Parachinar protest ends after successful talks with army chief

[M. Sarmad]

Q1. Why do Iran Hire them for?
Q2. Name some Militant Organizations that are involved in Sucide Bombings Bomb Blasts and Activities like APS or Mehran Base and are backed by Iran or are from Irani Shia Maslaq.
Q3. If There are no such organizations exist as asked in Q3 then that means Iran is backing some Salafi Terror Gangs in Pakistan? I thought Iran is a shia state and only support shias.

I would like to be informed and add to my knowledge of exactly what logic you and many members of this thinking follow that i always failed to understand.


What do you mean by Irani Terror in Pakistan sir?
Can you please Elaborate which suicide bombing and Civilian mass killing Organizations are supported by Iran?
I mean like Tehreek e Taliban, Lashkar e Jhangvi, Tehreek e Nafaz e Shariat e Muhammadi, Jamaat ul ahraar, Jundullah, Lashkar e Islam Etc. Kindly name Some Jamaat like this supported by Iran I have searched so hard in news but couldnt find one

Rest assured your questions will remain unanswered

Forget the Extremists and Saudi bootlickers, the self-claimed "Neutral" majority in our country is suffering from "Blame the Both Sides Syndrome" without realizing that this kind of behavior/attitude actually promotes injustice and oppression. Their "Political Correctness" is doing more harm than good.

You are asking for proof of involvement of Iranian trained Pakistani militants in the ongoing Terrorism in Pakistan ?? You must be an Iranian Agent !!

Can't argue with that logic, now can we?

 

[Kabira]

I remember it all. And that was out of their hatred for Wahabi/Deobandi Jihadists, not for the love of Pakistan.

Lal Masjid was a very serious issue, which was manhandled by local administration and Parvez Musharraf's immature leadership in this regard. That issue could easily be settled by nipping the evil in the bud through covert operations. Why let a small seedling of mischief grow into a big tree?

Obviously they were not going to join TTP being shias. But TTP did target them specifically more then any other tribe of FATA. For other tribes it was more like you are with us or against us. But for shias that didn't matter.

 

[Zhukov]

Ohh sorry, govt banned them so they are doing nothing along with Zanbyion and sipah mukhtar and list goes on for holy terrorists, may the toungs burn who name them as terrorists


Don't be angry kidous. Once Iranian mulla (Foreign minister) visited Germany, along with Iranian students I threw .... on him

Sipah e Mukhtar? You are talking about That faisal Raza Abidi Group?
That is a terrorist organisation bro? I mean seriously? take a look at LEJ Taliban Jandullah those are how terrorist organisations are like. Attacking coordinated strikes on army bases. Killing thousands of soldiers mass murdering civilians in sucide bombing killing school children.
you consider that karachi based group Sipah mukhtaar as a terrorist organisation?

And what is zainabion? No such thing exists in Pakistan. I believe there is a group in Syria with this name that is an Afghan bases militia fighting against ISIIS and Alnusra along in support of Syrian Government that also have Pakistani fighters. Talking about that Zainabion brigade? What does that syrian war have to do with Pakistan? Never heard of a bomb blast by syrian zynabion in Pakistan.

correct me in above information if i am unaware of any activity of these two that is refer to a terror attack in Pakistan by these two.

And what is the rest of thr list that goes on please share.

 

[Zhukov]

Rest assured your questions will remain unanswered

Forget the Extremists and Saudi bootlickers, the self-claimed "Neutral" majority in our country is suffering from "Blame the Both Sides Syndrome" without realizing that this kind of behavior/attitude actually promotes injustice and oppression. Their "Political Correctness" is doing more harm than good.

You are asking for proof of involvement of Iranian trained Pakistani militants in the ongoing Terrorism in Pakistan ?? You must be an Iranian Agent !!

Can't argue with that logic, now can we?

We need to counter this behavior by Society and step forward.
That mindless attitude of 80s.
I mean they started to see people by what religion they follow that was basis of love and hate till 70s.
Then it transformed to Which sects you follow.
Then evolution took to Bloodshed on this basis you are from this sect you are from that.
And now foreign policy matters are being settled on this baseless mindless discrimination.

