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Pakitan bankrupt power sector

Govt needs to put 500b rupees in subsidy to electricity (bring additional money by taxing oil more)
Hike rates for high end consumers
Privitize distribution (okay easier said then done but still)
Close all descos (yes done but too late)
Negatiate with IPPs is hit and miss
And thats it..fixed


As for cheap electricity people should act as grown up you asked for expensive power by voting for PMLN so why cry now????
Here is what we need ask companies to either negotiate or expect nothing in future..

2 start a govt owned "Clean Electricity Company" which can help people set up Solar systems upto 10 lakh.

But it should have categories
Rich- Pays for his solar system pays fixed less bill

Middle Class- gets Subsidy on Solar system and pays fixed less bill but has to give additional electricity to the grid

Poor- govt provides a Solar system, he pays near to no bill, govt get additional electricity to the grid.


Then each pind has its own artificial grid system so its protected from blackouts as well as cyber attacks..

Then same company can be used to do mini hydro projects on canals..
 
PML-Narendra is here.


LOL Slumdog India is here to lecture us about mindset and success.

Ask your daddy America who has to beg Pakistan to abandon CPEC on your behalf.


like I said ego and blind patrism prevents seeing how the world perceive you .

it can be shockingly skewed
 
Brazil.is,successful.relative to 90 percent of the world
very large,GDP
decent per capita income
best football team on planet
good balanced politics
relatively stable politics
and the overall the biggest most powerful.nation in South America a

their living standards,as,while are higher than all.south Asians.. just a,fact

Ever been to the favelas of Brazil? Looks like another Hindustan. The divide between rich and poor extreme. Although Brazil is definitely a nation with potential and promise it is no where near succesfull.

LOL Don't lump us with you Hindustanis. We are not South Asians. Pakistan has its roots in CAS.

Your definition of developed is very dodgy.
like I said ego and blind patrism prevents seeing how the world perceive you .

it can be shockingly skewed

Which world? India, US and NATO? LOL

Give me a break on your world lectures. Your world is eating each other as we speak. Wars, poverty, nationalism, extremism, hypocrisy and I could go on. Don't give me lecture on the world. The world is only as good as it allows them to be. The world is a jungle. That is the real world. There is nothing civilised or good about this world and we have witnessed this since the humans walked on this planet. It is hilarious how you Indians always boast about the world. Where is your civilised world when massacres happen and people die of hunger? One suffering is worth more than others according to your world. So keep the world lecture where the sun doesn't shine 'cause we didn't give a shite.
 
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the topic is pakistan..incompentency and failure at institutional level seemingly a pattern ..

why

I say mindset
inability to be organised ethical or driven enough .
it is in every sector
it's,hard to accept it's,a,fact
what is pakistan good,at .... anything what ate they do well.... I can't see a single set a
medical
space
economy
finance
education
diplomacy
sport

not a,thing stands out
 
the real question here is - what is NOT bankrupt in pakistan?
 
The power sector is the foundation of an economy. Red alert: Pakistan’s power sector – sans government subsidies – is bankrupt. The real culprit behind this bankruptcy is: gross misgovernance. This gross misgovernance shows up as: circular debt and capacity payments (the two are indeed related).

Circular debt has risen from Rs1.1 trillion in 2018 to Rs2.4 trillion – and is projected to hit Rs4 trillion by 2025. Capacity payments – payments made for not utilising the installed power capacity – have gone up from Rs664 billion to Rs900 billion, and are projected to hit Rs1.5 trillion a year in the next couple of years. Imagine, capacity payments amount to 3 percent of Pakistan’s GDP. Lo and behold, circular debt is projected to hit a worrisome 8 percent of GDP.

Pakistan’s energy is both dirty and expensive – and the government is bent upon adding more of the same. The culprits behind dirty energy are the coal-fired plants. And the two culprits behind expensive energy are: the government’s failure to stop theft and the expensive Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs) with the Independent Power Producers (IPPs).

