Pervez’s regime most corrupt’

[Interceptor]

Pervez’s regime most corrupt’

New York, September 19
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's ongoing second regime has been found to be the most corrupt government the country has ever had. In a survey conducted in all four provinces of Pakistan, as many as 67 per cent of people said Musharraf's second regime beginning 2002 was more corrupt compared to those of former premiers— Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif.

The survey was conducted by the Pakistan chapter of the international anti-corruption organisation “Transparency International” in the urban and semi-urban areas of each of the four provinces of the country. A sample of 4,000 persons was selected in each of these areas.

While 34 per cent of the people interviewed said Nawaz Sharif's second stint (1996-99) was corrupt, as many as 48 per cent were of the opinion that Benazir's second stint (1993-96) was corrupt.

While only 8 per cent of those interviewed said Benazir's first term (1988-90) was corrupt, only 10 percent of those questioned said the first Nawaz Sharif government (1990-93) was corrupt, and in case of Musharraf's first regime (1999-2002) 33 per cent said it was corrupt.

The respondents said citizens had to pay higher bribes to customs, followed by the Land Department, judiciary, taxation, banking, power, education, health, police and railways.

The causes of corruption were identified as low salaries, discretionary powers, influential people, lack of transparency, lack of choice and monopolies, red tape and shortages in demand and supply.

Asked as to which were the most corrupt sectors in the country, 64 per cent named the police, followed by power, judiciary, land, taxation, custom, health, education, railway and banking.

Transparency International is a global network, including more than 90 locally established national chapters and chapters-in-formation. These bodies fight corruption in the national arena in a number of ways.

They bring together relevant players from government, civil society, business and the media to promote transparency in elections, in public administration, in procurement and in business. TI’s global network of chapters and contacts also use advocacy campaigns to lobby governments to implement anti-corruption reforms.— ANI

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060920/world.htm#1

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The recent events show that Musharraf is a very corrupt Dictator the Chief Justice ousting the selling of steal mill and other state owned assets to his relatives.

 

[Keysersoze]

Pervez’s regime most corrupt’

New York, September 19
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's ongoing second regime has been found to be the most corrupt government the country has ever had. In a survey conducted in all four provinces of Pakistan, as many as 67 per cent of people said Musharraf's second regime beginning 2002 was more corrupt compared to those of former premiers— Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif.

The survey was conducted by the Pakistan chapter of the international anti-corruption organisation “Transparency International” in the urban and semi-urban areas of each of the four provinces of the country. A sample of 4,000 persons was selected in each of these areas.

While 34 per cent of the people interviewed said Nawaz Sharif's second stint (1996-99) was corrupt, as many as 48 per cent were of the opinion that Benazir's second stint (1993-96) was corrupt.

While only 8 per cent of those interviewed said Benazir's first term (1988-90) was corrupt, only 10 percent of those questioned said the first Nawaz Sharif government (1990-93) was corrupt, and in case of Musharraf's first regime (1999-2002) 33 per cent said it was corrupt.

The respondents said citizens had to pay higher bribes to customs, followed by the Land Department, judiciary, taxation, banking, power, education, health, police and railways.

The causes of corruption were identified as low salaries, discretionary powers, influential people, lack of transparency, lack of choice and monopolies, red tape and shortages in demand and supply.

Asked as to which were the most corrupt sectors in the country, 64 per cent named the police, followed by power, judiciary, land, taxation, custom, health, education, railway and banking.

Transparency International is a global network, including more than 90 locally established national chapters and chapters-in-formation. These bodies fight corruption in the national arena in a number of ways.

They bring together relevant players from government, civil society, business and the media to promote transparency in elections, in public administration, in procurement and in business. TI’s global network of chapters and contacts also use advocacy campaigns to lobby governments to implement anti-corruption reforms.— ANI

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060920/world.htm#1

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The recent events show that Musharraf is a very corrupt Dictator the Chief Justice ousting the selling of steal mill and other state owned assets to his relatives.

I fully expect this thread to explode when the guys come online

So everyone keep it under control!

 

[ahussains]

The peoples comes after this goverment they are going to be more corrupted ....

This is the old situation here .. think about our selfes what we are giving to the country .

 

[Bull]

Public is never happy with anything and not only that there are going to be a ot of 'open questions ' in that. Rather than doing a survey, its better they do their own ground study and find out.