Educated masses should speak out now. Peacefully engage this Mulla created havoc idealogy. It has no bases and it is smashed to pieces within 4 to 5 questions.

Arguments on public forums are for the public to read and learn the truth. Not for the ones who dont want to learn [emoji4]

 

[CHI RULES]

Sir, unfortunately our words may spread sectarian divide and hatred only as I suppose most of people here are ordinary people no role in either in sectarian violence or stopping it. People at least Sunni are friends with both Shia and Wahabis. Even I have got my relatives some of them belong to Wahabi sect and few got relations to Shias.

My point here is neither Shia nor Whabis have majority in the country so u can't dictate your terms. If sanity prevails we should work to strengthen our religion instead of indulging in sectarian comments. Ordinary Sunnis who go to KSA get shit, they work more and paid less. In Iran case to be honest Sunnis of Pakistan at least in majority are afraid to visit and or so called brotherly country despite having a number of embassies and Khana firhang/cultural centers is not ready to promote economic ties with Sunnis. Fact remains fact that no on is agent of any country.

People here have no courage to condemn their favorite country and that's the point in spreading sectarian violence. We should think as Muslim and Pakistani first then as Shia or Wahabi. If we refuse to listen hate speech in a Mosque/or Imam Bargah then and only then we can save our country.

We should stop every sectarian activity or any recruitment going on in our country for foreign powers.

Please close this thread as it has become a play ground for sectarian vultures.

 

[BATMAN]

My point here is neither Shia nor Whabis have majority in the country so u can't dictate your terms.

Shia ALWAYS dictate terms in Pakistan and according to my calculation they are majority.

They can raid any place, slaughter people and walk away free.
They can accuse army/ISI and get away with it.
They can bring fanaticism in streets and get away with it.
They can abuse public in public and getaway with it.
They can go on (so called) wahabi killing in Iraq and Syria and get away with it.
Zardari can tell publically he will destroy army and can get away with it.
No killing of Pakistanis get as much attention and discussion as Parachinar attacks got, though it clearly was inside job to save Iran.
Who the hell are Shia to dictate terms and abuse and accuse people in Pakistan?
If Shia can dictate CoAS to replace officer in charge 'col. Omer'. Situations like these must be alarming for those who are hated most by Shia.
I can clearly see Indian cold start in action.
This is why I keep saying, pilot who shot Iranian drone must be protected.

Now kindly point at wahabi group in Pakistan?

 

[!eon]

Yes I mean seriously, that group was involved in Pindi incident
Shia organisations act like Iranian's intel hand in Pakistan. No organisation like this takes any kind of responsibility of their any act. Have you seen RAW, Afghan intel claiming any responsibility ? Similar is example of Iranian intel. From where did Uzair Bloach get Iranian passport ?
Only salafi groups in world are more than willing to take responsibilities of acts to show them powerful. That's the main difference between shia and salafi groups

Lol no Zynabion exits in Pakistan as it's not register in NADRA database. Look at your fellow shia member comments above about Zainbioun

There are voices in FATA that Iranians are involved in blast of Kurram as they wanted to get rid of Commandant FC.

Sipah e Mukhtar? You are talking about That faisal Raza Abidi Group?
That is a terrorist organisation bro? I mean seriously? take a look at LEJ Taliban Jandullah those are how terrorist organisations are like. Attacking coordinated strikes on army bases. Killing thousands of soldiers mass murdering civilians in sucide bombing killing school children.
you consider that karachi based group Sipah mukhtaar as a terrorist organisation?

And what is zainabion? No such thing exists in Pakistan. I believe there is a group in Syria with this name that is an Afghan bases militia fighting against ISIIS and Alnusra along in support of Syrian Government that also have Pakistani fighters. Talking about that Zainabion brigade? What does that syrian war have to do with Pakistan? Never heard of a bomb blast by syrian zynabion in Pakistan.

correct me in above information if i am unaware of any activity of these two that is refer to a terror attack in Pakistan by these two.

And what is the rest of thr list that goes on please share.

Commandant Umer is a nobody.. neither does Iran border Kurram.

Commandant Umer was somebody that's why his name is on top of demand letter.

There's no need of border for activity. Kurram is hub of Iranian recruitment and training. There was news some months back about Pakistan Army destroying a training camp.

