Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[ghazi52]

Haroon Rasheed Telling Inside Story Over Panama Verdict

 

[PakSword]

Constitution allows him due legal process that includes investigation

Moral dishonesty tou prove hogaee.. 62/ 63 main kahan likha hai legal aur moral ke baaray main?

Dishonesty is dishonesty.. Main ne tou bachpan se yehi seekha hai.. ke jhoot na bolo chahay iss se kisi ka nuqsaan ho ya na ho..

and I want my PM to be morally honest.. I don't know what kind of PM you want..

And to be very honest, JIT is investigating crimes of PM not the honesty, on which the supposed honorable judge has already remarked that 62/ 63 are all about legal dishonesty...

Abb samajh aaya sharamnaal kirdaar PM ka aur jin judge hazraat ne ye note dala hai?

 

[Verve]

Maybe we should read this order as 'Mr NS, you are done but we are giving you a chance to resign and run before criminal investigation is completed'

Yes but why a new bench then?

Ever heard that song 'killing me softly'?

 

[Farah Sohail]

Not disagreeing with anything you have stated in your comment.. all four wanted investigation.. JIT is the right forum to investigate crime of international nature.. but not in Pakistan..

2 justices realized this.. 3 justices had other motives.. Qayamat walay din pata chalay ga kia hua tha in 57 days main..

Sab ke chahray saamnay aaeingay.. NS wahan bhi konay main khara kisi farishtay ko keh raha hoga ke 10 arab lelo aur meri movie jo bani hai usay edit kar ke dikhado..

Loll@ Nawaz sharif qayamat walay din farishtay ko bhi 10 arab de raha hoga ke movie edit karke dikhaa do

I think...first thing IK should do..is file reference against Chairman NAB in suprme judicial council.. Fwad Ch has already announced it... But they should do it....at the earliest..

What is ur views abt IK going for appeal petition? I posted my views in it..and mentioned you too... Do u think..its a wise decision..considering the very limoted scope of appeal? Which has many chances of it being rejected? I think even justice Khosa will reject it..owing to limited scope of appeal in this article.. Your views on appeal? @PakSword

 

[Zain tariq pk]

Haroon Rasheed Telling Inside Story Over Panama Verdict

Agar inke pas itila thi to NS kai pass nhi hogi kiya aur wo phir kisi aik judge ko influence nahi karsakta tha andar sai..

 

[PakSword]

Are you now saying that PMLN is not strong enough to cause major unrest in Punjab, and that militant wings are not protected by those in PMLN????? MQM is a baby in front of PMLN and how long did rangers take to clear out just Karachi!?

Being in UK is irrelevant. I know people in PMLN's private militia who make people disappear, have serious firepower and men, and even possess high end technologies to track & tap phones and whatnot. And these people are neither in police nor hold any public office. I do not want to name anyone here who they are!

And what about the militants in Interior Sindh?

Regardless of JIT, they will come out and kill people.. To suppress them, you need Karachi like operation, which is only possible after NS is gone.. So JIT findings, implicating NS or whatever, will not affect anything..

 

[Farah Sohail]

@PakSword @Farah Sohail

Maybe we should read this order as 'Mr NS, you are done but we are giving you a chance to resign and run before criminal investigation is completed'

I think @El Sidd hinted towards this earlier ... that he will be cornered to resign

I dont think....he will ever resign..atleast not before passing of budget.. He is one shamelss man..

Only Chairman NAB can match the level of shamelessness and dhitayi..to tht of zardari and nawaz sharif

Also, why should he be ever given a chance to run before investigation is completed? What happens to equality before law and accountability for all?

 

[Zain tariq pk]

Ever heard that song 'killing me softly'?

Got your point but things will become clear in a fortnight.

 

[mingle]

I really hope so too.. Lekin honestly ziada umeed nahi hai.. There are very few judges like Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar in our judiciary...mostly judges woh hain, jo araam se Dr Asim, Sharjeel Memon aur Ayan Ali ko bail de detay hian, aur Sharif fanily ko bhi bailout package dete hain..taakay ye log voctory signs bana kar humara mazaaq uraa sakein.. Jab aisy halaat honge mulk main...tu mob justice kaisy nahi hoga...is mulk main?

Farah Pak came too far now and will get better along .Two judges toasted NS and three just put him toaster with JIT .NS is badly tainted and bruised .Washington post called NS Godfather .He will out down the road has no other political choice .
Only thing is to ensure transparent and partial JIT I hope CJ will ensure it it's not NS the SC also at stake.

 

[Verve]

Regardless of JIT, they will come out and kill people.. To suppress them, you need Karachi like operation, which is only possible after NS is gone.. So JIT findings, implicating NS or whatever, will not affect anything..

If NS resigns and leaves the country before the conviction, there will be no riots.

Pakistan simply can't afford riots even for a week or more. Army and police will be so thinly spread that CPEC projects would be jeopardised and that's a big NO!

