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PIA plane crash near Model Colony Karachi with 93+ on board

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2) To be honest, I don't think an aborted gear collapse landing is something most pilots train for currently but they should in the future. I think Emirates 521 crash in Dubai was a good example of what would've happened if PIA stayed on ground after gear collapse. Emirates 521 bounced hard on landing and then had landing gear collapse but pilot kept it on ground. Emirates plane was completely destroyed but every single person survived because pilot did the right thing by not aborting after plane hit the ground.

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You example of EK-521 does not hold true. EK-521 crashed due to "wind-shear" based issues, and not MLG deployment failures, as was the case of the ill fated PK-8303.


Investigators release final Emirates 777 crash-landing report
22nd February 2020

Emirates Boeing 777 aircraft, flying from India, crash-landed in Dubai (UAE) as it was attempting to fly a go-around, bursting into flames minutes later. While the 300 people onboard the wide-body evacuated alive, a firefighter was killed when tackling the fire. Immediately after the accident, which happened in 2016, a landing gear failure was suspected to be at fault. However, the final accident report now points to pilot mistake and the fact that the engine thrust was insufficient for a second go-around flight.

Emirates Boeing 777-300 crash-landing at Dubai (the UAE) on August 3, 2016, was the first accident of such scale in the Emirates’ history. Immediately after the incident, reports emerged stating that the aircraft had issues with its landing gear, suggesting that the gear did not fully extend and the aircraft had to land on its belly. However, during the course of investigation, no issues with the Boeing 777-300’s systems or its Rolls-Royce engines were found and the investigators’ shifted their focus to the crew.

Emirates Boeing 777 crash-lands with explosion in Dubai
Emirates Boeing 777-300, registration number A6-EMW, was operating a scheduled passenger flight UAE521 on August 3, 2016. Having departed from Trivandrum International Airport (VOTV), India, the aircraft was about to land at its destination airport in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates.

During the first landing attempt, the Emirates pilots were unable to land the airplane within the runway zone, opting for a go-around instead. While a moderate windshear was expected on the day, the main reason for the go-around decision was due to thermals. Thus, the crew opted for a normal go-around instead of the windshear escape maneuver.

However, some switches required for the second go-around were inhibited because of a touchdown. The problem was, the flight crew were unaware that there had been a touchdown, which lasted for six seconds.

After becoming airborne during the go-around attempt, the aircraft had insufficient engine thrust for the climb and quickly began losing height and speed. While the pilots did try to fix the situation by performing the windshear escape maneuver, it was already too late.

Eighteen seconds after the initiation of the go-around, the Boeing 777 carrying 282 passengers, 16 cabin crew, and two pilots, crashed-landed on the runway 12L in Dubai International Airport (DXB).

After sliding on its lower fuselage along the runway, the plane finally came to a stop next to a taxiway Mike 13. Less than ten minutes later, the aircraft burst into flames as the center wing tank exploded.

Despite the fact that some passengers evacuated with their carry-on baggage, thus prolonging the procedure, the evacuation lasted for about seven minutes (6 minutes 40 seconds). During it, 21 passengers, a pilot, and six crew members sustained minor injuries, while four cabin crew members were injured more seriously. Only the captain and the senior cabin crew member evacuated after the center wing tank explosion.

However, the accident did result in one fatality. The explosion of the wing tank tore down a large section of the right wing upper skin. The falling panel struck and fatally injured a firefighter.

The Emirates Boeing 777 was destroyed during the fire.

Final report lists four main causes
Following a four years’ investigation, the UAE’s General Civil Aviation Authority issued a final report on January 20, 2020. The determined there were four main causes and various contributing factors to the accident:

a) During the attempted go-around, except for the last three seconds prior to impact, both engine thrust levers, and therefore engine thrust, remained at idle. Consequently, the Aircraft’s energy state was insufficient to sustain flight.

(b) The flight crew did not effectively scan and monitor the primary flight instrumentation parameters during the landing and the attempted go-around.

(c) The flight crew were unaware that the autothrottle (A/T) had not responded to move the engine thrust levers to the TO/GA position after the Commander pushed the TO/GA switch at the initiation of the FCOM ̶ Go-around and Missed Approach Procedure.

(d) The flight crew did not take corrective action to increase engine thrust because they omitted the engine thrust verification steps of the FCOM ̶ Go-around and Missed Approach Procedure.



https://www.aerotime.aero/aerotime....lease-final-emirates-777-crash-landing-report
 
govt is happy as far as foreign money is coming in dollars for buying of such properties,this is one major source of foreign investment in Pakistan as we have failed to develop industries for attracting investment in other sectors
equally big khanzirs they are constructing and selling floors most are illegal however the issue is they are free to do as they like and as long as they can keep filling pockets of the respective authorities no one gives a flyng fck, what i am saying is builder mafias work in conjuction with indivisuals within authorites , they can shut up any one raising an issue within a day ... heck the entire thing is on the door step of a holy chaowni .. when those who are paid to protect , plan , safeguard life and property are like this than expect this .. does this makes you happy
 
SINDH court's fault , for disqualifying the CEO of PIA and taking away his attention from management of PIA for 3-4 months due to political drama staged by court.