The demands like compensation for victims.

Bringing back Kurram scouts.

Beefing up security by army.

Sealing the border.

Etc are fair.

I never said they are not fair.
only
Bringing back Kurram scouts as lone force and leaving FC out of role will bring Iranians on driving seat in Kurram.

Every Pukhtoon is eastern iranic he has more in common with them then You.

Pukhtoons don't need you or your kind we are ok by ourselves you just concentrate on bettering yourselves.

We know the status of pukhtoons not long ago racial profiling in pindi, dollars for drones and so on, my cousins Baloch even got it better then us target killings, dissapearences & so on.

Here comes wali khan group how's easy load baba of Mardan Par Hoti ?

Well elders in South Waziristan are more convince about Jews ancestry. Anyway I m not interested in that topic you can dig deeper and live there in depth.

Pashtuns are living happily in Pindi

 

[Imad.Khan]

After going through this thread i can say that i am extremely disappointed and truly disgusted by what i have read. I saw Pakistanis die in 3 different locations (Quetta, Parachinar and Bhawalpur) but instead of empathy i see hatred. Innocent lives were lost and instead of giving a shoulder to cry i see people giving cold shoulders. People are in pain and instead of a helping hand i see fingers being pointed. I thought members on PDF are from the educated section of our society but after reading this thread it looks like ignorance is more common than common sense.

Quaid-e-Azam would be turning in his grave today for he did not make Pakistan so that Muslims of different sects can go around abusing each other without hesitation.

Shame on you all

@WebMaster @Horus Please close this thread full of sectarian and ethnic hatred.

 

[Zhukov]

Yes I mean seriously, that group was involved in Pindi incident
Shia organisations act like Iranian's intel hand in Pakistan. No organisation like this takes any kind of responsibility of their any act. Have you seen RAW, Afghan intel claiming any responsibility ? Similar is example of Iranian intel. From where did Uzair Bloach get Iranian passport ?
Only salafi groups in world are more than willing to take responsibilities of acts to show them powerful. That's the main difference between shia and salafi groups

Lol no Zynabion exits in Pakistan as it's not register in NADRA database. Look at your fellow shia member comments above about Zainbioun

There are voices in FATA that Iranians are involved in blast of Kurram as they wanted to get rid of Commandant FC.




Commandant Umer was somebody that's why his name is on top of demand letter.

There's no need of border for activity. Kurram is hub of Iranian recruitment and training. There was news some months back about Pakistan Army destroying a training camp.


I never said they are not fair.
only
Bringing back Kurram scouts as lone force and leaving FC out of role will bring Iranians on driving seat in Kurram.


Here comes wali khan group how's easy load baba of Mardan Par Hoti ?

Well elders in South Waziristan are more convince about Jews ancestry. Anyway I m not interested in that topic you can dig deeper and live there in depth.

Pashtuns are living happily in Pindi

Even if they dont take responsibility there must be some incidents realted to them that is in your knowledge bro that i dont know of. I was asking to name some as reference. Some incidents along with the Jamaats responsible for them.
Uzair baloch is a terrorist? I thought he was a criminal backed by PPP. Gangster and Criminal of Karachi Gang war. Its a different story in karachi. What does it have to do with terrorism?
And whatever this Zainabion Pakistan is what are there motives in Pakistan and activities done by them. I thought it was a Syrian organization.
You still haven't answered my queries.
If you are so confident that these Shias are a threat to our beloved countries and they have terror networks in Our country similar to salafi jamaats then there must be some concrete evidence of this claim against this community.
Or just sectarian hatred on just difference of opinion on historical events that have no relevance at all in modern age.
You are sure that like all these Salafi and Deoband Inspired militant organizations that are slaughtering Pakistanis and Fighting with armed forces ie taliban Jashkar e Jhangvi etc. There are equally powered Shia Jamaats having similar motives as well who are doing similar activities i.e Killing innocent public for no reason in bomb blasts Suicide bombing and fighting our armed forces.
I am just trying to understand on what facts and basis this theory is based on.
Just a learner on Pakistan Socio Politics thats all

 

[Big Tank]

FC is not involved in killing. So far no confirmation as many sources as I checked with. As soon as there is some proof of the allegations I will post that.

