Peshawar to Karachi - Estimated HSR Cost: $33 billion.

[CriticalThought]

the only turd here is you, chickenshit, only good for burying in the soil.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so does a fool to his folly.

 

[MystryMan]

1 a single bus from Peshawar to Karachi takes 45 passengers at max. So if we consider a HSR it will take 1500 passengers in one go. Which means 34 busses will take that many passengers.

Bringing in economies of scale concept yes it will reduce the cost of travel.

It will also hurt economic growth in many areas because many business of retail are located along highways and they earn a lot from passengers.

We first need a railways which can go 160km/hr (used by both passenger and freight) before going HSR way.

 

[Kompromat]

In an alternative universe where we don't want to murder each other, an HSR between Lahore, Delhi, Mumbai & Karachi would've been profitable.

 

[jupiter2007]

It won't be profitable. HSRs are not profitable on most routes except a few and that is why world has abstained from HSRs so far. We need to wait until 5-10 years before thinking about such a project. A much prudent approach is to have dual tracks, advanced signalling system and trains running at 160 kph at higher frequency, modern wagons, once your GDP crosses equivalent of 1 trillion dollars, you can build such HSRs.

Make sense, we don’t have that kind of money for this project. Once we recover looted money from Zardari, we might consider building it. Zardari’d sister is willing to return 8 billion if NRO is offered.

 

[Kabira]

In an alternative universe where we don't want to murder each other, an HSR between Lahore, Delhi, Mumbai & Karachi would've been profitable.

Lahore-Islamabad HSR will be profitable if ever build, even extend to Peshawar. Islamabad-Lahore to Karachi will be in loss. May as well work on making air travel cheaper between north and south.

The reason railway is in loss is because majority of routes are not profitable.

 

[Darth Vader]

I have a different Suggestion


Green Line Which Starts From Gwadar and Goes to China Majority of its Already in Place if Pakistan just upgrades that and add few Track Jacobabad to Dera Ismail Khan
Yellow Cities will Work as Hubs as it will take burden out of Punjab few major advantages that these are already built cities with infrastructure in place just smaller cities so a planned expansion can be done which will help these and build cities surrounding them so it will Connect almost all the country
2 Major Connections Panjgur and Gilgit Can be turned into National & international hubs as They can be used to connect local and National hubs .
Panjgur work as connection between iran , Karachi , Gwadar and rest of Pakistan
Jacoabod work as Connection between rest of country and India as well Afghanistan
Gilgit works as Connection between china , Afghanistan as well as Central asian states
Aqua Lines are the regional Connections to each other as well as connection to hubs
Few Major flaws i found in Current Pakistani System is Majority of its dependent on Punjab which is further away and not feasible also its closer to India enemy state ( in case of war ).
Punjab is already over populated trying to expand that just doesn't makes any sense instead Pakistan needs to build newer planned cities , which supports less travel , better connectivity so Pakistan can sell more goodies , faster and cheaper
@Horus @CriticalThought @Kabira@Indus Pakistan @war&peace@BHarwana

 

[ziaulislam]

In an alternative universe where we don't want to murder each other, an HSR between Lahore, Delhi, Mumbai & Karachi would've been profitable.

had congress not withdrew from cabinet mission 1946

Profitable routes are karachi Hyderabad and lahore Gujarat and possible lahore Islamabad and circular rail pesh mardan charsda nowhsers (70-80km)

Problem is china estimates of construction are very high 30% higher as what Pakistan estimates and thats the rwsosntwhy ML1 is hung up

This with no ToT means that Pakistan probably should opt for asian bank model where asian bank wanted to do it in 3 phases of 2 billion each funded by them and Pakistan

But issue is time...time itself is money

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Well the current plan is great and cheaper then HSR of $33 Billion Rupees

ML-1 will be upgraded and will be dualized under CPEC from Peshawar to Karachi after which the current speed of the trains will reach 160 KM/H reducing the time to travel between Lahore & Karachi by 7 hours and will take 11-12 hours

In recent news South Korea has also shown interest in Upgrading ML-2 & ML-3

So after we upgrade the track that also includes upgradation of Signalling and controlling systems we can introduce trains which can run up to 200-250 KM/H cause the tracks after upgradation will be able to support trains Upto 250 KM/H as proposed initially by the last government (IF THEY STICK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN)

This train can run up to 200 KM/H it will take 7-8 hours to reach Karachi from Lahore reducing time by 10-11 Hours