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It is very unwise to trust a word from Indian news paper about Pakistan.
We all know that P.Musharraf is the last person India want to see as President of Pakistan.
Whole Indian machinery, is working to destablise present Pakistan govt.
SHAM propaganda in Indian news papers is a unit of the same chain.
Indian news papers have even dedicated separator/section on P.Musharraf.:welcome:
This news is self created and its loud beating in every world forum is nothing more than an attempt to hamper Pakistan's ecnomic growth.
This is not new, Indian press has always sought reasons to slander Pakistan's leader ship if they don't find one they creat one.
For example the case of Benazir was published with far more details.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2107/stories/20040409000106000.htm

http://in.news.yahoo.com/031123/43/29pnc.html

Well said Batman!
 
Batman,

India and the world wants Musharraf. He has been the best thing to happen to World in regards to Pakistan

No entirely true mate, Indian think tank and the generals want him to go as they still consider him to be the master mind behind Kargill, someone not to be trusted.

I know a percentage of Indians, certainly the moderate ones would love to see Pakistan proper under Musharraf but the majority doesn't. A weak Pakistan is what the want.
Just a reality check. :smokin:
 
Is this not propoganda the Steal mill needed money to be pumped in so that it runs, it is clear every organisation requires money to run it self, the choice to sell it to Musharrafs relatives for very cheap price and suddenly they could run it better, I am sure this is Propoganda by a dictator media hold.

There are other issues like the sugar price and the mills being sold for the fraction of there real price to relatives of Musharraf to people he likes that shows the reality that it is the Musharraf government who is behind this choas.


If this is a propaganda than this legacy has its roots in Benazir's regime too.
There is a privatisation commisson, responsible for selling any state asset not P.Musharraf.
I think when you mention (unknown) relatives of Musharraf again and again this is propaganda. How come is it possible that you know all those relatives and Indian / Pakistani media don't or N.Sharif / Benazir don't.
You are the only one of a kind who think Benazir is angel.
Go ask the wife or mother of Shanwaz Bhutto, and don't claim that even they know less than you.
Whole world knows Mr.10%. He was a nightmare for the Pakistan's industry, he even did not spared the foreign investors and big international Japanese and European firms.
He was released from Jail, in the regime of P.Musharraf.
All Pakistani importers and exporters had paid to 'cotekna'
I can tell you countless stories how they destryoed Pakistan, there plundered money is only a fraction of the loss what Pakistan has suffered in he regime.
My friend, they have history in Pakistan.
BTW, do you know every plant has its operational life and PSM is way over that. You will not find any inssurance firm in the world willing to inssure any single machine.
The process technology is more than 50 years old (very in-efficient) and same goes with other equipment.
I can go in tiny little details if you wish, as this is associated with my profession.
What this plant is producing can be produced at 30% less cost with new plant. Hence it is very wise to sell it besides there are no restrictions to build more.
 
I know he is the last PERSON Pakistani people want as president.

Speak for yourself bro, Musharraf is quite popular in Pakistan.

I for one am a great and thankfull fan of this great man, he's done more for Pakistan in eight years than all the other presidents together! Look at the mess the country was in before the seized power, compare it with where we are now.
Long Live the President, Long Live Musharraf! :pakistan:
 
Who ever is elected by the people of Pakistan with fair election is the leader of Pakistan give all power to the people that is it.

I have asked purely your opinion, since you claim to knew the least wanted than you should give us the most wanted too.

Go to Pakistan and make your own survey.
 
What corruption are these morons talking about? Our economy was actually declining in the era of those two thugs we had. Now actually we are seeing good progress and development. All these idiots need a reality check before opening their mouth. I rather have a dictator like Musharraf than thugs like Nawaz and Benazir.
 
What corruption are these morons talking about? Our economy was actually declining in the era of those two thugs we had. Now actually we are seeing good progress and development. All these idiots need a reality check before opening their mouth. I rather have a dictator like Musharraf than thugs like Nawaz and Benazir.

