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sir me apse sirf agreed to disagree keh sakta hon...aap hamesha glass adha khali hi dekh sakenge kabhi adha pora nahi dikhega apko..
I can say the same for you bro!
You too have been looking and claimed the glass to be half empty, not half full. The problem here is that we are both looking at different glasses. For you i am being pessimist with regards to the public taking over and i claim that this will lead to problems. For you, your are being pessimist with regards to the institutions and ignore whatever LITTLE good is being done and just want the system to be thrown out over night, ignoring the baby steps. For me, this is not a choice.

So yeah, lets agree to disagree man but just as a concluding note, my point remains that the public at best should be giving support to the authorities to do the right thing, TAKING IT OUT ON STREETS will never ever work anymore. This is not 90s anymore. Any move of violence will be hijacked and used by anti-state forces to DESTROY the country. What they have not been able to do in decades, WE WILL DO FOR THEM IN MONTHS> Examples are countless and you can study any one of them.

corruption of a rehri wala jo dhoop me darr ba darr thokre khata ho majbooran take payt bhar sake or apne bachon ko taleem de sake jo apparently sirf exclusive to paise walay logon ki jaedaad banti ja rahi hai... wo corrupt hai mashallah... pakistan ki halat usne bigaari hai..mashallah.... to maar do usse kio bhoka rakhte ho usko itna phir...
Kuen? Do you think that wo corrupt nahi ha?
Sir chori chori haa, chotti ho ya bari!! Zardari ka haat billions pa parta ha he does corruption in billions, ap ka haat hazaron mein parta ha ap wo krain gy, rahri wala ka haat 10 Rs pa parta ha so that is what he will do. It is all about opportunity and access. Not saying that the vendor is more corrupt or more responsible than the other but cannot deny the fact that he too he doing the wrong thing.

bhai aap ki is post se bara dukh hua mujhe...status quo lover me apko pehle se kehta hon uski wajah hai sir jee... uski wajah hai...
Sir i am sorry for hurting you but the best i can do in return is not to call you an agent of anarchy. Itna extreme views hein hmaray parhy likhy logon kay bhe like you, either one is anti eastablishment or he is a status quo lover! Kamal ha bahi!! All i stress on is that REVOLUTION is not the game playable today. You call it status quo lover, i call the opposite of it as asking for violence and anarchy!

Musa direkt Firoun kay paas gaya tha hidayat dene. Mohammad ne abu jahal or abu sufyan se khitaab kiya tha.
Isa direct Suleyman ki masjid me gaya tha. Ibrahim ne direct Nimrod se baat ki thi.
Aj yahan garmi buth zada ha jb ka ab October aagya ha,

But


That is not relevant either. :)

ghareeb ko dosh dene se acha sir ap mujhe dosh deden.... wo zyada behtar hai....
Sir mein ap ko ilzaam dy raha hoon, Mein HM SB ko ilzam dy raha hoon! Just want to show you that YOU TOO just LIKE ME are responsible for the state we are in today. The relevance may vary from top to bottom but still, all are relevant at some level.
 
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Since he is siding with declared corrupts, his opinions, fatawa etc have no value at all.

Our aslaaf said that if you find one and only one habit in a person, which is not according to Quran and Sunnah, don't make that man your guide in you religious affairs.

One habit..... And here fazlu is openly supporting corrupt people who have been declared liars by a competent court..

Another example, he still suspects Jemima a Jew despite her acceptance of Islam. This is really a major sin, i.e considering a Muslim a Jew.

So people should just leave him. If they don't, they will also be held responsible.

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Aik misaal aur deta hun... Aik qualified Doctor agar used medical equipment istemaal karnay lagay jis se beemarian phelnay ka khatra ho, tou woh doctor apni taleem ko sahi use nahi kar raha.. usay pakkar kar chhittar maarne chahiey.. lekin iss aik doctor ki wajah se hum baqi doctor's ko bura bhala nahi keh saktay..

