Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

Mujhe lagta hai ke is main likhnay ko ziada hoga... I think is time..bhi judges individul decision likhein ge..aur Justice Ijazul Ahsan bhi detailed verdict likhtay hain ... Yahan tu dil ki bharaas bhi nikaalein ge...i think... JIT report main jo new issues aaye hain aur sharif family ne JIT report ko challenge kia..us sab ko bhi discuss karna hoga.. I think...it will again be a very detailed verdict

Jo JIT ke new issues hain, woh trial court ko transfer kardainge.. iss se ziada kuchh nahi likhaingay..

Verdict will be mostly about disqualification and declaration on Sadiq and Ameen of respondents.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Jo JIT ke new issues hain, woh trial court ko transfer kardainge.. iss se ziada kuchh nahi likhaingay..

Verdict will be mostly about disqualification and declaration on Sadiq and Ameen of respondents.

Disqualification bhi tu JIT report ki basis par hi hogi..FZE company?al rajhi bank account etc... Tu disqualification ke liye bhi JIT report discuss tu hogi...kisi hadd tak.. Mujhe lagta hia ke Justice Ijazul Ahsan bhtt dil ki bharaas bhi nikaalnay walay hain, verdict main.. I hope ke short order hi aajaye pehle..

Perjury of docs...par bhi kuch baat karni hogi.. Us par faisla tu nahi dein ge lekin case register karnay ko kahein ge

 

[Guvera]

On a lighter note

https://twitter.com/x/status/890482006152314881

 

[PakSword]

Disqualification bhi tu JIT report ki basis par hi hogi..FZE company?al rajhi bank account etc... Tu disqualification ke liye bhi JIT report discuss tu hogi...kisi hadd tak.. Mujhe lagta hia ke Justice Ijazul Ahsan bhtt dil ki bharaas bhi nikaalnay walay hain, verdict main.. I hope ke short order hi aajaye pehle..

Perjury of docs...par bhi kuch baat karni hogi.. Us par faisla tu nahi dein ge lekin case register karnay ko kahein ge

But likhnay ko ziada kuchh nahi hai.. DQ ke liey few issues hi hain, aur woh kal tak likhay jasaktay hain verdict main.. kia khayal hai iss baray?

 

[Baghial]

Agar aik hi baar aana hai verdict....tu phir time lagay ha....type karnay main ..jald se jald bhi hua..tu 2 weeks se pehle kia aayega? Agar kal aana hua tu phir i think...short order hoga...only court order.

Onky verdict??? Who will make sure ns is thrown out of pm house... bajwa. I am lost in wonder,s. No body will implement DQ. OF NS. HE;S GETTING NEW INSTRUCTIONS IN MALDIVES.

 

[Farah Sohail]

But likhnay ko ziada kuchh nahi hai.. DQ ke liey few issues hi hain, aur woh kal tak likhay jasaktay hain verdict main.. kia khayal hai iss baray?

Pata nahi... Mujhe tu lagta hai ke judges ke liye likhnay ka ab bhi bhtt kuch hai., esp agar Justice Ijazul Ahsan ne dil ki bharaas nikaalni hai... Lets se... Kal bhi aa sakta hai...agar short order ho tu.. Warna mujhe lagta hai ke mushkil hai.. Last friday tu hearing complete hui hai.. Kal 1 week hoga... Ye kuch ziada jaldi nahi..agar short order na hua tu?

Waisy agar JIT..2 months main itna kuch karsakti hai tu shayad judges bhi 1 week main verdict de dein...

 

[Baghial]

Dont

I live in the same Pakistan.
People avoid religious debates simply because it's not worth it.
If you face such people you can discuss with how many different types of wood that exist in Pakistan.
Its only an issue if you make it one

Dont argue with a fool. Otherwise poeple might not know the difference.

 

[Guvera]

Pata nahi... Mujhe tu lagta hai ke judges ke liye likhnay ka ab bhi bhtt kuch hai., esp agar Justice Ijazul Ahsan ne dil ki bharaas nikaalni hai... Lets se... Kal bhi aa sakta hai...agar short order ho tu.. Warna mujhe lagta hai ke mushkil hai.. Last friday tu hearing complete hui hai.. Kal 1 week hoga... Ye kuch ziada jaldi nahi..agar short order na hua tu?

Waisy agar JIT..2 months main itna kuch karsakti hai tu shayad judges bhi 1 week main verdict de dein...

Judges ne jo kuch likhna tha woh JIT se pehlay walay verdict main likh chukay hain ab unko sirf yeh likhna hai ke JIT ne unkay khadshaat ko durust sabit kia the with solid evidences so they are now sure enough to either disqualify PM or give cleanchit whtever it is, @PakSword is right in his opinion that there it nothing more to write in the verdict.

 

[El Sidd]

Dont

Dont argue with a fool. Otherwise poeple might not know the difference.

Its not arguing. Just opinion sharing.

 

[expert]

It would be irresponsible for the judges to go on leave while the government machinery has become non existent and the economy is under severe pressure.

 

[El Sidd]

You guys do realize all this compilation or court order and sorting of observations is nothing but crap.
They write it down during the proceedings and just have to compile it together which is no more than a weeks task.
If SC is only for taking notice and MAHFOOZING the faisla, then that can be done by NAB FBR and FIA as well. Not to mention ECP as well.