Can't make the blind see the progress mate. ;)
 
Musharraf's unfinished agenda

By Ahmed Quraishi

Someone is trying to pull a 'velvet revolution' on Pakistan's Pervez Musharraf. And anyone who believes this is about democracy is a fool.
Many in Washington and inside its inept puppet administration in Kabul are trying to find a scapegoat for their failures in Afghanistan. And a bankrupt and unimaginative Pakistani political class is being opportunistic as usual. Musharraf must counter this with determination. The Pakistani president owes this to the uncounted silent Pakistanis who backed his original reform agenda of 1999.
The events of the last few weeks and months reinforce the notion held by a segment of Pakistanis that restoring a premature democracy in Pakistan in 2002 was a wrong step. It re-empowered a largely mediocre political class, undercut efforts to cultivate grassroots democratic conditions, and disappointed ordinary Pakistanis who dreamed of fundamental change.

Our best bet was an enlightened, guided democracy, giving ordinary Pakistanis the chance to produce new leadership. What we got after 2002 is a half-baked deal. Apart from partially tarnishing President Musharraf's image, his new political 'allies', products of the 2002 election, failed to back him in crucial moments, during an insurgency, for example, by a politician-turned-terrorist in our Balochistan province last year, and during the so-called 'judicial crisis' last month.

President Musharraf hasn't lost the battle. Not yet at least. He must assert power, reunite the silent majority of Pakistanis like he did before, and give his bold reform agenda one last push. He must bank on younger Pakistanis where his popularity is highest. His legacy must be a strong and proud Pakistan and a political culture that is thoroughly reformed of its chronic ills.

Beginning with the visit of US president George W Bush to Pakistan in March 2006, and ending with the events of the weeks following March 9 this year, it's clear that odd bed-fellows with opposing objectives are coming together to unseat one of the most decisive and nationalist presidents our nation has seen in a long time.

The entire anti-Musharraf campaign claims its roots in democracy. That is a brazen lie. Independent Pakistani television networks -- the most visible sign of a vibrant Pakistani civil society -- are a gift of this so-called 'military dictator." In fact, one glance at the quality of leadership of our political elite, especially the one that ruled the country in the 1990s, and the notion it could have had the stomach to unleash and nurture such a free media in Pakistan seems ridiculous at best. No political leader in Pakistan has ever tolerated the kind of criticism President Gen Musharraf is tolerating these days from the independent Pakistani TV stations.
Whether anyone likes to admit it or not, a military-led administration in Pakistan has laid the foundation of a vibrant economic and political liberalisation in the country unlike anything most Pakistanis have seen since the 1960s.

A second misleading claim in this anti-Musharraf campaign is that somehow an 'exiled' secular and democratic Pakistani 'leadership' exists that could do a better job than President Musharraf. If this leadership is so secular and democratic, how come their political parties don't reflect those core values? Why it is that Benazir Bhutto is a 'lifetime chairperson' of her party in the worst tradition of Central African 'banana republics'? Why it is that dissent is unthinkable within the ranks of Mr Nawaz Sharif's own political faction?

The truth is, the worst stereotypes about Pakistan would have come true by now -- Talibanisation, extremist nuclear takeover, disintegration -- had this great nation continued to be governed by politicians of the calibre we have seen in the 1990s. Anyone supporting politicians of this calibre is not serving the cause of democracy in Pakistan.
Our nation needs an enlightened, guided democracy with fundamental changes in its constitution and political culture. And President Musharraf is capable of delivering this agenda. A reform-minded president like him who seized power in extraordinary circumstances -- (his plane was hijacked in the air by a serving prime minister and told to land in India!) --cannot have his hands tied by a set of laws that may simply not be suitable to the country and need to be changed.

Our parliamentary form of government is at the core of the ineffectiveness of the Pakistani political system. Our experience of the 1960s, 1970s, and the present administration should encourage President Musharraf to introduce a robust presidential form of democracy in Pakistan.
After empowering ordinary Pakistanis, women and minorities by setting up local governments across the nation, the Musharraf administration needs to follow up by increasing the administrative units in the country from four provinces into at least a dozen more. This will strengthen Pakistan, improve services, and put an end to narrow ethno-religious politics.

