Philippine Court clears way for bigger U.S. military role

[Cossack25A1]

Do you want my opinion ? The Supreme Court Ruling ?

The B. Franklin quote and the Supreme Court ruling.

 

[JayMandan]

UNCLOS simply cannot decide Chinese sovereignty. If it thinks that it can decide, we can just throw the decision into the trash can. This is the power of Chinese revolution. Since the win of Chinese revolution, no international court can make decision on Chinese sovereignty. It is difficult for Philippines to understand the power of revolution and civilization.

9 dashed line is only in the map? Chinese armies stationed in all islands within 9 dashed line and put Chinese mark on it. Thieves just came, threw away the marks and thought that those islands were theirs. Thieves would get their punishments.

The same in China. We do whatever we like in SCS, without any consideration of Philippines mood. When you throw away the negotiation table, power will decide who is the winner. You can pretend that you are strong before the bombs come. Philippines will become a battle ground, just the same as Yugoslavia, Iraq, or Syria.

One day Philippines should be divided into three parts. Chinese Philippines, local Philippines and Muslim Phillipines. The separation of Philippines will let Philippines forget SCS and keep the struggles within islands.

Unfortunately, you're just dreaming. Whether you like it or not, China and Philippines will NOT go to war (only Pak-China cheerleaders think otherwise)- it's not Chinese-like. NOT all Filipinos dislike CHINA and it's people. It's just that the MEDIA is brainwashing everyone including the Chinese people for the benefit of their "money" source. Change is coming in the Philippines come next elections and you can expect a leader that is not controlled by the media and this leader will open up new opportunities for everyone. Stop the hate, peace advocate!

 

[Abacin]

Unfortunately, you're just dreaming. Whether you like it or not, China and Philippines will NOT go to war (only Pak-China cheerleaders think otherwise)- it's not Chinese-like. NOT all Filipinos dislike CHINA and it's people. It's just that the MEDIA is brainwashing everyone including the Chinese people for the benefit of their "money" source. Change is coming in the Philippines come next elections and you can expect a leader that is not controlled by the media and this leader will open up new opportunities for everyone. Stop the hate, peace advocate!

I am simply pointing to the fact that Philippine lies in the conflict zone of Chinese civilization, Western Civilization and Islam Civilization. If Philippines are smart, you may balance these civilizations and get benefits from all of them; But if Philippines acts wildly, Philippines can easily tore apart by these civilizations become the battle fields.

A very possible scenario is as follows:
1. Philippines invites more US presense
2. As a response, China turns SCS into military bases and cuts more Philippine presence in SCS
3. Philippine extreme nationalists stir anti-China and cause Massacres of Chinese which happened many times in Philippine history.
4. Chinese government forced by Chinese nationalism take military actions against Philippines, even with US presense. Mostly by providing military equipments to anti-government forces in Philippines and even may back up Philippines Chinese forces.
5. Philippines in civil wars
6. To end the civil wars, China, USA, ASEAN support to divide Philippines into three regions, Chinese dominated, Muslim Dominated and the other.

 

[Aepsilons]

Stop the hate, peace advocate!

The B. Franklin quote and the Supreme Court ruling.

How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.
-George Washington Carver

 

[rott]

"better to have good neighbors than a far off relative" a wise figure once said this.
I don't have a clue how the brain of a pinoy functions.

 

[Abacin]

Many Philippines have forgotten that before China and United States reconciliated in 1971, the whole south Asian were technically in civil wars. The peace of ASEAN is decided by China-USA relations. For those Philippines who think that Philippine can benefit from China-USA conflicts, they are playing fire.

 

[Oldman1]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

Consenting to being an occupied nation, like Korea and Japan, is rather pathetic.

I agree. Syria is pathetic to let Iran and Russia occupy their country.

 

[ahojunk]

I am simply pointing to the fact that Philippine lies in the conflict zone of Chinese civilization, Western Civilization and Islam Civilization. If Philippines are smart, you may balance these civilizations and get benefits from all of them; But if Philippines acts wildly, Philippines can easily tore apart by these civilizations become the battle fields.

A very possible scenario is as follows:
1. Philippines invites more US presense
2. As a response, China turns SCS into military bases and cuts more Philippine presence in SCS
3. Philippine extreme nationalists stir anti-China and cause Massacres of Chinese which happened many times in Philippine history.
4. Chinese government forced by Chinese nationalism take military actions against Philippines, even with US presense. Mostly by providing military equipments to anti-government forces in Philippines and even may back up Philippines Chinese forces.
5. Philippines in civil wars
6. To end the civil wars, China, USA, ASEAN support to divide Philippines into three regions, Chinese dominated, Muslim Dominated and the other.

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That is a very frightening thought if this scenario plays out.

I just hope it won't happen.

