Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[QatariPrince]

Nahi a raha verdict kal. JI kay lawyer nay abhi written rebuttal sumbit kya hai SC main Panama case per. ARY reporting

 

[Ali Tariq]

THis is good approach ,,, higher the stature then higher should be the accountability ...

IK should come clean out of this and apparently he is coming out of this and it will work in his favour atleast among educated classes

Insha'Alllah...!

 

[Farah Sohail]

@PakSword @Farah Sohail guessing who could be dissenting judge...

About RKlasra, it is anybody's guess. How can anyone be sure except judges?

We should be thankful to those who have made educated guess based on their experiences in court like RK.

I think Rk has made the guess like if not unanimously then 4-1 based on Justice Ejaz Ahsan order of 20th April and some subsequent comments.

However the guess work also takes into account his negative comments about Defendants during implementation bench hearings that are contrary to his doubts written in 20th April order so he may yet find them DQ after all.

Read the 20th April Order, open pdf, pay homage to Justice Khosa (i say durood to the Holy Prophet for his findings)...move on to page 221 to 238. Read the whole order by Justice Afzal. Note point no 17:
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There are relevant laws quoted in between skipped pages...
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He talks about right to fair trial above.
Then continues next that we cannot make a Hodge podge of Constitution...and talks about cross examination having benefits safeguards ...this part below creates the grounds for laymen like me that there may still be a dissenting note.

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Then we read on after this page 232-235, the honourable judge continues his findings against giving order on 62/63.

The honourable judge himself says that institutions like NAB have failed to act so we order that a JIT be made to investigate further...

This part makes things confusing, one think that he is proposing JIT instead of trial court for deciding 62/63 or JIT to see if case can be sent to trial court as the last part of his order says:
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Read on, specially point no 25...and so good luck guessing.

If we go by his first part of findings in his 20th April order then he may dissent this time too but the later part of order and his comments after jit report suggest otherwise.

Let me tell you my two cents, The Hodge podge argument in his order alone made the other two go in favour of JIT otherwise and at least, Justice Ijaz ulAhsan would have also dq NS.

Plz read the other two Jit favouring orders too. Say a prayer for Justice Khosa and Gulzar, then do the same for the other three, in sha Allah Subhan Taala.


Sorry for the long post...I tried best to keep it short but still too long.

Thanks for sharing relevant pages of advocate's judgment regd 62/63 here..and refreshing our memory...

I will go through pakora judge's verdict again too...

I have a feeling...tht whatever the verdict but advocate and pakora will be on one side...either both of them will disqualify or none will.. Justice Ijazul Ahsan is most likely to shift side and disqualify NS now..

 

[Guvera]

Nahi a raha verdict kal. JI kay lawyer nay abhi written rebuttal sumbit kya hai SC main Panama case per. ARY reporting

Yaar ap ne theka lay rakha hai kia mayoosi pehlanay ka ? and btw yeh SCP hai ya Habib bank ! jab jis ka dil chahta hai mun utha ke pohonch jata hai chezain jama karanay, ajeeb tamasha laga huwa hai

 

[Shane]

Lolz!!!
See! That is what the facts are. Jis din PTI walon sa questioning hoti ha hum ghabra jaty hein,, but lets look at the bigger picture. It is not BIGGER than a political party or love for it. Things are seemingly changing, THINGS SURELY NEED TO CHANGE and we, all of us, should be supporting that CHANGE for better! I do!


Backtracking?
The never BACKTRACK
They just leave it to be! Never saw GEO or ANYOTHER media house for that matter coming out sand saying taht they are sorry that what they reported yesterday was wrong and it should not be quoted any further. ALL OF THEM!


Kis din kis din?
Link to THAT chat please?
@Zibago


Hmmm. Chlo, let see.
Wasy i didn't meant that the detailed verdict will follow because it will be too long to write right now but because i think that those few words will have to be written VERY carefully (they will become the law). So i think that judges may seek more time to give the best and most appropriate wordings to the verdict and will try to make sure all the points are covered but none in a way which can be misinterpreted in future for political or personal gains by others.

Agreed. It also depends on who writes the judgement

 

[Arsalan]

Just saying

https://twitter.com/x/status/890508463503286272

@Zibago @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Moonlight @Realistic Change

 

[QatariPrince]

Yaar ap ne theka lay rakha hai kia mayoosi pehlanay ka ? and btw yeh SCP hai ya Habib bank ! jab jis ka dil chahta hai mun utha ke pohonch jata hai chezain jama karanay, ajeeb tamasha laga huwa hai

Yea dekho yar

پاناماکیس،جماعت اسلامی کاتحریری جواب الجواب سپریم کورٹ میں جمع
رپورٹ کےبعدنوازشریف پرآرٹیکل62کااطلاق ہوتاہے،جواب الجواب
جےآئی ٹی کی تشکیل کوعدالت میں چیلنج نہیں کیاگیا،جواب الجواب
جےآئی ٹی چیلنج نہ کرنےپررپورٹ بھی مستردنہیں کی جاسکتی،جواب الجواب