 

[BATMAN]

It is very unwise to trust a word from Indian news paper about Pakistan.
We all know that P.Musharraf is the last person India want to see as President of Pakistan.
Whole Indian machinery, is working to destablise present Pakistan govt.
SHAM propaganda in Indian news papers is a unit of the same chain.
Indian news papers have even dedicated separator/section on P.Musharraf.
This news is self created and its loud beating in every world forum is nothing more than an attempt to hamper Pakistan's ecnomic growth.
This is not new, Indian press has always sought reasons to slander Pakistan's leader ship if they don't find one they creat one.
For example the case of Benazir was published with far more details.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2107/stories/20040409000106000.htm

http://in.news.yahoo.com/031123/43/29pnc.html

 

[Adux]

Batman,

India and the world wants Musharraf. He has been the best thing to happen to World in regards to Pakistan

 

[Bull]

It is very unwise to trust a word from Indian news paper about Pakistan.
We all know that P.Musharraf is the last person India want to see as President of Pakistan.
Whole Indian machinery, is working to destablise present Pakistan govt.
SHAM propaganda in Indian news papers is a unit of the same chain.
Indian news papers have even dedicated separator/section on P.Musharraf.
This news is self created and its loud beating in every world forum is nothing more than an attempt to hamper Pakistan's ecnomic growth.
This is not new, Indian press has always sought reasons to slander Pakistan's leader ship if they don't find one they creat one.
For example the case of Benazir was published with far more details.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2107/stories/20040409000106000.htm

http://in.news.yahoo.com/031123/43/29pnc.html

There is nobody better suited for West and India that could rule Pakistan. Life is much easier for us now.

 

[Interceptor]

General Pervez Musharraf, the dictator of Pakistan, sat down recently with The Guardian of Britain for an interview to proclaim that he is not a dictator. Musharraf insisted that he is a believer in democracy and his mission is to bring democracy to Pakistan:

Gen Musharraf said his mission was to democratise Pakistan. "My popularity has gone down … but at this moment my country needs me. I’ve put a strong constitutional democratic system in place. That will throw up a successor. I’m a strong believer in democracy."

Like President Bush, General Musharraf believes that democracy can be achieved with the power of the gun. While Mr. Bush is experimenting with gunboat democracy on an international level, General Musharraf is implementing this theory at the domestic level:

"It is ironic that I’m sitting in uniform talking of democracy … but to bring democracy into Pakistan I thought I needed it," he said.

Democracy, according to Musharraf, must be properly nurtured and trained. One key element in Musharraf’s theory of democracy is to ensure that there is no viable opposition. What better way to encourage democracy than to send your opposition leaders packing to a democratic country to learn about democracy:

The leaders of the two main opposition parties, Benazir Bhutto of the Pakistan Peoples party and Nawaz Sharif of the Pakistan Muslim League, are in exile and face arrest if they return home. Meeting in London this week they launched a fresh political alliance and called for western support.

In spite of General Musharraf’s good intentions there are still those that criticize his stewardship of Pakistani democracy. To these unbelievers, he has this to say:

Criticism of his military-driven strategy came from "people who sit in drawing rooms and talk", he said, but added that a political solution was also being sought.

Clearly too much talk is not good for a healthy democratic society. General Musharraf also is nurturing freedom of the press. However, there are times when a General has to take matters into his own hands in dealing with the press. Sacrifices must be made for the sake of democracy:

An American Predator drone fired Hellfire missiles at a house in Bajaur tribal agency in January, killing 18 people but missing their target, al-Qaida’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri. The attack near the Afghan border caused public uproar and brought renewed accusations that Gen Musharraf was a US puppet.

Local journalist Hayatullah Khan, who photographed missile fragments linking the strikes to the US, disappeared four days later and is still missing. A western diplomat said he was probably being held by Pakistani intelligence and may have been mistreated. [Emphasis added by me]

Democracy in Pakistan is a high ideal. To achieve it, General Musharraf understands that he must get tough on some elements in his country. There are terrorists in Pakistan and they must be crushed if democracy is to take hold:

Gen Musharraf defended his tactic of using military force instead of negotiation to quell the violence and said some collateral damage was inevitable when militants’ hideouts were attacked.

"We take extreme care to be 100% sure of the target from all sources of intelligence … There is minimum collateral damage. If someone happens to be very close to [the target], that somebody is an abetter and they suffer the loss. Sometimes, indeed, women and children have been killed but they have been right next to the place. It’s not that the strike was inaccurate but they happen to be there, so therefore they are all supporters and abetters of terrorism - and therefore they have to suffer. It’s bad luck," he said. [Emphasis added by me.]