Pakistan’s energy is not only dirty and expensive but we have too much of it too. For the record, current summertime and wintertime peak demand hovers around 25,000MW and 12,000MW, respectively. What we have – installed as well as in the pipeline – is 38,000MW. There are two problems with the installed capacity. One, the current transmission and distribution infrastructure cannot transmit and distribute 38,000MW. Two, the economy that was growing by 5.8 percent in 2018 has gone into a nose-dive.

Some energy projects under CPEC are quite expensive. Of the 10,000MW capacity under CPEC 65 percent is coal-fired. Currently, Pakistan’s obligations under capacity payments to Chinese financed energy projects stand at around Rs400 billion a year, every year. Lo and behold, in the next couple of years this amount will go up to Rs800 billion a year, every year.

Pakistan’s policy framers have just blundered through a coal-heavy power expansion whereby 64 percent of our electricity is now from fossil fuels, 27 percent hydropower, 5 percent nuclear and only 4 percent from solar and wind. The good news is that Pakistan has shelved two coal power plants.

Reform or regress. To be sure, the government of Pakistan has almost no capacity to reform. The two tools that the government seems to possess are: subsidies and one tariff increase after another. Over the past decade or so, the government has doled out more than a trillion rupees in subsidies and an additional half a trillion to K-Electric. The power sector is bankrupt – sans government subsidies. Yes, we have a national Electric Vehicle (EV) policy to reduce the impact of climate change but 64 percent of our electricity is from fossil fuels.

Pakistan’s power sector is dirty, expensive and bankrupt. Imagine trying to build an economy on a foundation that is bankrupt. We urgently need a paradigm shift. We urgently need a brand new model. The ‘single buyer’ model has failed-failed miserably. We need a more competitive model. To be certain, Pakistan’s power sector will make or break Pakistan’s economy. Red alert: A bankrupt power sector will, sooner or later, lead Pakistan into a default.



The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad.

Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com Twitter: @saleemfarrukh

2.5 years of PTI

nothing done to alleviate this issue



as of today, capacity payment tarriffs stand .


change my mind .
I think Imran Khan said many times, these power sector contracts are killer and killing us. Because they all signed in UK and under UK law and payments in dollars. Non utilization charges are massive. No doubt, a blind man name Dar seems signed all these contracts.
 
I would say that the opposition probably has more popular support than the government right now. This is both because of the electoral structure and failure of the government to deliver on its promises and improve the micro-economic conditions, for whatever reasons.
Actually no.
I think PTI support has remained unchanged or may have increased. True supporters of PTI know that it doesnt take days to fix things...you can destroy a thing in a day but building back takes years..this is true for power sector as well.

The fact is just like in 2018 PTI never had support of more then 35% people and that holds true even now

PPPP-PMLN JUI gained more votes then govt coalition and will easily beat the govt in relection unless sindh vote bank is corrected in census

Central punjab as always will vote for PMLN
the real question here is - what is NOT bankrupt in pakistan?
Real question is what is bankrupt in pakistan
Answer: nothing

Neither the federal govt nor provinces not power sector is bankrupt..now just like indians believe the world is flat they may beleive pakistan is bankrupt ..noone will waste time to bring u back from lala land
I think Imran Khan said many times, these power sector contracts are killer and killing us. Because they all signed in UK and under UK law and payments in dollars. Non utilization charges are massive. No doubt, a blind man name Dar seems signed all these contracts.
But EDUCATED people of central punjab still likes him.
Central punjab is the most educated part of pakistan
Top 10 districts all are from central punjab except rawalpindi and hunza

Infact everyone knows PMLN is curupt but they point out that IK is bad because he has some of the same people that were under nawaz sharif or that he couldnt fix what PMLN destroyed in 2 years..so thats why nawaz is better

I think in pakistan the more educated you are the more likely is that you will either support More corruption or will be part of it
 
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Ohh wow, you commented like I gave a damn about "your political affiliation/likings/dislikings", btw go to protest if you support farmers what are you doing on a Pakistani thread? Also I don't really care about who you worship, whether its cow, nehru or whatever. What I care about is, derailing and trolling of threads. Which you as a pajeet are currently doing. Not worrying about your own stuff and cow shitting on a non-India related thread. Stay on topic or gtfo.


