud to be a member of; and yet hundreds of Zionists have signed up to be a part of the new EDL "Jewish Division". This includes individuals such as Roberta Moore, who makes a habit of inciting hatred against Muslims while running around with an Israeli flag tied around her neck like a cape. Exposing her ignorance with statements such as "Islam is not a religion but a cult" she does seem to fit the EDL's low criteria for membership. The foul vitriol she spewed at one recent EDL rally not only betrayed her ignorance of Islam but her desire to incite hatred against more than 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide.

This is nothing knew and many have been forced recently to openly recant their spurious statements about Islam and Muslim organisations. Take for instance, the apology issued by The Spectator last week following Stephen Pollard's grossly absurd statement that Islam Expo is a racist, fascist and genocidal organisation! When challenged in court he claimed the remark was unintentional. Justice was served in this instance and Islam Expo won their case against The Spectator including an apology, legal costs and damages.

It is surely not hard to see why a fascist organisation recruiting Jewish Zionists seems like such a strange association at first. In their minds however, the Zionists have convinced themselves that they are manipulating the EDL, which may very well be the case. As Roberta Moore said in an interview with Haaretz recently, "They think the league is exploiting us, while it is really we who initiated the Jewish division. If anything, we are exploiting them." Funnily enough this is a claim that some BNP members also share. According to one report, "BNP leader Nick Griffin has claimed that the English Defence League is being manipulated and directed by Zionists to create a race war on the streets of Britain."

OK, so regardless of who is manipulating whom, we now have Jewish Zionist members of the EDL, and EDL members taking up Israeli flags as a standard part of their protest apparel, but who else do they associate with? A photo taken on 14th August this year shows Jonathan Hoffman, the Vice Chair of the Zionist Federation, waving an Israeli flag at a counter protest outside Ahava in Covent Gardens, standing side by side with none other than Roberta Moore. At first Hoffman tried to deny any association between them and insisted that the picture was photo shopped; a lie he had to apologise for on his blog on the Jewish Chronicle website last week (24th August). Given the fact that Roberta has reportedly said "she used to support Rabbi Meir Kahane's far-right Kach party in Israel", (a group so extreme that it has even been banned in Israel and has been designated a terrorist organisation by Israel, the USA and the EU among others), this only further exposes the extremist element present within the Zionist demonstrations that people like Hoffman so regularly attends.

Hoffman should stop being so surprised and acting so wounded when he is excluded from public events given such associations. He has whined on many occasions about being ejected from or excluded from public meetings on Palestine. He complained for instance when he was stopped by police at the House of Commons from entering a meeting co-hosted by the Middle East Monitor (MEMO) and the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), despite the fact that he was ejected for trying to get into the meeting firstly without registering and then by using a false name. However, as Sarah Colborne, director of campaigns and operations at PSC, pointed out, ‘moreover, like any organisation, we cannot welcome people who disrupt meetings, shout down speakers, refuse to let others speak, and fail to halt their disruptive activities when politely asked to do so by the chair. Such behaviour is contrary to the principles of democracy, and is actually an attempt to shut down free speech. Jonathan Hoffman, in several previous meetings, has behaved in the manner described, leading to his ejection by the police.'

Such behaviour has become the staple norm for those such as Hoffman and his cabal. Shouting down speakers as he did at the Amnesty International meeting held for Haaretz writer Gideon Levy, chaired by Jon Snow last week (24th August), was only the latest example of Hoffman's predictable and feeble attempts to disrupt any public meeting that dares to point out the human rights violations and moral inadequacies of his great nation of Israel.

The fact that people such as Moore allegedly had or have associations with the extremist terrorist groups such as Kach and are joining forces with the EDL should be a cause of concern not only to British society as a whole but to Jewish people in particular who are at risk of such extreme elements claiming to speak for them.

Zionists may temporarily revel in their acceptance by groups such as the EDL and they may be temporarily united under the banner that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but they should ask themselves, who is next on the bigoted hit list of groups such as the EDL after Islam? The memory of any Jew who joins the rank and file with the likes of the EDL seems short indeed and they do a grave disservice to all the Jewish men and women who have spent their lives tackling racism and anti-Semitism. Before they begin to rant and rave about Muslim extremism, Zionists should check out their own associates first and perhaps be more discriminating as to whom they allow to speak for them.

Uncovered: the unholy Zionist-EDL alliance

The topic is about a Mosque and racism against Muslims and you, my dear ovarel, go and google about Jews and EDL. :lol:
I really do love you ovarel, you put a smile on my face, every single time. :cheers:
 
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The topic is about a Mosque and racism against Muslims and you, my dear ovarel, go and google about Jews and EDL. :lol:
I really do love you ovarel, you put a smile on my face, every single time. :cheers:

nope i didnt google about jews..but i did google about pro-israelis and this racist EDL..then,what i found was interesting so i shared it.

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hope it wont get bromantic...
 
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nope i didnt google about jews..but i did google about pro-israelis and this racist EDL..then,what i found was interesting so i shared it.

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hope it wont get bromantic...

Too late about the bromantic part i`m afraid. :)
All anti-muslim groups view Israel as their savior no matter what you google, doesn`t mean these foolish people know a thing about Israel.
 
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All what I can say that this is sad...

All I can feel is betrayed by someone for something loved by so many...

All I see is unnecessary sparks to create flames on peace...

All I perceive is how uncivilized we become for all we need...

But then I ask a question to you my friends... if religion is love then why so much hate...

I feel sorry for my Muslim brothers and condemn anyone who would do such an activity ... however, I still believe that all religions are above these petty things and won't squabble over an individual activity by targeting other religions or nations.
 
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I myself was attacked 2 days after 9/11 when coming back from summer school by 2 white thugs who followed me onto the tube lucky for me a black man saw in the tube and came to help me maybe it was my karma that day.
 
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I myself was attacked 2 days after 9/11 when coming back from summer school by 2 white thugs who followed me onto the tube lucky for me a black man saw in the tube and came to help me maybe it was my karma that day.

Can you explain us in short what is a Karma? I want to compare with similarities from Islamic perspective.

Thank you sir.
 
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