اسلام آباد:بارثبوت شریف خاندان پرتھا،جماعت اسلامی کاجواب الجواب
شریف خاندان اپنامؤقف ثابت کرنےمیں یکسر ناکام رہا،جواب الجواب

جےآئی ٹی کاموادمستردکرنےکیلئےوجوہات ضروری ہیں،جواب الجواب
عدالت کونااہلی کاڈیکلیئریشن دینےکامکمل اختیارہے،جواب الجواب

 

[Shane]

Thanks for sharing relevant pages of advocate's judgment regd 62/63 here..and refreshing our memory...

I will go theough pakora judge's verdict again too...

I have a feeling...tht whatever the verdict but advocate and pakora will be on one side...either both of them will disqualify or none will.. Justice Ijazul Ahsan is most likely to shift side and disqualify NS now..

In sha Allah!

 

[Guvera]

Yea dekho yar

پاناماکیس،جماعت اسلامی کاتحریری جواب الجواب سپریم کورٹ میں جمع
رپورٹ کےبعدنوازشریف پرآرٹیکل62کااطلاق ہوتاہے،جواب الجواب
جےآئی ٹی کی تشکیل کوعدالت میں چیلنج نہیں کیاگیا،جواب الجواب
جےآئی ٹی چیلنج نہ کرنےپررپورٹ بھی مستردنہیں کی جاسکتی،جواب الجواب

اسلام آباد:بارثبوت شریف خاندان پرتھا،جماعت اسلامی کاجواب الجواب
شریف خاندان اپنامؤقف ثابت کرنےمیں یکسر ناکام رہا،جواب الجواب

جےآئی ٹی کاموادمستردکرنےکیلئےوجوہات ضروری ہیں،جواب الجواب
عدالت کونااہلی کاڈیکلیئریشن دینےکامکمل اختیارہے،جواب الجواب

This shudn't be accepted by the court, dustbin main phenk dena chahye is jawab ul jawab or JI ke stupid nakara lawyer ko

 

[QatariPrince]

GEO reporting same

جماعت اسلامی نے پاناما کیس میں معروضات سپریم کورٹ میں جمع کروا دیں

Itnay sust hain JI walay. Kya halway khaa ker soo rahy thy yea?

 

[Guvera]

GEO reporting same

جماعت اسلامی نے پاناما کیس میں معروضات سپریم کورٹ میں جمع کروا دیں

Itnay sust hain JI walay. Kya halway khaa ker soo rahy thy yea?

Shudn't be accepted by the court, there must be some timeline, is tarah tu jab jis ka dil karega mun utha ke jawab jama karwata rahega court main

 

[QatariPrince]

Ab sumbit aj hua hai tu lagta nahi kal verdict announce ho ga. 15 Aug kay baad hi ho ga jo bhi hona hai

 

[El Sidd]

If the verdict is delayed - awaami(law abiding peoples) modus operandi:

1) Get a fatwa that Pakistan is not Darul Aman but Darul Corruption
2) Repeal the name Islamic from the name of Pakistan
3) Get your passport renewed
4) Leave Pakistan


Fatwa milna mushkil hai. Kionke yaha sirf 'Matric' level ke fatway dene ka riwaaj qaim ho chuka hai.

Chaand nikla ya nahi nikla - fatwa
shalwar ki lambaayi kitni honi chaiye - fatwa
moustache hone chaiye ya nahi - fatwa
muttah halala zalala - fatwa
can a woman be pilot - fatwa
can a woman drive - fatwa
girlfriend ya grill friend - fatwa

Fatwa nahi diya ja sakta hai yaha on following matter:

paasdaari e qanoon
sectarian issues
corruption
equal rights for women
racial harmony

 

[Shane]

I have not witnessed a single independent lawyer favouring the defendants. SAR himself used to talk and tweet against the defendants stance in the past.

I think that Sharifs lawyers must have painted a fair picture to their clients of the way they have fought this case, lol.

Hand in hand the lawyers team would have seconded one another on account of how well represented the defendants were, at the same time wink between themselves, lol.

Does anyone remember a day when the defendants or their lawyers had a good day since JIT started working till the bench concluded its proceedings?

The Sharifs may find out soon enough who is considered a more blood sucking creature than a vampire.

 

[Guvera]

Ab sumbit aj hua hai tu lagta nahi kal verdict announce ho ga. 15 Aug kay baad hi ho ga jo bhi hona hai

Wesay on a side note, this late submission has nothing to do with the short verdict, imagine bench agar usi din short verdict de deta jis din proceeding complete hoi thein tu jawab ul jawab tu tab bhi nahi ana tha JI lawyer ka ?