On foreign policy, Washington must clearly be told that our cooperation in the war on terror cannot come at the expense of our people's interests, especially when we have outdone the Americans, NATO and the inept Afghan security forces combined. On Kashmir, the position declared by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz -- trade in exchange for progress on Kashmir -- will positively resonate with millions of Pakistanis. And on Palestine, Musharraf must continue his efforts to bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians on the condition that parties to the conflict must recognise each other's right to exist.

President Musharraf has been trying hard to convince his opponents that he is a liberal democrat. He shouldn't. His opponents will never acknowledge it. That's part of our ailing political culture. To change it, one of the biggest changes the Musharraf administration can bring is to force our political parties to hold internal elections. No party should be eligible to contest elections if the observers of the Election Commission cannot certify that the political party in question held free and fair internal elections.

President Musharraf has given Pakistan the most stable, visionary, and forward looking leadership our nation has seen in years. Single-handedly, he expanded Pakistan's role from being just another South Asian country to a nation playing wider roles in West and Central Asia. In order to get over his recent problems, both real and invented, he needs to go back to the promise that propelled him in the eyes of his compatriots back in October 1999.

That is his unfinished agenda.

The writer is a freelance columnist and a TV show host. Email: [email protected]-

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=50521
 
I know he is the last PERSON Pakistani people want as president.

stop eating space cakes.and specially don't read news after that.but if you must don't pick up Indian news papers:crazy: .

MUsharaf is the best thing that happened to Pakistan.
funny you are anti privatization.yet pro Bhutto.hate to tell ya mate she was the one who wanted to privatize crown corporations in the first place.(couldn't because no body wanted to pay hefty commissions to Mr 10%)
corruption was Bhutto's first name and asifs last name.(Asif was practically bankrupt when he married BIBI.likes to gamble)Mian AKA=engine chore.
privatization saves money billions a year.since mush came in most if not all sanctions have been removed our armed forces have been able to buy and upgrade our defense equipment.we will finally have a descent Air force and navy.Billions are being spent on infrastructure and you can actually see the results.economy is coming along just fine.tax revenue is increasing.foreign investor are taking notice.
Indians cant cry Kashmir card any more.do u think they like that.A week and bankrupt Pakistan is what Indians want.so obviously they will come up with self serving Made up news.

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Bibi and Mian Ganju stole $11 billion from the goverment. The amount was budgeted for development between 1988-1998.
Except for the new Karachi Airport and Lahore-Islamabad highway there's no sign of any other development.
Where did that money go?

Yes, Mian Ganju built an enormous villa in Lahore and Bibi got a new bungalow in Marbella, Spain. :rolleyes:
 
Bibi and Mian Ganju stole $11 billion from the goverment. The amount was budgeted for development between 1988-1998.
Except for the new Karachi Airport and Lahore-Islamabad highway there's no sign of any other development.
Where did that money go?

Yes, Mian Ganju built an enormous villa in Lahore and Bibi got a new bungalow in Marbella, Spain. :rolleyes:

Bus jee bus bohat ho gayi. ganjey ko koi kuch kahey yeh main sun hi nahi sakta

How could u forget the motor way, the nuclear programme and test, the lahore resolution, gwadar port.

Talking about NS villa have u not heard of acres of land Mush has bought in Bani galla
 
Bus jee bus bohat ho gayi. ganjey ko koi kuch kahey yeh main sun hi nahi sakta
Sorry if I hurt your feelings Paa Jee but I hate thieves and criminals! :hitwall:

How could u forget the motor way, the nuclear programme and test, the lahore resolution, gwadar port.
The Motor Way and Lahore Resolution would not have cost more than $1 billion, it comes directly from the Development Portofolio so I give you that.
Nuclear programme otoh is classified, figs are not available nor does it come under the Civil Development Schemes.
Gwadar was only talked about during Mian Ganju, actual work started in 2000 when the contract went to China.

Talking about NS villa have u not heard of acres of land Mush has bought in Bani galla
Please tell me more, how much did it cost? $11 billion?
 
