Pictures & Video of the Three Z-10 Helicopters to Pakistan - updated

[Imran Khan]

Acha jani tu kehta hai tau wait ker laita hn main

ok lets have mini party full baad main ker leen gay

 

[Beast]

No, what you mention is fantasy. My negative rating to you was because you called me a "venom snake". All reality cares about are facts, and you don't have facts on your side.

It is a right call. You are the one insulting Chinese engineer and you maligned I am the one doing that. That is a venom action.

 

[tarrar]

The main purpose is to battle test them.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The main purpose is to battle test them.

Also to get a head start of sorts in Pakistan's attack helicopter procurement.

 

[Imran Khan]

were is wz-19 here ? i can see only z-10

 

[That Guy]

It is a right call. You are the one insulting Chinese engineer and you maligned I am the one doing that. That is a venom action.

I didn't insult anyone. Telling someone to improve is NOT an insult. Do you even know what an insult is? You suggesting that Pakistani forces that they should be grateful to China, as if Pakistan is some sort of slave to China; That Pakistan never should evaluate Chinese technology before induction, THAT is an insult. It is Pakistani soldiers fighting and dying everyday to keep the region stable, the least they deserve is to have fully functional, and completely reliable systems. That is why the JF-17 has Russian engines, that is why Pakistan bought f-16 last year, that is why Pakistan bought SPADA-2000 air defense systems, and looks like it is planning on buying more.

Chinese engineers are smarter than you give them credit for, they know the flaws of their systems, and continue to improve to this day. They know they're not perfect, and if they listened to your advise, they would laugh at you.

Your "call" was wrong, as usual. You're not presenting any facts or realities, all you're doing is attacking me.

I'm not here to pander to you, or make you feel better. If you can't handle my words, that's your problem you're fortunate to have military leaders who understand that they need to improve and have a long way to go.

I don't have to explain myself to you at all.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Thats a nice looking bird

 

[VelocuR]

Love this baby!

China already has inducted this helicopter officially in their service - WZ-10 Thunderbolt Attack Helicopter - Updates & Discussions. | Page 31


@That Guy, you need to remove negative rating on our Chinese friend, you can't do that.

 

[VelocuR]

WZ-19 - different tailor and different body

Why? He's no friend of mine. Would you apologize to some who called you "snake venom"? And accused you of being a "western stooge"? Or accused you of worshipping the Turks? Or accused you of lying and then not being able prove you lied?

It is my right to give this negative rating. If you have a problem, talk to the mods.

I haven't read all discussion, but seeing last few pages. I think he might be upset when you push Chinese to improve their helicopters with some features. We need to be aware that China already has officially inducted WZ-10, you will find ton of information there. It is just us who are idiots who can't make helicopters overnight since 2005 and American can't give us more Apaches/Cobras.

China did work very hard to keep up everything for us. Don't need to criticize our Chinese friends, we should learn from them and work together. We must appreciate them daily.

 

[MilSpec]

Sir, there is not much difference in T129 or Z-10.....specs wise on paper at least, they are the same. Neither is as rugged and abuse tolerant as MI28/MI35....i think PAA wants to evaluate the physicals of the chopper more than avionics...since it comes with all the goodies, glass cockpit, flir etc....and plethora of weapons to integrate. If it is better than Cobras in that terrain and hot/dusty conditions (the most important factor) then PAA would want it.

the machines look kick as$... congrats again.

 

[That Guy]

the machines look kick as$... congrats again.

Its still under evaluation, no need to jump the gun just yet. If it passes the test, then congrats. I'm still holding out hope for the T-129b as they've presented Pakistan with a great deal.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

All three of them are WZ10 .... WZ19 have different tail rotor

 

[MilSpec]

Its still under evaluation, no need to jump the gun just yet. If it passes the test, then congrats. I'm still holding out hope for the T-129b as they've presented Pakistan with a great deal.

I say milk it,
Get ToT for the bearing, rotor, gyro, frame and engine, get the new PGM (the helfire type launched from the ucav), air launched Bakhtar Shikan variant on quad rail and avionics. Make it a rotary wing offering alongside JF17. China will offer you a long term strategic solution that turkey, russia or US won't.

 

[帅的一匹]

I'm desperate to see WZ10 in Cobra's colour, come on!

 

[That Guy]

I say milk it,
Get ToT for the bearing, rotor, gyro, frame and engine, get the new PGM (the helfire type launched from the ucav), air launched Bakhtar Shikan variant on quad rail and avionics. Make it a rotary wing offering alongside JF17. China will offer you a long term strategic solution that turkey, russia or US won't.

I don't think China would go that far, even for Pakistan. Tot would be minimal at best.