Secondly law enforcement agencies be these police or FC or army at times do fire to disperse protesters so it does not mean they aim to kill particular sect.

This is biased, lame and propaganda usage of the situation by shias from other parts of Pakistan specially the Punjabi shias or those from Karachi which is harmful for the people of Parachinar .

Col Umar has been already sent for Court Martial. Propaganda eh?

 

[M. Sarmad]

FACT:

In the ongoing terrorism in Pakistan,
Thousands of innocent Shia civilians have been killed by Deobandi/Wahhabi militants in targeted attacks.
No innocent Wahhabi/Deobandi civilian has been killed by Shia militants



PROPAGANDA:

Shia are not being specifically targeted ..... 'both sides' are to be blamed... both sides are equally wrong
Pakistani Shia themselves are also 'responsible' as they are pro-Iranian, and Iran is an enemy state
Anyone who questions this narrative, his patriotism and loyalty to Pakistan are doubtful as he is deliberately trying to fan sectarianism and create social unrest in the country.

 

[SubWater]

after reading this topic, some guys in Pakistan want to blame others for their faults.
Guys we are neighbor, your safety is our safety and our safety is yours too.
and you are blaming Iran for bomb which explode in Pakistan and killed mostly Shia of Pakistan.
come back and fix your policy in region and toward your neighbors.
Pakistan joined Wahabi Nato of Saudi to act against other muslim countries such as Iran, Yemen, Turkey, Qatar and every country which don't want go under Saudi Slavery.

 

[!eon]

Though I haven't completely read your long reply as I don't enjoy leisure like you, but one thing is clear that you would be presenting your sect as an angel and your opponents as devils like in your previous posts.

What can be expected if you even deny presence of groups in Pakistan which Iranians are proud of, and proudly present their events on their media. BTW your English reveals you are much younger and full of mulla's enthusiasm.

Even if they dont take responsibility there must be some incidents realted to them that is in your knowledge bro that i dont know of. I was asking to name some as reference. Some incidents along with the Jamaats responsible for them.
Uzair baloch is a terrorist? I thought he was a criminal backed by PPP. Gangster and Criminal of Karachi Gang war. Its a different story in karachi. What does it have to do with terrorism?
And whatever this Zainabion Pakistan is what are there motives in Pakistan and activities done by them. I thought it was a Syrian organization.
You still haven't answered my queries.
If you are so confident that these Shias are a threat to our beloved countries and they have terror networks in Our country similar to salafi jamaats then there must be some concrete evidence of this claim against this community.
Or just sectarian hatred on just difference of opinion on historical events that have no relevance at all in modern age.
You are sure that like all these Salafi and Deoband Inspired militant organizations that are slaughtering Pakistanis and Fighting with armed forces ie taliban Jashkar e Jhangvi etc. There are equally powered Shia Jamaats having similar motives as well who are doing similar activities i.e Killing innocent public for no reason in bomb blasts Suicide bombing and fighting our armed forces.
I am just trying to understand on what facts and basis this theory is based on.
Just a learner on Pakistan Socio Politics thats all

 

[Zhukov]

Though I haven't completely read your long reply as I don't enjoy leisure like you, but one thing is clear that you would be presenting your sect as an angel and your opponents as devils like in your previous posts.

What can be expected if you even deny presence of groups in Pakistan which Iranians are proud of, and proudly present their events on their media. BTW your English reveals you are much younger and full mulla's enthusiasm.

Again just disrespects.
And "Your Sect".
Anyways Stay blessed.

 

[!eon]

Again just disrespects.
And "Your Sect".
Anyways Stay blessed.

No disrespect. Only I have mentioned the behavior "MY SECT IS ANGEL, MY ENEMY IS DEVIL"

wahabi/al e hadees/salafi is a sect. If the word wahabi is used as an abuse, and whole wahabi sect is evil then if called vice versa why it's disrespect ? Just a question.
Though I have never showed any disrespect for any sect.

My basic point was "with continues foreign terror activity peace is not possible, be kurram or any other place" and I think I am repeating it 10th time now.

But some people are too touchy about Iran and Iranian mulla