Philippines, China eye compromise to end standoff

[NiceGuy]

China involved with Pot-Pot's massacre on asian? Please enlighten us with hard fact evidences.

Dude, just Google it and you can see thousand of evidences

These two beautiful Chinese girls came with three dark-skinned Cambodians and herded my family outside our house at gunpoint," she murmured, adding that the girls spoke to one another in a language that was neither Vietnamese nor Khmer.

The Khmer Rouge then used the same formula for execution as in Cambodia. "They pointed their weapons and ordered us to come to a meeting with their superiors," said Nga, a dignified, soft-spoken woman.

She was forced toward the border with parents, siblings, husband and six children. Suddenly, their escorts began clubbing the children. Her youngest daughter was struck violently on the head three times and cried "Mother, Mother." Nga fainted, and when she regained consciousness everyone was dead and she was covered with blood.

She had been shot through the neck and hit on the head. She still suffers violent headaches.

In a temple, I saw where 40 terrified victims hid under the altar before being killed by grenades. Faded bloodstains and bullet impacts still mark the wall. A portrait of Ho Chi Minh sits on another altar.
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Who were these mysterious "beautiful girls?" It is unlikely they were ethnic Chinese living in Cambodia, as Pol Pot distrusted and liquidated over half of that population.

Were they, then, Chinese cadres? Also unlikely, but not beyond the realm of possibility, analysts say. Beijing had at least 1,500 technical and military advisers with the Khmer Rouge. Some may have accompanied front-line units: Beijing, after all, provided the military hardware.

Will crimes committed in Pol Pot's other Killing Fields in Vietnam be considered by the UN-backed international tribunal for former Khmer Rouge leaders, which may commence later this year? The tribunal's jurisdiction is limited to Cambodia, but as these attacks were mounted from Cambodia, it could widen its mandate, lawyers say. Mysteries may be cleared up.
MEANWHILE - When the Khmer Rouge came to kill in Vietnam - NYTimes.com

BTW, Singapore have military agreement with not just only US alone but also many other nations within the west asia pacific region since the Pre cold war. The goal of these pacts is just to ensure stability and peace for our development, and this have been true even until today. In addition, we see China as a force in the region to be reckoned with, providing regional stability and also acting as a catalyst to further boost our economical developmen

Dude, US just consider Singapore as a pawn in their strategy, if you guys don't make US happy, they will simply destroy you like a cockroach. Your conutry simply have No future, dude

 

[oct605032048]

Dude, US just consider Singapore as a pawn in their strategy, if you guys don't make US happy, they will simply destroy you like a cockroach. Your conutry simply have No future, dude

And ... you?

 

[Gnimgnay]

I can assure you that during the governments of the Qing Dynasty, Sun Yat Sen and by Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai Shek), there were no Chinese naval forces claiming the spratleys or the Scarborough shoal.

I don't know whether Chinese naval forces claimed that or not.
But I do know 9-dotted-line in 1947 was acknowledged by US.

 

[Diamond_Gold]

Dude, just Google it and you can see thousand of evidences


Dude, US just consider Singapore as a pawn in their strategy, if you guys don't make US happy, they will simply destroy you like a cockroach. Your conutry simply have No future, dude

LOL, sounds more like you are talking about yourself and your many comrades here. Stop worrying for us singaporeans, US and China is the least we have to worry. In fact, we will want to have more closer engagement with both of them. If you are unsure, just read our policies and the official statements whenever they are available.

Yeah, just google and you will receive a P.H.D without going to school also.

 

[avene]

news update:

China and Philippines end fishing standoff

Chinese fishing boats leave disputed shoal in South China Sea, ending days of tension


Guardian | China and Philippines end fishing standoff

The last five Chinese fishing boats at the centre of a dangerous impasse between China and the Philippines have left a disputed shoal in the South China Sea, diffusing the standoff, officials say.

A spokesman for the Philippine department of foreign affairs, Raúl Hernández, confirmed that the boats had left Scarborough Shoal off the north-western Philippines.

He said the Philippine foreign secretary, Albert del Rosario, and the Chinese ambassador, Ma Keqing, were continuing to talk to find a permanent solution to the Scarborough issue. Both countries claim the uninhabited, horseshoe-shaped shoal, which lies 140 miles (230km) from Zambales province, the nearest Philippine coast.

The impasse began on Tuesday when Chinese ships prevented the Philippine navy from detaining Chinese fishermen allegedly caught poaching endangered corals, giant clams and live sharks.