Tens of threads on India's farmer protests were started by Pakistani's on this Forum . Why if you are Pakistani's you are worried about the plight of Indian farmers and not your own.



Pot calling the kettle black
Pakistani politicians trying to express sympathy with Indian farmers is a blatant case of pot calling the kettle black
Syed Mohammad Ali March 05, 2021
the writer is an academic and researcher he is also the author of development poverty and power in pakistan available from routledge

The writer is an academic and researcher. He is also the author of Development, Poverty, and Power in Pakistan, available from Routledge
The ongoing Indian farmers protest has posed a major challenge to the Modi government with its top-down notions of boosting India’s agricultural productivity via further deregulation. Protesting Indian farmers have caught the attention of major international celebrities, including politicians, entertainers, and climate activists. Pakistani policymakers have also not lost the opportunity to express concern about the plight of Indian farmers.
The reason why Indian farmers are protesting and what that means is complex. While these farmer protests are said to represent widespread agrarian frustration across India, most protests are being spearheaded by northeastern states, which primarily grow the crops being impacted by the new farm bill. The fact that Sikh farmers are at the forefront of the protests has prompted the BJP to try and discredit the protesters as having a separatist agenda, or even being supported by Pakistan.
Farming in India is not very efficient. It is also being threatened by climate change. Many Indian farmers are highly indebted due to input costs, such as BT cotton, which has been pushed on Indian farmers for the past two decades. Thousands of farmers across India commit suicide due to their indebtedness and crop failures.
Against this backdrop, one can see why protesting Indian farmers have caught such widespread attention. Many protesters fear the new farm bill will remove government subsidies for food crops and force them to sell to powerful corporations rather than government-run markets. Despite government attempts to address some of their concerns, protesting farmers have not backed down.
While one is certainly not in favour of agri-businesses and supermarket chains making exorbitant profits on the back of Indian farmers, the issue of who benefits from government subsidies is not as straightforward as it seems. Government supported crop prices and electricity subsidies to run tube-wells, for instance, do not automatically translate into addressing the plight of poorer farmers, nor do they necessarily boost food security. Non-targeted agricultural subsidisation can instead drain scarce government resources and encourage peasant proprietors to use excessive water to grow their crops. Middlemen (arthiyas) who act as intermediaries between the state and poorer farmers also thrive on the back of government support prices. Conversely, the landless poor, especially labouring agricultural workers get no direct benefits from the billions of rupees spent on such subsidisation.
Pakistani politicians trying to express sympathy with Indian farmers is a blatant example of a pot calling the kettle black. While rural poverty and skewed land ownership are problems in India, the situation in Pakistan is much worse where politically powerful families and the military control a significant proportion of agricultural land. The few bouts of land reform under the Ayub and Bhutto eras were easily circumvented by politically powerful landowners. There has been no further attempt to redistribute land after the 1989 Shariat Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court declared land reforms to be “un-Islamic”. Public interest litigation aiming to challenge this decision has not had its day in court.
Agriculture in Pakistan today is also more liberal than in India. Agribusinesses in the country can readily lease land from larger landowners and are involved in the livestock sector. The government primarily controls the wheat price, yet its benefits do not percolate down to the poorest farmers who are often indebted to intermediaries, or to sharecroppers and poor labourers who toil in the fields for measly daily wages.
The major takeaway for Pakistan from the ongoing agrarian unrest in India is not for the government to better subsidise elite or even middle incomed farmers. Instead, urgent heed must be paid to the plight of landless farmers and daily-waged agri-labourers, or else the ongoing phenomenon of rural migration and unsustainable urban growth will continue unhindered.
Published in The Express Tribune, March 5th, 2021.
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Opinion & Editorial on Facebook, follow @ETOpEd on Twitter to receive all updates on all our daily pieces.