All this is to FORCE him to resign and leave. That's my conclusion behind this judgement.

 

[PakSword]

I think...first thing IK should do..is file reference against Chairman NAB in suprme judicial council.. Fwad Ch has already announced it... But they should do it....at the earliest..

IK shouldn't do anything.. Just sit and relax.. Focus on the development of KP, the people of which trusted him 4 years back... He has already delivered a lot, he can do much more.. He is a visionary leader.. He should open at least 15-20 new universities like Namal.. He should set a target of at least 2 billion additional trees after 2018 elections.. He should introduce more reforms in education sector and align the syllabus with Singapore schooling system.. English language capability is a must, and IT skills are the need of time.. He should dedicate himself to the people who trusted him..

Allah ki zaat lambi umar dene wali hai, but I think after 2023, he will be retired.. He himself once pointed out that 2018 are last elections for him.. 2023 will see new leadership in PTI.. with no Imran Khan in it.. And I have confirmed it from many friends who are close enough to the main leadership of PTI..

What is ur views abt IK going for appeal petition? I posted my views in it..and mentioned you too... D u think..its a wise decision..considering the very limoted scope of appeal? Which has many chances of it being rejected?

There is no way, IK's petition will be successful... He will waste his time..

Even this JIT is a way to give NS a clean chit..

My news was probably true..

If NS resigns and leaves the country before the conviction, there will be no riots.

Chalain lagatay hain shart 0-0 pounds ki ke NS kaheen nahi ja raha resign kar ke?

 

[Farah Sohail]

Even this JIT is a way to give NS a clean chit..

My news was probably true..

@bold 2 judges knew it and hence didnt fall into tht trap

I am sooo disappointed with Justice Ijazul Ahsan... I trusted him and thought he will side with Justice Khosa and Gulzar..

Even Iftikhar Ch says tht he agrees with Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar's verdict

 

[Mrc]

Moral dishonesty tou prove hogaee.. 62/ 63 main kahan likha hai legal aur moral ke baaray main?

Dishonesty is dishonesty.. Main ne tou bachpan se yehi seekha hai.. ke jhoot na bolo chahay iss se kisi ka nuqsaan ho ya na ho..

and I want my PM to be morally honest.. I don't know what kind of PM you want..

And to be very honest, JIT is investigating crimes of PM not the honesty, on which the supposed honorable judge has already remarked that 62/ 63 are all about legal dishonesty...

Abb samajh aaya sharamnaal kirdaar PM ka aur jin judge hazraat ne ye note dala hai?

I think whole world knows pretty much what u guyz want ... and what your leader wants ...
But law is law...

PM can step down on his own on moral dishonesty... for which he probably wont

 

[Farah Sohail]

Chalain lagatay hain shart 0-0 pounds ki ke NS kaheen nahi ja raha resign kar ke?

I can vouch for this too.. Tht Nawaz Sharif wont resign

Only zardari and chairman NAB can match the shamelessness level of nawaz sharif

 

[Realistic Change]

Copying and pasting verbatim as received:
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Suppose there is a PM who is generally considered a corrupt to the core however in absence of any evidence there are no charges that could be established like most of the mafias in parts of Europe and South America and he controls almost all the institutions under him ensuring he can get away with whatever he does but he unfortunately gets embroiled in a news leak which puts him in the spotlight and new dynamics of media/social media builds up so much pressure that he half heartedly agrees the superior court to start proceedings. Superior courts and all the other institutions have tuned a blind eye as they all have been beneficiaries and that was established as every retiring senior officer lives a life which does not match with their salary nor meagre pensions.


Superior court takes up the proceedings and makes it as slow as possible e.g., changing the composition of bench and making frivolous comments and then playing to the audience gives an impression of impartiality.


Then two of the five judges succumb to pressures of gold and glitter and agrees to side with sitting PM, however there is still an uphill task to maneuver one more to get the decision in PMs favor – did I say one more? It was actually two more so PM could have gotten the decision as 4-1; different enticing methods are used and it happens that two more agrees to be part of grand alliance to save the PM and that is achieved by arm twisting and providing a after retirement senatorship with the chance of becoming a President if everything goes per the plan. In this episode, other pillars which are symbolic of brute power also played the part courtesy third/fourth in command officers.


However, now comes the part of optics – justice needs to be “showed” to be delivered successfully – now one of the agreeable judges agree to disagree and pacify those who started the whole case; and that party falls in the trap thinking these two dissenting judges were on their side making them believe that it was a close 3-2 decision whereas in the reality the managed decision was 4-1. Thus giving those fools hope that victory and vindication is just one vote away.


Now; the novice party has agreed to investigation by already ridiculed in the judgement institutions and new chapter of comedy circus continues making everyone believe that inch by inch the country is progressing.


Can you guys tell if this sounds familiar?


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