I had already stated this before when they were playing their drama bazi , wait untill a accident happens and it will be all on their Head

for Good 3-5 months this drama was going on which prevented CEO to work what do CEO do they .... order parts , oversea work , labor and ensure work is being done

Had they not interfered in operations of a PIA , lead by retired Airforce experience guy likely this accident could have been prevented

When you interfere "Su Moto crap" for no reason on a perfectly good man's work then these accidents are bound to happen

CEO/GM makes critical decisions to buy parts and , also attend various important meetings abouts up keep of planes and their overall maintenance by playing the "Su Moto Crap" drama courts hindered the oversight on a critical operation line in PIA

SINDH court and judges involved in this political drama about PIA choosing not good for their liking are 100% to be blamed

When you order the CEO/GM of company to sit at home because you think their Airforce education and 20 year experience is not enough to run a Airplane operation businesss then what can you say ....


Su-Moto crap , Kala Bagh Dam
Su-Moto Riqo Diq case
Su-Moto Firing of excessive hiree in state owned entities
Su-Moto Why people are asked to to stay home in corona virus
Su-Moto PIA CEO position appointment by PTI


Mean while Nawaz Sharif leaves Prison and country on a 5 rupee paper from baniya outside the courtyard



Remember this??
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PIA chief stopped from working on petition challenging appointment
https://www.dawn.com/news/1525475



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When a person CEO is working ?! and every thing is fine then why he was told to sit home? the absence impacted PIA operations which caused the crashed few months later

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GAME HO GIYA FINISH
Now BC , judges will go on their Summer Vacation after crash happened MC

Will any BC Sindh high court judge will come and claim he made error for banning the ceo of PIA ? No .....

court court game ho giya !!!! Dil Khol ker su moto ker lo BC courts

Eating tea and buscuit in Sindh High court or Punjab High court and passing out su moto with no head or tail

Sindh , center of HIV outbreak
Sindh center of Corona outbreak
Sindh , involved in food hoarding and budget money gone with no purchase of food per records

And courts taking Su-moto to take orders from PPP to ban CEO of PIA


PPP had buget of 8 billion dollar they can't even , start up Steeles mills !!! in their own province ?





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Agar plane first-time runway per agaya tha aur 3 jhatkon kay baad thora chala bhe tha I'm wondering why did Pilot decided to fly that plane back again in the air?

For a 2nd attempt at Landing but unfortunately as pointed out by other members as well it seems during 1st attempt both engines skid the runway causing massive damage & later hydraulic failure as well.
 
In the History of Pakistan, this is the first air crash, in which PIA CEO has done a press conference after a crash. This never happened before. Also promised an independent enquiry and federal Minister has said they will complete the enquiry in 3 months, and a time frame has been given.
This never happened before.
 
CAA and City planners are responsible for "anything" within the flt path. Someone should also ask the Telco as well.
But in Pakistan "Sub chalta hai" :hitwall:

Scum bags , from Top to Toe every single govt entity

Sir with high rise buildings, you need a very efficient multi layered road network, and mass transit system. Without this High rises only encourage traffic congestion. As you might be aware that traffic congestions have a direct effect on productivity and hence the economy.

As to the vicinity of the airport, this incident has highlighted two issues:
1) Population close to it
2) Sanitary issues - garbage pile ups.

Both these issues are a hazard to aviation, and need to be addressed at the earliest.

Today, Civil Aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan informed that 1500 Acres of Civil Aviation land has been encroached in Karachi :pissed:
 
CAA and City planners are responsible for "anything" within the flt path. Someone should also ask the Telco as well.
But in Pakistan "Sub chalta hai" :hitwall:

Scum bags , from Top to Toe every single govt entity

CAA and city planners also destroyed our skyline . tey did not allow to build high rises but they can not stop the mess near airport ,

What else can one expect in a country where even military dictators didn't take strict action against such negligence? Only firing squads can fix this mess. There is absolutely no fear of consequences for traitors in this place.
 
not happy but sad that we have put all our eggs in fauji basket who are as corrupt as politicians!

any news on the casualties now official?

everyone is reporting their own numbers
 
May God have mercy on them and give their families patience.
 
my request to the staff that in an event like this when thread creator not updating the opening post with latest info then staff should take over the thread and edit and update it with the latest info.
it will become more informative than just mixtures of random comments. we don't have to go page by page to get info.thanks.

this will give you what i am trying to say.
thanks to r/Pakistan
What we know?

Aircraft type : A320-214

Age : 15 years (Aug 2004)

Aircraft Registration AP-BLD

Flight destination : KHI/OPKC, Jinnah International Airport Karachi.

Origin: LHE/OPLA, Allama Iqbal International Airport Lahore.

Souls onboard: 91 Passengers + 7 Crew

Casualties and survivors: 97 Dead 2 Survivors (CEO PIA 23/5)

Aircraft Crashed into a residential neighbourhood called Model Colony

Initial Statement by the CAA “The aircraft was experiencing some technical issue with landing gear before landing.”

Useful Links

List and the names of the passenger on board

Official Press Release by PIA

Twitter Thread by Aircraft Tracking Website FR24



Crash Site on a map



Statement by the President



Statement by the Prime Minister



Statement by the CEO of PIA



Statement by ICAO, the UN governing body for Aviation.



Statement by Airbus, the manufacturer of the Aircraft involved



Last known photo of the Aircraft

, charring visible on the bottom of the Engines, RAT Deployed. Possible bird strikes causing multiple engine failure

Conversations between the ATC and the ill fated flight



Press statement by IATA, the international airline industry organization that PIA is a member of



Press Conference by CEO PIA



“Air Commodore Usman Ghani to head Aircraft Accident Investigation Board (AAIB) team for investigation of the crash.”

This will be updated once more info is available

here is the video with some tech information about the incident.
 
Too may armchair analysists here... can anyone please update abt loss of life and survivors? My heart goes to those lil kids..
 
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