 

[jhungary]

I am simply pointing to the fact that Philippine lies in the conflict zone of Chinese civilization, Western Civilization and Islam Civilization. If Philippines are smart, you may balance these civilizations and get benefits from all of them; But if Philippines acts wildly, Philippines can easily tore apart by these civilizations become the battle fields.

A very possible scenario is as follows:
1. Philippines invites more US presense
2. As a response, China turns SCS into military bases and cuts more Philippine presence in SCS
3. Philippine extreme nationalists stir anti-China and cause Massacres of Chinese which happened many times in Philippine history.
4. Chinese government forced by Chinese nationalism take military actions against Philippines, even with US presense. Mostly by providing military equipments to anti-government forces in Philippines and even may back up Philippines Chinese forces.
5. Philippines in civil wars
6. To end the civil wars, China, USA, ASEAN support to divide Philippines into three regions, Chinese dominated, Muslim Dominated and the other.

Am I the only one who laughed out loud after seeing this?

It took a lot more to tear a country up and start a Civil war. The world is not a market where you can just sell what you want you know? Or do you think it's that easy to smuggle large/heavy weaponry to Philippine without both US Navy and Philippine Navy notice?

If you dream about a separated Philippine, then hell may probably freeze over before you see this happening.

@Pinoy @Zero_wing @Cossack25A1

 

[Abacin]

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That is a very frightening thought if this scenario plays out.

I just hope it won't happen.

Apparently this is what the PDF China Platoon really wants - the destruction of the Philippines as a nation-state.

The last one Abacin made in his enumerations shows that he had the same sentiment as Martian2 had - they want a portion of the Philippines as their territory.

Adding to this is the fact that many Chinese members here indirectly supports what the MILF, MNLF, BIFF and NPA are doing here in the Philippines by saying that the PH government is a genocidal entity; sure the PH government has faults, including massacre of the innocent people, but is it right to voice some sort support armed separatist groups when their (Chinese members) country is also experiencing separatist movements and terrorism?

We have seen that the first two steps are happening.
For the 3rd step. In Philippine history, there were six major Chinese massacres. Local Philippines always envy Chinese success and are easily instigated.
For the 4th step, CCP was good at exporting revolutions. CCP has one department called International Department which deals with supporting foreign movements. Before 1971 reconciliation with USA, this department supported many revolutionary military overseas forces, similar to CIA.
For the 5th step, Philippines government doesn't have good records in annihilating rebellion forces.

It is not about sentiments. It is about historical lessons.

If Philippines dream for benefits from China-USA conflicts, you are simply destroying yourself.

 

[Cossack25A1]

We have seen that the first two steps are happening.
For the 3rd step. In Philippine history, there were six major Chinese massacres. Local Philippines always envy Chinese success and are easily instigated.
For the 4th step, CCP was good at exporting revolutions. CCP has one department called International Department which deals with supporting foreign movements. Before 1971 reconciliation with USA, this department supported many revolutionary military overseas forces, similar to CIA.
For the 5th step, Philippines government doesn't have good records in annihilating rebellion forces.

It is not about sentiments. It is about historical lessons.

If Philippines dream for benefits from China-USA conflicts, you are simply destroying yourself.

Yet when it comes in giving better lift standard for the Filipinos by opening the economy to foreign investments so that the professional jobs most Filipinos seek in other countries can be brought here, the said local Chinese community do not want that because it is bad for their own business and would resort in foreigner fear-mongering; they would rather see Filipinos become OFWs (essentially slaves) and go out of the country.

Your statement about CCP exporting revolutions just shows that you support the Maoist New People's Army, and thus you support terrorism. I am pretty sure you hate the Uyghur terrorism, yet you are a hypocrite when you voice support to communist insurgency (basically a form of terrorism) in the Philippines.

Since you said that civil wars is about historical lessons, shouldn't China be wary that sooner or later, she could experience a civil war itself? In China's history if I recall, every time a dynasty falls, the land of Imperial China experience death and destruction due to competing warlords and smaller dynasties, isn't that a civil war? Instead you want a civil war to break in the Philippines. I even bet that the reason you mentioned a civil war scenario aside from "historical lesson" is that you hate Filipinos that you would be happy when you will hear news about how many Filipinos died if a civil war breaks out.

And since when did we express that we would gain anything if USA starts a fight with China? You are over your head when you think that we think that way.

 

[Abacin]

Yet when it comes in giving better lift standard for the Filipinos by opening the economy to foreign investments so that the professional jobs most Filipinos seek in other countries can be brought here, the said local Chinese community do not want that because it is bad for their own business and would resort in foreigner fear-mongering; they would rather see Filipinos become OFWs (essentially slaves) and go out of the country.