Eight Chinese fishing boats were initially seen in the area, but the number increased to 12 at one point, said Lieutenant General Anthony Alcantara, the regional military commander.

The last five vessels left the area on Friday night along with a Chinese fisheries law enforcement ship after talks between the two countries' diplomats, he said. The other boats had pulled out earlier.

A Chinese maritime survey ship and a Philippine coastguard vessel remain in the area, where Philippine fishing boats are also present, Alcantara said.

He said the Chinese boats had apparently left with their catch, which Philippine authorities had earlier wanted to confiscate in accordance with local law.

The impasse has reignited concerns about potential conflict in the South China Sea, one of the world's busiest seas lanes and home to myriad competing territorial claims, most notably the Spratly Islands, which are south of the shoal.

The disputes have settled into an uneasy standoff since the last major clash, which involved China and Vietnam and killed more than 70 Vietnamese sailors in 1988.

 

[applesauce]

news update:

China and Philippines end fishing standoff

Chinese fishing boats leave disputed shoal in South China Sea, ending days of tension


Guardian | China and Philippines end fishing standoff

well this ended peacefully enough, or as much as it can be
the BBS is full of ppl daring the Phillippines to fire off a few rounds, lol

 

[SinoChallenger]

Actually, Chinese coast guard still patrols our Huangyan Island (Scarborough Shoal). We now have a rotating permanent naval presence mere kilometers away from Manila. And still the USA is too scared of China to do anything.

 

[NiceGuy]

LOL, sounds more like you are talking about yourself and your many comrades here. . If you are unsure, just read our policies and the official statements whenever they are available.

Yeah, just google and you will receive a P.H.D without going to school also.

You should learn the lesson from Us fomer ally South VietNam, president Ngo Dinh Diem tried to play smart with US, and he got shot badly, and South VN was abadoned after that when it had No use anymore.

US's allies is nothing but poor dogs, dude.

Stop worrying for us singaporeans, US and China is the least we have to worry. In fact, we will want to have more closer engagement with both of them

This like poor dog having no worry about his boss, but can't stop if the boss wanna eat him.

 

[USAHawk785]

Reports: US, Philippines building new naval base in Spratlys

A new seaport being built by the Philippine government in the Spratly islands could become the Pentagon's military outpost in the hotly contested South China Sea, according to news reports.

Manila is looking to rebuild the seaport and adjoining runway on Pagasa Island, which part of the chain of islands off the coast of the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam.

The Philippine government claims the effort is strictly designed to support commercial business and tourism to the island.

However local residents say the construction is the first step in creating a mini-naval base for U.S. and Philippine troops.

"It is near the Spratlys and U.S. can always check China’s aggressive campaign claim over Spratlys and maintain its military interest in the Asian region ... these advantages are non-negotiable," Salvador France, head of Pamalakaya, a local advocacy group in the region, told The Philippine Star on Monday.

The installation could also be used as a jumping-off point for counterterrorism operations in the Palawan region of the southern Philippines. The area is home to the Abu Sayyaf, an Islamic terror groups with ties to al Qaeda.

A U.S. special operations task force has been stationed in the region since 2001, supporting Philippine forces in their ongoing campaign against Abu Sayyaf and other Muslim extremist groups in the region.

American and Filipino forces are scheduled to begin military exercises in Palawan next month.

France also asserts the new facility on Pagasa Island will be the new home for thousands of U.S. Marines scheduled to leave Okinawa within the next two years.

DOD has planned to move the Marines to its installations in Guam, however the Pentagon is still reviewing plans for the move.

Congress blocked a request for additional funding to build up based in Guam in the fiscal 2012 defense bill, until DOD provides a road map on how the move will take place.

But that perceived foot-dragging by the department has drawn the ire of top congressional lawmakers in recent weeks.

"We acted, as is our responsibility, because of our intense frustration about the lack of progress on this issue," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) told Navy and Marine Corps leaders.

The review, which Congress requested to be complete by the end of March, has yet to be completed, McCain pointed out during a March 15 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"I'm not going to let you continue to slow walk us on this issue," he warned.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus told committee members that an private firm has been selected to conduct the assessment, but that company had not been put under official contract with DOD at the time.

However Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos told the committee the services and DOD were confident the assessment is on track.

"Both our government and the government of Japan at the very highest levels are still working through some of the issues, [but] I am comfortable" with future plans for Okinawa and Guam, he said.

The Spratly Islands and the surrounding South China Sea have been an area of contention among China and its neighbors in the Pacific.