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When these contracts were being signed many like me pointed out that China was getting rid of sunset industries was flogging coal powered electric generation at exorbitant price to Pakistan with single vendor contracts containing absurd ROR.
The same people NOW condemning the previous govts for signing these are the very same people who were absolutely overjoyed and called all detractors agents of India , jealous that Pakistan would finally have electricity to ramp up the vast industries which were waiting only for the want of electricity.

Now these very same people condemn the signing of these stupid contracts and seek to blame others when they are just as guilty.
 
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Every Prem, Preety, Patil, commenting here like experts on Pakistani matters first need to look inwards but i guess the image is too gruesome for them to digest so to feel good they prefer to discuss others....There is a White race and there is Black but Indians being somewhere in between hate Blacks and try to change their own complexion with fair'n lovely.....regardless how the Blacks feel, this is at least what Whites think of these Indians.



Indians are hobbesian? A forwarded msg for your consideration
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https://www.reddit.com/r/india/search?q=flair_name:"Non-Political"&restrict_sr=1
A very Hard hitting article from New Zealand. Its a New Zealander's view on corruption in India: It is Forwarded as received. No offense intended Just shocked to read a foreigner's view about us.
Indians are Hobbesian: ( having a Culture of self interest)


Corruption in India is a cultural aspect. Indians seem to think nothing peculiar about corruption. It is prevalent.
Indians tolerate corrupt individuals rather than correct them. No race can be congenitally corrupt.
To know why Indians are corrupt, look at their patterns and practices.
Firstly: Religion is transactional in India.
Indians give God cash and anticipate an out-of-turn reward.
Such a plea acknowledges that favours are needed for the undeserving.
In the world outside the temple walls, such a transaction is named “bribe”.
A wealthy Indian gives not cash to temples, but gold crowns and such baubles.
His gifts can not feed the poor. His pay-off is for God. He thinks it will be wasted if it goes to a needy man.
In June 2009, The Hindu published a report of Karnataka minister G. Janardhan Reddy gifting a crown of gold and diamonds worth Rs 45 crore to Tirupati.
India’s temples collect so much that they don't know what to do with it. Billions are gathering dust in temple vaults.
When Europeans came to India they built schools. When Indians go to Europe & USA, they build temples.
Indians believe that if God accepts money for his favours, then nothing is wrong in doing the same thing. This is why Indians are so easily corruptible.
Indian culture accommodates such transaction
First: Morally. There is no real stigma. An utterly corrupt politician can make a comeback, just unthinkable in the West.
Secondly: Indian moral ambiguity towards corruption is visible in its history. Indian history tells of the capture of cities and kingdoms after guards were paid off to open the gates, and commanders paid off to surrender.
This is unique to India.
Indians' corrupt nature has meant limited warfare on the subcontinent.
It is striking how little Indians have actually fought compared to ancient Greece and modern Europe.
The Turk's battles with Nadir Shah were vicious and fought to the finish.
In India fighting wasn't needed, bribing was enough to see off armies.
Any invader willing to spend cash could brush aside India’s kings, no matter how many tens of thousands soldiers were in their infantry.
Little resistance was given by the Indians at the “Battle” of Plassey.
Clive paid off Mir Jaffar and all of Bengal folded to an army of 3,000.
There was always a financial exchange to taking Indian forts. Golconda was captured in 1687 after the secret back door was left open.
Mughals vanquished Marathas and Rajputs with nothing but bribes.
The Raja of Srinagar gave up Dara Shikoh’s son Sulaiman to Aurangzeb after receiving a bribe.
There are many cases where Indians participated on a large scale in treason due to bribery.
Question is: Why Indians have a transactional culture while other 'civilized' nations don't?
Thirdly: Indians do not believe in the theory that they all can rise if each of them behaves morally, because that is not the message of their faith.
Their caste system separates them.
They don't believe that all men are equal.
This resulted in their division and migration to other religions.
Many Hindus started their own faith like Sikh, Jain, Buddha and many converted to Christianity and Islam.
The result is that Indians don't trust one another.
There are no Indians in India, there are Hindus, Christians, Muslims and what not.
Indians forget that 1400 years ago they all belonged to one faith.
This division evolved an unhealthy culture. The inequality has resulted in a corrupt society, in India every one is thus against everyone else, except God and even he must be bribed.