Bus jee bus bohat ho gayi. ganjey ko koi kuch kahey yeh main sun hi nahi sakta

I know why!!! but let me ask you, where were you when, Ghulamn Haider Wayen, (late) GIK Farooq leghari, Naseem Hassan Shah, Benazir and Army cheif, spoke much worst about him.
All his ineptnes and corruptions were discussed on TV, perhaps you missed that, all.

How could u forget the motor way, the nuclear programme and test, the lahore resolution, gwadar port.

How could you forget he ruled almost 20 years (starting from 1985) and before that Pakistan was much better. What about education, health, jobs, housing, defence, foreign relations, International embargos etc. etc. How do you campare it to present regime?????
And now he need to rule more!!! WHY???? Is he a king!!!
Give me the rule for 20 years as I have equall right and more qualification. I will not even ask you to distribute all ministries among my family and I promise to do better.
Actually, I know all development from his era more than what you have described.

Please tell us what was his contribution to neuclear program. Only, that it was prolifirated in his rule under his nose and he did bothered to press the BUTTON.
FYI, Pakistan almost went bankrupt, near the end of his regime Pakistan's currency had no value (I swear). All International trade was done in USD, pak ruppee can be only exchanged in black market @ 1USD=80PKR, now today it is equv. to 60PKR. Can Nawaz sharif do such turn around and bring it dwon to 30PKR (perhaps this was the exchange rate in 1985).
Due to inavialability of USD all industry came to halt. Today number of industries is doubled and every factory owner is producing 200% more as compare to his era.

Have you ever heard a prime minister looted bank, he did, when he froze the foriegn currency accounts, that was the hard earned money of oversees Pakistanis.
My mother lost money and we wanted to register FIR for that burgalary, but we were not allowed. Citizens had no right.
To tell you a story from today, for some reason, I needed duplicate of my birth certificate, since I'm not in Pakistan so I wrote email to the Nazim and the birth certifiate was delivered at my home and I had to thank them back.
In N.Sharif era, there was only one law the tyrant law, Lahore was flourishing with 'Badmash'.
His rule is a long long tale of disaster.

Talking about NS villa have u not heard of acres of land Mush has bought in Bani galla

Is this a justification!!???
 
I have asked purely your opinion, since you claim to knew the least wanted than you should give us the most wanted too.

Go to Pakistan and make your own survey.

I have no need to do that, I can read. Musharraf's sedition would leave another deep scar in Pakistan. Your survey can be seen on TV, news channels, the Internet and its every where Musharraf is most hated among traitors of Pakistan. I dont see opinion when it comes to national interest it must be certain.
 
stop eating space cakes.and specially don't read news after that.but if you must don't pick up Indian news papers:crazy: .

MUsharaf is the best thing that happened to Pakistan.
funny you are anti privatization.yet pro Bhutto.hate to tell ya mate she was the one who wanted to privatize crown corporations in the first place.(couldn't because no body wanted to pay hefty commissions to Mr 10%)
corruption was Bhutto's first name and asifs last name.(Asif was practically bankrupt when he married BIBI.likes to gamble)Mian AKA=engine chore.
privatization saves money billions a year.since mush came in most if not all sanctions have been removed our armed forces have been able to buy and upgrade our defense equipment.we will finally have a descent Air force and navy.Billions are being spent on infrastructure and you can actually see the results.economy is coming along just fine.tax revenue is increasing.foreign investor are taking notice.
Indians cant cry Kashmir card any more.do u think they like that.A week and bankrupt Pakistan is what Indians want.so obviously they will come up with self serving Made up news.

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Stop having wet dreams Musharraf is a traitor a dictator. Recent events do tell you he is the worst thing that has happend to Pakistan he is complete hoax and he only serves his own interest. Don't cite things that have the hallmark of propoganda that was in the interest for dictatorship. By the way Musharraf cannot be elected again he has been in power for two terms (not democratically) and in the constitution you are not allowed a third term. Hence the ousting of the Chief justice.
 
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