Your statement about CCP exporting revolutions just shows that you support the Maoist New People's Army, and thus you support terrorism. I am pretty sure you hate the Uyghur terrorism, yet you are a hypocrite when you voice support to communist insurgency (basically a form of terrorism) in the Philippines.

Since you said that civil wars is about historical lessons, shouldn't China be wary that sooner or later, she could experience a civil war itself? In China's history if I recall, every time a dynasty falls, the land of Imperial China experience death and destruction due to competing warlords and smaller dynasties, isn't that a civil war? Instead you want a civil war to break in the Philippines. I even bet that the reason you mentioned a civil war scenario aside from "historical lesson" is that you hate Filipinos that you would be happy when you will hear news about how many Filipinos died if a civil war breaks out.

And since when did we express that we would gain anything if USA starts a fight with China? You are over your head when you think that we think that way.

Philippines Catholic was built on Chinese blood if you could read your own histories. Without those massacres, Chinese populations would be at least 10 times higher and Confucian, instead of Catholic would be dominant in Philippines. Philippines with belief in Catholic always think that they can kill Chinese under the name of god.

Maoist New People's Army is still a revolutionary guerrilla. The competition of Communism vs. Capitalism is not over yet. When Chinese economy surpasses US economy, you may see the revival of communism. While for Uyghur terrorists, the competition of secular vs. religious is over. Islam fundamentalists only represents mid-eval dark ages, similar to Catholic.

It is Philippines who see the strategic competition among China and USA and introduce China-USA conflicts into SCS and hope to win on SCS through a military competion between China and USa. Now you pretend that you do not think that you can gain from China-USA conflicts because you lose more and more?

 

[Abacin]

Wow again looks like non these imperials read the article or completely irate

It is not about imperialism. It is about conflicts of civilizations. Whether you like it not, the conflicts of civilizations have been proved again and again. Countries who stir up conflicts of civilizations get punished while countries who can balance civilization get rewarded.

Wow again looks like non these imperials read the article or completely irate



let these arrogant SOBs think crap about anyone as far as many of us is concern it's a good thing plus they piss of a lot people with their arrogance so let them peg themselves in conner and let them suffer other period of humiliation but only this time they have themselves to blame the fact is they still to arrogant and too blind to see whats coming to them.

Unfortunately it is you stupid people who are filled with extreme nationalism are suffering humiliations again and again. You have to sell your sovereignty but you gain nothing.

China and United States expand with soft powers and hard powers while Vietnam and Philippines want to expand through stealing.

Unfortunately when you steal from China, you will get your hands cut sooner or later.

 

[Cossack25A1]

Philippines Catholic was built on Chinese blood if you could read your own histories. Without those massacres, Chinese populations would be at least 10 times higher and Confucian, instead of Catholic would be dominant in Philippines. Philippines with belief in Catholic always think that they can kill Chinese under the name of god.

Maoist New People's Army is still a revolutionary guerrilla. The competition of Communism vs. Capitalism is not over yet. When Chinese economy surpasses US economy, you may see the revival of communism. While for Uyghur terrorists, the competition of secular vs. religious is over. Islam fundamentalists only represents mid-eval dark ages, similar to Catholic.

It is Philippines who see the strategic competition among China and USA and introduce China-USA conflicts into SCS and hope to win on SCS through a military competion between China and USa. Now you pretend that you do not think that you can gain from China-USA conflicts because you lose more and more?

Reading your first statement, it just implies that you are no different from the Spanish colonizers since you said that if the Spanish Empire didn't come, the islands that would be Philippines (or whatever Chinese name will be imposed) would be Chinese-dominated, what would become of the Malay natives? Slaves? Minority?

Communism is a lie; even if China becomes the number 1 in global economy, these NPA will still stir trouble and kill people; they are not a mere revolutionary group, they are bandits and terrorists.

What about Vietnam? I am pretty sure they are louder than us Filipinos when protesting the SCS.

And I do not pretend anything, maybe it is you who is pretending, thinking that China can simply do anything and everything without any repercussions.

 

[Abacin]

Wow the theft is calling us the victims criminals that's rich you sound like red neck clans man with the post but if you're so sure its china why not provide evidence and china was given time to do so and the proper channels so far china was only saying that this china sovereign territory without evidence and international support just strong armed tactics both in economy and political now military oh wait just like you right now your peg to a corner now your posting bull like this typical chinese closet coward.



really then prepare to meet Nazi germany and imperial Japan fate obviously you know nothing about history just another empty threat from a nationalist drone

Yes. You can pretend that China is another Germany and Japan. Unfortunately China as a civilization could lead the world in most of world history while the Rise of Germany and Japan was short lived. Chinese wisdom is beyond Germany and Japan. Anytime we fell, we could stand up quickly and get back those stuff stolen by other countries when we fell.