There is no doubt that supporters and abetters of terrorism must be snuffed out. You certainly do not want to take any chances that a 2 year old (who is clearly already supporting terrorists) might one day grow up and become really dangerous. General Musharraf is, if nothing else, thorough. He will not only kill you, but he will kill your entire family, to ensure that freedom remains on the march.

General Musharraf also has a good handle on unrest in Pakistan. He has assessed the situation and decided that it is well in hand. He has also determined that his enemies are pygmies:

Gen Musharraf also played down unrest in the resource-rich province of Baluchistan, where nationalist militants are blowing up gas pipelines and trains and attacking army positions. He described the rebels as "mercenaries" and their attacks as "pin pricks", and said the disturbances were confined to one-twentieth of the province’s area.

"So what revolt are you talking about? People talk about an East Pakistan situation," he said, referring to the secession of Bangladesh in 1971. "I understand strategy. These people are pygmies."

With General Musharraf in charge of the effort to bring democracy to Pakistan, I feel that Mr. Bush’s vision of bringing democracy to the Muslim world is well on its way to fruition. It is reassuring to know that we have allied ourselves with such a courageous patriot and a lover of freedom and the rights of man. My hat is off to this thug named Musharraf.

http://www.docstrangelove.com/2006/04/28/the-thuggery-of-pervez-musharraf/

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[Interceptor]

It is very unwise to trust a word from Indian news paper about Pakistan.
We all know that P.Musharraf is the last person India want to see as President of Pakistan.
Whole Indian machinery, is working to destablise present Pakistan govt.

I know he is the last PERSON Pakistani people want as president.

 

[BATMAN]

The recent events show that Musharraf is a very corrupt Dictator the Chief Justice ousting the selling of steal mill and other state owned assets to his relatives.

Ousting of CJ was actually an attempt to eradicate corruption from highest level. There are charges against him.
If P.Musharraf was corrupt than why ousted CJ, did not proved it while he had the authority or why did he accepted the position on the first place in a corrupt govt.
In past there are examples of Naseem Hassan shah, Farooq Legari, (late) GIK, have you ever came across there views!
What is wrong with selling of an obsolete steel mill and how do you connect P.Musharraf with it.

 

[BATMAN]

I know he is the last PERSON Pakistani people want as president.

Please, also tell us who is most desired of Pakistani people.

 

[Interceptor]

Ousting of CJ was actually an attempt to eradicate corruption from highest level. There are charges against him.
If P.Musharraf was corrupt than why ousted CJ, did not proved it while he had the authority or why did he accepted the position on the first place in a corrupt govt.
In past there are examples of Naseem Hassan shah, Farooq Legari, (late) GIK, have you ever came across there views!
What is wrong with selling of an obsolete steel mill and how do you connect P.Musharraf with it.

The Chief Justice is the supereme of the government and therefore you cant oust him in any sense that is not possible but (GEN) Musharraf has made it possible that is corrupt.

Selling the Steal mill its obsolete you are kookoo if you think that steal mill is obsolete. Why is he selling the Steal mill to his relatives and how can he just start selling assets of the Pakistan government, he has no right at all to do that this the property of the Pakistani people this there tax money that went into the assets, its a shame he did it.

 

[Interceptor]

Please, also tell us who is most desired of Pakistani people.

Who ever is elected by the people of Pakistan with fair election is the leader of Pakistan give all power to the people that is it.

 

[kidwaibhai]

ok dude you are clearly a socialist so to convince you would be hard but just take this into consideration. the steel mill was costing the government money they actually had to pump in more money to keep it afloat. that is why they wanted to sell it. so that they could spend money on PSDP than on this mill
one thing i believe is that it is not the job the of the any government to do business but its job is to govern.

 

[Interceptor]

ok dude you are clearly a socialist so to convince you would be hard but just take this into consideration. the steel mill was costing the government money they actually had to pump in more money to keep it afloat. that is why they wanted to sell it. so that they could spend money on PSDP than on this mill
one thing i believe is that it is not the job the of the any government to do business but its job is to govern.

Is this not propoganda the Steal mill needed money to be pumped in so that it runs, it is clear every organisation requires money to run it self, the choice to sell it to Musharrafs relatives for very cheap price and suddenly they could run it better, I am sure this is Propoganda by a dictator media hold.

There are other issues like the sugar price and the mills being sold for the fraction of there real price to relatives of Musharraf to people he likes that shows the reality that it is the Musharraf government who is behind this choas.