Pervez Hoodbhoy's Secular Delusion

[Desert Fox]

1. Actually, yes, lmao. Two lions can coexist in the same den.
Two superpowers can also coexist in a region, example is Russia and China.
And two stars do also coexist in the same galaxy, they're called double star systems.

1) show me where in the natural wilderness two rival lions peacefully coexisting

2) Russia and China's "coexistence" is contigent on their rivalry with another superpower, ie United States. Ever heard of the Sino-Soviet rivalry in the Communist bloc? Thanks for proving my point

3) yeah two stars coexist in a galaxy without any intelligent lifeform which proves my earlier point:

"There is only one God, because LOGIC dictates that if there were more than one God, then we wouldn't exist because more than one and equally powerful gods would constantly be at war or competition with each other and something as consistent and complimentary as the natural environment and intelligent creation wouldn't be able to exist in such a chaotic environment."

And we're talking about something which is intelligent, you can't equate a 'God' to something as stupid as a lion, or to something as inanimate as a star.

Unfortunately I have to resort to such examples to declutter your illogical liberal secular infested mind. Seems like no progress is being made.

Logically speaking, two 'Gods' can indeed exist cooperatively, or non cooperatively. Both scenarios exist and 'logically' are plausible. And this is the issue with this belief, and lack of rigority in it.

No they're not and this isn't logical for reasons I have already explained and will not bother to repeat if you failed to comprehend the most basic logical facts of reality.

Also, learn the 99 names of Allah, he is al-Wahid, The One and Only.

2. Pakistan is not here as a result of secular, or liberal, domination. For nearly the entirety of its history, its people, its law, and its narrative has been heavily influenced by religion.

Yeah, like sure Pakistan has a Khalifa and is not a Nation State or a Republic (both secular concepts) and all of its present and past leaders were graduates of Al-Azhar university right?

. My question is that why must we force the much-more restrictive religious defintion of morality on each person

Because man-made morality leads to millions of people being starved to death, nukes dropped in civilians, chemical and biological testing on live targets, and sex with animals being made permissable.

What is it with your fixation on embarrassing yourself trying to rationalize the irrational (Liberal Secularism)??

 

[The Accountant]

Okay, so you endorse honour killings.

Honor killing is something else. Its personal revenge death penalty and lashes is the islamic way

 

[Lincoln]

Seculars have had a long chance in Pakistan. Other than Zia and the present government, we have had one secular government after another since Jinnah passed away.

It's time to give a different approach a try - but the secular liberals are foaming at the mouth and won't let the Islamic Republic of Pakistan be Islamic!

Lmao. You know nothing about history of Pakistan. If you love it and Islam so much, you can start by advocating for the return of East Pakistan.

Honor killing is something else. Its personal revenge death penalty and lashes is the islamic way

That's indeed honour killing. It's the same thing.

 

[truthfollower]

Adopt islam

shia islam or sunni or wahabi or................

 

[El Sidd]

It's the same thing.

Looks like a governance issue to me.

God advocates Sex not Forbid it. Just have to follow SOPs which are quite loosely defined as well.

Science objects against women having more than one sexual partner as well. Must be Mullah science

 

[Lincoln]

1) show me where in the natural wilderness two rival lions peacefully coexisting

2) Russia and China's "coexistence" is contigent on their rivalry with another superpower, ie United States. Ever heard of the Sino-Soviet rivalry in the Communist bloc? Thanks for proving my point

3) yeah two stars coexist in a galaxy without any intelligent lifeform which proves my earlier point:

"There is only one God, because LOGIC dictates that if there were more than one God, then we wouldn't exist because more than one and equally powerful gods would constantly be at war or competition with each other and something as consistent and complimentary as the natural environment and intelligent creation wouldn't be able to exist in such a chaotic environment."



Unfortunately I have to resort to such examples to declutter your illogical liberal secular infested mind. Seems like no progress is being made.

No they're not and this isn't logical for reasons I have already explained and will not bother to repeat if you failed to comprehend the most basic logical facts of reality.

Also, learn the 99 names of Allah, he is al-Wahid, The One and Only.

Yeah, like sure Pakistan has a Khalifa and is not a Nation State or a Republic (both secular concepts) and all of its present and past leaders were graduates of Al-Azhar university right?


Because man-made morality leads to millions of people being starved to death, nukes dropped in civilians, chemical and biological testing on live targets, and sex with animals being made permissable.

What is it with your fixation on embarrassing yourself trying to rationalize the irrational (Liberal Secularism)??

My points still answer that. You will keep repeating, so there's nothing more to add. You can have the last say. Have a nice day.

 

[The Accountant]

Lmao. You know nothing about history of Pakistan. If you love it and Islam so much, you can start by advocating for the return of East Pakistan.



That's indeed honour killing. It's the same thing.

Lmao. You know nothing about history of Pakistan. If you love it and Islam so much, you can start by advocating for the return of East Pakistan.



That's indeed honour killing. It's the same thing.

No honor killing do not require prove. For islamic penalty u need to prove to judge of adultry

 

[ummahone]

shia islam or sunni or wahabi or................

Quran

 

[ummahone]

My points still answer that. You will keep repeating, so there's nothing more to add. You can have the last say. Have a nice day.

What is your definition of God?

 

[The Accountant]

shia islam or sunni or wahabi or................

Quranic islam.

 

[truthfollower]

foaming at the mouth

lol people can see what people are foaming at the mouth and giving death threats and using bad words and what not lol

 

[Desert Fox]

My points still answer that. You will keep repeating, so there's nothing more to add. You can have the last say. Have a nice day.

Lol, run away like a typical Libturd.

I swear you lot are the most dumb and retarded cretins on this earth. Darwin's evolution at work I guess.

Belief in Allah and His messengers is the most logical and rational belief that BILLIONS the world over easily accept because it is logical and rational.

The few defective morons who deny this are the dead-end of their family tree which is why atheists and secularists have little to no offspring. Survival of the fittest I guess, right?

 

[Ocelot]

Just like there's no Left in India - who has the same agenda as the Right Wing, albeit differing on the strategy to attain the goals of the agenda - unfortunately there's no true liberal Left in Pakistan either. These are just pseudo-liberals whose real purpose is to look after American interest in the region and receive funding. Keep in mind that even Hussain Haqqani was a Jamatia at one point.

As far as Hoodbhoy is concerned, the guy just hates Imran Khan. When PTI came to power he issued them a litmus test to free QAU's land from the clutches of PPP's Nayyar Bukhari. After Shehryar Afridi & DC Islamabad did the job, not a single word of praise came from Hoodbhoy.

 

[Psychic]

and how is that different from shia or sunni or wahabi islam..........................

American secularism is different from German secularism which is different from French secularism which is different from Indian secularism.

Hope you won't bother us anymore.

 

[El Sidd]

and how is that different from shia or sunni or wahabi islam..........................

Didn't you ask which one of these? If you know they are the same why ask rhetorical questions?