Spot on.:tup:
 
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Jis din chacha neat pee ker ajatay hain na without water mix kiay us din aesi batein karte hain sara din :D

jaldi pehchaan liya hai apne lagta hai chacha ko

I can say the same for you bro!
You too have been looking and claimed the glass to be half empty, not half full. The problem here is that we are both looking at different glasses. For you i am being pessimist with regards to the public taking over and i claim that this will lead to problems. For you, your are being pessimist with regards to the institutions and ignore whatever LITTLE good is being done and just want the system to be thrown out over night, ignoring the baby steps. For me, this is not a choice.

So yeah, lets agree to disagree man but just as a concluding note, my point remains that the public at best should be giving support to the authorities to do the right thing, TAKING IT OUT ON STREETS will never ever work anymore. This is not 90s anymore. Any move of violence will be hijacked and used by anti-state forces to DESTROY the country. What they have not been able to do in decades, WE WILL DO FOR THEM IN MONTHS> Examples are countless and you can study any one of them.


Kuen? Do you think that wo corrupt nahi ha?
Sir chori chori haa, chotti ho ya bari!! Zardari ka haat billions pa parta ha he does corruption in billions, ap ka haat hazaron mein parta ha ap wo krain gy, rahri wala ka haat 10 Rs pa parta ha so that is what he will do. It is all about opportunity and access. Not saying that the vendor is more corrupt or more responsible than the other but cannot deny the fact that he too he doing the wrong thing.


Sir i am sorry for hurting you but the best i can do in return is not to call you an agent of anarchy. Itna extreme views hein hmaray parhy likhy logon kay bhe like you, either one is anti eastablishment or he is a status quo lover! Kamal ha bahi!! All i stress on is that REVOLUTION is not the game playable today. You call it status quo lover, i call the opposite of it as asking for violence and anarchy!


Aj yahan garmi buth zada ha jb ka ab October aagya ha,

But


That is not relevant either. :)


Sir mein ap ko ilzaam dy raha hoon, Mein HM SB ko ilzam dy raha hoon! Just want to show you that YOU TOO just LIKE ME are responsible for the state we are in today. The relevance may vary from top to bottom but still, all are relevant at some level.

you do not realise that there is no legal way to free the masses of this enslavement.
status quo has not changed in the sub continent since 1857. these people who have ruled the sub continent cannot be allowed to continue to rule since as of now this is uncontrolled capitalism and it will lead to anarchy.

Today is 12 October. On this black day of Pakistani Democracy I will like to ask a simple question:

Nawaz Sharif ko kion nikala?
 
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jaldi pehchaan liya hai apne lagta hai chacha ko



you do not realise that there is no legal way to free the masses of this enslavement.
status quo has not changed in the sub continent since 1857. these people who have ruled the sub continent cannot be allowed to continue to rule since as of now this is uncontrolled capitalism and it will lead to anarchy.

Today is 12 October. On this black day of Pakistani Democracy I will like to ask a simple question:

Nawaz Sharif ko kion nikala?
Punishing NS was the first step in the right direction ... We are slow but we have to be patient and consistent ...

IA we will win ...

I guarantee you if things do not correct we will be having the revolution in a decade or so but outcome you can see right now ... We will be worst thwn suria and iraq ... As we are not just an ordinary country but a nuclear country having borders with 2 other nuclear states ... We will be perfect batyle ground for war between america china india and russia ...
 
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Punishing NS was the first step in the right direction ... We are slow but we have to be patient and consistent ...

IA we will win ...

I guarantee you if things do not correct we will be having the revolution in a decade or so but outcome you can see right now ... We will be worst thwn suria and iraq ... As we are not just an ordinary country but a nuclear country having borders with 2 other nuclear states ... We will be perfect batyle ground for war between america china india and russia ...

Stop worrying.

Neither of them has enough ballz to do anything against Pakistan.

Lol
 
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Stop worrying.

Neither of them has enough ballz to do anything against Pakistan.

Lol
Yes but for now ... However in case of civil unrest against gov do you think status will remain same .. iraq had the most powerful army in middle east
 
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Pani sar say ooncha ho bhee gaya aur qoom ko mistake ki lollipop daay kar baywaqoof bhee bana deya gaya...

Bayghairat voters kay bayghairat leaders get away with anything proving the rest of us just as bayghairat.

KhatmeNabowwat oath changes were just clerical mistake(s)? (as multiple omissions and specific related paragraph were "claimed" to be mistakenly deleted).