JIT has shown that efficiency is not a lost word for Pakistanis.

This pampering of the elite attitude has to go otherwise someone else has to go in a very unceremonious way.

Simple equation for those who wants to change for the better.

The moment this case when to the court people said 'Niyyat hogi to Insaaf mil jaega'

 

[Arsalan]

Jahangir Tareen Case

آپ کن دستاویزات پر انحصار کررہے ہیں،جسٹس عمر عطابندیال
میرے پاس دستاویزات نہیں ہیں ،وکیل حنیف عباسی
آپکےپاس دستاویزنہیں توپھرکیسےمان لیں کہ آف شورکمپنی جہانگیرترین نےبنائی،عدالت
غیرقانونی رقم لےجاکرآف شورکمپنی بنانےکاآپ کےپاس کوئی ریکارڈنہیں ہے،چیف جسٹس
سپریم کورٹ نےپاناماکیس اخباری تراشوں کی بنیادپرسنا، وکیل حنیف عباسی
پاناماکیس میں تقاریر،ٹی وی انٹرویوزودیگرموادپرکارروائی شروع کی گئی،جسٹس عمرعطا
آپ کویہ بھی نہیں پتہ کہ جہانگیرترین کی آف شورکمپنی کانام کیاہے، چیف جسٹس​

Lolz!!!
See! That is what the facts are. Jis din PTI walon sa questioning hoti ha hum ghabra jaty hein,, but lets look at the bigger picture. It is not BIGGER than a political party or love for it. Things are seemingly changing, THINGS SURELY NEED TO CHANGE and we, all of us, should be supporting that CHANGE for better! I do!

PS: Geo has famous for misreporting & backtracking...

Backtracking?
The never BACKTRACK
They just leave it to be! Never saw GEO or ANYOTHER media house for that matter coming out sand saying taht they are sorry that what they reported yesterday was wrong and it should not be quoted any further. ALL OF THEM!

Uss din waisay ziada kar dia tha becharay ke saath.. baad main mujhay afsos hua.. lekin doosray din phir aagaya..

Kis din kis din?
Link to THAT chat please?
@Zibago

Judges don't have to write too much in the second verdict in my opinion.. This verdict will not be more than 100 pages.. or if it does, it will not exceed 150..

But lets see..

Hmmm. Chlo, let see.
Wasy i didn't meant that the detailed verdict will follow because it will be too long to write right now but because i think that those few words will have to be written VERY carefully (they will become the law). So i think that judges may seek more time to give the best and most appropriate wordings to the verdict and will try to make sure all the points are covered but none in a way which can be misinterpreted in future for political or personal gains by others.

 

[The Accountant]

Judges are behaving much differently in Jehangir Tareen case as compared to tht of IK..... IK se tu pata nahi...kia kia...pooch liya..jo petition ka part bhi nahi tha.. Sirf bachpan ki eidi ka hisaab lena reh gaya tha

THis is good approach ,,, higher the stature then higher should be the accountability ...

IK should come clean out of this and apparently he is coing out of this and it will work in his favour atleast among educated classes

 

[QatariPrince]

Sicilian Mafia

https://twitter.com/x/status/890500853421027328

 

[Shane]

@PakSword @Farah Sohail guessing who could be dissenting judge...

About RKlasra, it is anybody's guess. How can anyone be sure except judges?

We should be thankful to those who have made educated guess based on their experiences in court like RK.

I think Rk has made the guess like if not unanimously then 4-1 based on Justice Ejaz Ahsan order of 20th April and some subsequent comments.

However the guess work also takes into account his negative comments about Defendants during implementation bench hearings that are contrary to his doubts written in 20th April order so he may yet find them DQ after all.

Read the 20th April Order, open pdf, pay homage to Justice Khosa (i say durood to the Holy Prophet for his findings)...move on to page 221 to 238. Read the whole order by Justice Afzal. Note point no 17:

There are relevant laws quoted in between skipped pages...

He talks about right to fair trial above.
Then continues next that we cannot make a Hodge podge of Constitution...and talks about cross examination having benefits safeguards ...this part below creates the grounds for laymen like me that there may still be a dissenting note.

Then we read on after this page 232-235, the honourable judge continues his findings against giving order on 62/63.

The honourable judge himself says that institutions like NAB have failed to act so we order that a JIT be made to investigate further...

This part makes things confusing, one think that he is proposing JIT instead of trial court for deciding 62/63 or JIT to see if case can be sent to trial court as the last part of his order says:

Read on, specially point no 25...and so good luck guessing.

If we go by his first part of findings in his 20th April order then he may dissent this time too but the later part of order and his comments after jit report suggest otherwise.

Let me tell you my two cents, The Hodge podge argument in his order alone made the other two go in favour of JIT otherwise and at least, Justice Ijaz ulAhsan would have also dq NS.

Plz read the other two Jit favouring orders too. Say a prayer for Justice Khosa and Gulzar, then do the same for the other three, in sha Allah Subhan Taala.


Sorry for the long post...I tried best to keep it short but still too long.