The Pacific region is the focus of the Pentagon's new national security strategy unveiled in February.

Beijing claims the islands and surrounding waters as sovereign territory of China. Other nations, including the Philippines, have made similar claims.

Commercial vessels from those neighboring countries have complained of being harassed by Chinese naval ships patrolling those waters in recent years, further inflaming tensions.

Pacific Command sent a Navy destroyer to the South China Sea last June as a check against China's aggressiveness in the region.

 

[Fanling Monk]

You should learn the lesson from Us fomer ally South VietNam, president Ngo Dinh Diem tried to play smart with US, and he got shot badly, and South VN was abadoned after that when it had No use anymore.

US's allies is nothing but poor dogs, dude.

This like poor dog having no worry about his boss, but can't stop if the boss wanna eat him.

Singapore is a small city state and is prone to intimated by her bigger neighbors although her peaceful relation with them notwithstanding. Her close relationship with the US is genuine and went back for a long time. Recent years she also very close to China in the economy area. It's not easy to survive when you're small.

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[NiceGuy]

Singapore is a small city state and is prone to intimated by her bigger neighbors although her peaceful relation with them notwithstanding. Her close relationship with the US is genuine and went back for a long time. Recent years she also very close to China in the economy area. It's not easy to survive when you're small.

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That's why I said US's allies have No future, just look at what happen to South Vn to learn the lesson. If you can't stand by your own leg, you will fall down once day.Truth is alwys hurt

 

[Fanling Monk]

That's why I said US's allies have No future, just look at what happen to South Vn to learn the lesson. If you can't stand by your own leg, you will fall down once day.Truth is alwys hurt

I think it's OK to be friend with the US as long as you're not been too close , otherwise she'll use her money and military power to enslave you. Clear the future of Vietnam is China because China can single handed lift up Vietnam economy. Of course there will be difficult moment at times, why not, even 2 brothers fight all the time.

The world is changing and talks about wars is very foolish. The best way to go for the 2 countries is always keep a dialogue going no matter what.

 

[NiceGuy]

I think it's OK to be friend with the US as long as you're not been too close , otherwise she'll use her money and military power to enslave you. Clear the future of Vietnam is China because China can single handed lift up Vietnam economy. Of course there will be difficult moment at times, why not, even 2 brothers fight all the time.

The world is changing and talks about wars is very foolish. The best way to go for the 2 countries is always keep a dialogue going no matter what.

US has No friend, if you're not strong and have nouse, she will bully you, a so called "US's allies" is just weak countries bullied and enslaved by US. Maybe only UK and Israel is true US's allies, Singapore and another one simply have No chance, that's all.dude.

And we VN have our own plan too, we will co-operate with Russia-India, unify Sub-Mekong nations to counter all thread, we simply don't need and don't care abouth China, China have so many hungry people longing for our Rich reasouces in Sub-Mekong nations

The U.S. Has No Friends, Only Interests

by Tom Chartier
by Tom Chartier


DIGG THIS

The United States has no real friends. The United States only has "interests." With the exceptions of Number 10 Downing Street and the militant Israeli leadership, it's all business.

Not only are friends people who care about you, but also they are those on whom you can depend when times are tough. The maintenance of friendship requires goodwill and honor. Alliances can be made between nations to address enemies in common and to serve economic goals.

Should a nation abandon goodwill, honor, economic integrity and rational defense plans, that nation risks losing friends and allies.

America's friends have been discarded by a reckless Administration aided by a complicit Congress. Inside the smoke and mirrors of Washington DC, allies are sacrificed in pursuit of empire.

Much has been written about the execution of Saddam Hussein. Soon he will fall into little understood pages of seldom read history. I find profoundly disgusting the closing of his chapter in President George W. Bush's "Mission Accomplished."

Don't misunderstand me. Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator whose execution may well have been deserved. Unfortunately, the same country that installed Saddam, a country currently led by another vile excuse for a human being, orchestrated Saddam's downfall and death. Sadly, there are plenty squabbling, ruthless men eager to take Saddam's place.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/chartier/chartier54.html

 

[EastSea]

I don't know whether Chinese naval forces claimed that or not.
But I do know 9-dotted-line in 1947 was acknowledged by US.

You show USA flag, but lying as chinese do.

 

[shuttler]

really????I thought it was well under Chinese EEZ..

by the way...its under Philippines EEZ as per international rule (200 nautical mile) ...and its distance from Philippines is just 137 nautical miles

the sovereignty of wangyan dao belongs to us! it is within wanyan dao's eez!