Not that the following video is needed to prove anything as the try to change the oath was precisely done, reflecting through multiple changes and omission of a whole paragraph that holds a culprit of mis-declaration of Khatmenabowwat accountable.

How the qadyanis have been looking to change laws they find against them is evident from the following video:
Watch and decide for yourself:
 
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Yes but for now ... However in case of civil unrest against gov do you think status will remain same .. iraq had the most powerful army in middle east

Iraq lol

Buddy most powerful army in the Arab world is Egyptian army.

Abhi bohat musalman marne hain hamare upar aanch anay se pehle.

Apko kon dara raha ha?
 
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Pani sar say ooncha ho bhee gaya aur qoom ko mistake ki lollipop daay kar baywaqoof bhee bana deya gaya...

Bayghairat voters kay bayghairat leaders get away with anything proving the rest of us just as bayghairat.

KhatmeNabowwat oath changes were just clerical mistake(s)? (as multiple omissions and specific related paragraph were "claimed" to be mistakenly deleted).

Not that the following video is needed to prove anything as the try to change the oath was precisely done, reflecting through multiple changes and omission of a whole paragraph that holds a culprit of mis-declaration of Khatmenabowwat accountable.

How the qadyanis have been looking to change laws they find against them is evident from the following video:
Watch and decide for yourself:

Ye jo inhon ne khatm e Nubuwwat ke law ke saath deliberately garbar ki thee....mujhe Pakistan ke system ya laws se tu nahi..lekin mujhe Allah ke divine justice se umeed hai ke ab inka khaatma qareeb hai.. Allah inhein ab zuroor girift main laayega..aur shayad ibrat ka nishan banaa dey... Waisy has..President signed tht ammemded bill? Senate se tu pass hogaya tha..kia President ne sign kar diye hain? Kia woh law ban gaya hai dobara se...purana wala? I am not sure whether President has signed in tht..after it was passed from senate again..

Kher..as I was saying..ke shayad inhon ne jo khatm e nubuwwat ke saath kiya tha...aur ab jo qadyanis ke issue par dobara karrahy hain.. Shayad abb inka NRO na ho..? Allah se umeed hai ke inki iss..harkat par inka bura anjaam hoga..
 
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Pani sar say ooncha ho bhee gaya aur qoom ko mistake ki lollipop daay kar baywaqoof bhee bana deya gaya...

Bayghairat voters kay bayghairat leaders get away with anything proving the rest of us just as bayghairat.

KhatmeNabowwat oath changes were just clerical mistake(s)? (as multiple omissions and specific related paragraph were "claimed" to be mistakenly deleted).

Not that the following video is needed to prove anything as the try to change the oath was precisely done, reflecting through multiple changes and omission of a whole paragraph that holds a culprit of mis-declaration of Khatmenabowwat accountable.

How the qadyanis have been looking to change laws they find against them is evident from the following video:
Watch and decide for yourself:


Sir 18 tarmeem pori jaegi...

Thoda sa sabar.... Abhi deep state ko ghussa nahi aya hai....
 
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Iraq lol

Buddy most powerful army in the Arab world is Egyptian army.

Abhi bohat musalman marne hain hamare upar aanch anay se pehle.

Apko kon dara raha ha?

Lolz egyptians are not arabs ... They are in african continent arab is in asia ...
 
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Lolz egyptians are not arabs ... They are in african continent arab is in asia ...

Arabi bolte hain. Jab zabaan bana le to khabar dedena.

Sir duniya hum chala rahe hain...

Do din me Kashmir apka hoga...laken jo wo maang rahe hain ap wo dogay nahi
 
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Language is something different ... There are areas in africa where french is spoken so are they france ?
 
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Language is something different ... There are areas in africa where french is spoken so are they france ?

You know now how civil war in Egypt will unfold.

Anyhow

Sir apko me bata raha ho apse jang koi nahi krega.

Hum shahid hain zamanay kay.

Jab Hajj pe hisaab hota hai to wo humse poch kr hota hai.

Aap fikar na karen. Kuch nahi hoga. Qanoon ko hath me lene se pehle apne aapko qanoon kay hawalay krden.... Ye tamam corrupt ko samjhen warning hai
 
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