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Persian or Arabian Gulf? Iran, Saudi fight over name

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What's in a name? History, politics and pride. Tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia have been escalating on many fronts — over wars in Syria and Yemen, the Saudis' execution of a dissident Shia cleric and the Iran nuclear deal. The dispute runs so deep that the regional rivals — one a Shia theocracy, the other a Sunni monarchy — even clash over the name of the body of water that separates them.


Is it the Persian Gulf ? Or the Arabian Gulf ? Iran insists that it be called the Persian Gulf, and has banned publications that fail to use that name. Yet this riles Arab nations, which have succeeded in pushing various parties to use their preferred term — Arabian Gulf.




This may be among the most minor of the disputes, but it speaks to the level of hostility and competition between the two, and is taken quite seriously by many with an interest in the region — including the United States Navy, which, for fear of alienating its regional allies, uses the term Arabian Gulf.
Why does it matter? In a world where these two adversaries are trying to outmaneuver each other to be the regional superpower, a name can be powerful. Persian Gulf has been used throughout history, in maps, documents and diplomacy, from the ancient Persians, whose empire dominated the region, to the Greeks and the British.




The push to call it the Arabian Gulf gathered steam during the Pan-Arab nationalist movement of the late 1950s, propelled by President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, the historian Lawrence G Potter wrote in the 'The Persian Gulf in History'. In the 1960s, Arab countries made Arabian Gulf compulsory, and the Gulf Cooperation Council uses it. The United Nations uses Persian Gulf. A 2006 paper by a United Nations working group found unanimity in historical documents on the term, which it said was coined by the Persian king Darioush in the fifth century BC.



As far as the US government is concerned, the body of water is the Persian Gulf, per theboard on geographic names. Google Maps shows both terms, with Arabian Gulf in parentheses.

Persian or Arabian Gulf? Iran, Saudi fight over name - Times of India
 
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The Islamic Solidarity Games 2010 were cancelled because of this minor issue. Anyways if Arabs get to name the Gulf after themselves then I think we Pakistanis should claim the Arabian Sea :D

How about Islamic Gulf ? Issue solved :D

Then they will start fighting over shia sunni. Iran will say Shia Islamic Gulf, Saudi will say Sunni Islamic Gulf :lol:
 
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Persian Gulf has been used throughout history, in maps, documents and diplomacy, from the ancient Persians, whose empire dominated the region, to the Greeks and the British.

The push to call it the Arabian Gulf gathered steam during the Pan-Arab nationalist movement of the late 1950s, propelled by President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt

The article answers its own question.
 
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People think this is a Shia-Sunni thing... It's not! Many Arab countries have been promoting the virulent, outright racist pan-arab ideology, long before the virulent, outright bigoted takfiri ideology became the norm. The hateful message and the targeting of others is the same.

It's not the name that's significant. Iranians don't receive royalties because a historical body of water is named after them. It's just a name like the Arabian Sea or the Gulf of Oman. But these brainwashed hateful zombies cannot live with that. They hate us, they hate our our history, our culture, our holidays, our names and anything that goes with it.

How can we live peacefully with such hateful zombies? And then people get all pissy because Iran tries to contol the situation around it. If we don't control the crazy Arabs they will be at us again tomorrow or the day after...
 
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Arabs are here being too greedy,Come on there is a sea named after them .. Arabian Sea.

Still not content with it ?
 
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Given that the rulers of Iran are Levantine Arabs and not Persians, the point is moot.
 
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People think this is a Shia-Sunni thing... It's not! Many Arab countries have been promoting the virulent, outright racist pan-arab ideology, long before the virulent, outright bigoted takfiri ideology became the norm. The hateful message and the targeting of others is the same.

It's not the name that's significant. Iranians don't receive royalties because a historical body of water is named after them. It's just a name like the Arabian Sea or the Gulf of Oman. But these brainwashed hateful zombies cannot live with that. They hate us, they hate our our history, our culture, our holidays, our names and anything that goes with it.

How can we live peacefully with such hateful zombies? And then people get all pissy because Iran tries to contol the situation around it. If we don't control the crazy Arabs they will be at us again tomorrow or the day after...

Will you two just spark the flame and go to war already. :drag:

We're all tired of these of sissy proxy wars where innocent people are used as pawns to die for your interests while your people sit comfortably at home reaping the benefits. Stop bitching and deal with each other.
 
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Will you two just spark the flame and go to war already. :drag:

We're all tired of these of sissy proxy wars where innocent people are used as pawns to die for your interests while your people sit comfortably at home reaping the benefits. Stop bitching and deal with each other.

I'm sorry that you don't like it. I'm not crazy about the situation either. Iran has paid a very heavy price for being at the receiving end of your crazy brothers. But we're not going anywhere. So unfortunately that's the way it has to be until you learn right and wrong. It's gonna be a long process. So I suggest you become more patient....
 
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