BRIAN from Godzone NEW ZEALAND (Incidentally, New Zealand is one of the least corrupt nations in the world.) .
 
Every Prem, Preety, Patil, commenting here like experts on Pakistani matters first need to look inwards but i guess the image is too gruesome for them to digest so to feel good they prefer to discuss others....There is a White race and there is Black but Indians being somewhere in between hate Blacks and try to change their own complexion with fair'n lovely.....regardless how the Blacks feel, this is at least what Whites think of these Indians.



Indians are hobbesian? A forwarded msg for your consideration
renderTimingPixel.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/india/search?q=flair_name:"Non-Political"&restrict_sr=1
A very Hard hitting article from New Zealand. Its a New Zealander's view on corruption in India: It is Forwarded as received. No offense intended Just shocked to read a foreigner's view about us.
Indians are Hobbesian: ( having a Culture of self interest)


Corruption in India is a cultural aspect. Indians seem to think nothing peculiar about corruption. It is prevalent.
Indians tolerate corrupt individuals rather than correct them. No race can be congenitally corrupt.
To know why Indians are corrupt, look at their patterns and practices.
Firstly: Religion is transactional in India.
Indians give God cash and anticipate an out-of-turn reward.
Such a plea acknowledges that favours are needed for the undeserving.
In the world outside the temple walls, such a transaction is named “bribe”.
A wealthy Indian gives not cash to temples, but gold crowns and such baubles.
His gifts can not feed the poor. His pay-off is for God. He thinks it will be wasted if it goes to a needy man.
In June 2009, The Hindu published a report of Karnataka minister G. Janardhan Reddy gifting a crown of gold and diamonds worth Rs 45 crore to Tirupati.
India’s temples collect so much that they don't know what to do with it. Billions are gathering dust in temple vaults.
When Europeans came to India they built schools. When Indians go to Europe & USA, they build temples.
Indians believe that if God accepts money for his favours, then nothing is wrong in doing the same thing. This is why Indians are so easily corruptible.
Indian culture accommodates such transaction
First: Morally. There is no real stigma. An utterly corrupt politician can make a comeback, just unthinkable in the West.
Secondly: Indian moral ambiguity towards corruption is visible in its history. Indian history tells of the capture of cities and kingdoms after guards were paid off to open the gates, and commanders paid off to surrender.
This is unique to India.
Indians' corrupt nature has meant limited warfare on the subcontinent.
It is striking how little Indians have actually fought compared to ancient Greece and modern Europe.
The Turk's battles with Nadir Shah were vicious and fought to the finish.
In India fighting wasn't needed, bribing was enough to see off armies.
Any invader willing to spend cash could brush aside India’s kings, no matter how many tens of thousands soldiers were in their infantry.
Little resistance was given by the Indians at the “Battle” of Plassey.
Clive paid off Mir Jaffar and all of Bengal folded to an army of 3,000.
There was always a financial exchange to taking Indian forts. Golconda was captured in 1687 after the secret back door was left open.
Mughals vanquished Marathas and Rajputs with nothing but bribes.
The Raja of Srinagar gave up Dara Shikoh’s son Sulaiman to Aurangzeb after receiving a bribe.
There are many cases where Indians participated on a large scale in treason due to bribery.
Question is: Why Indians have a transactional culture while other 'civilized' nations don't?
Thirdly: Indians do not believe in the theory that they all can rise if each of them behaves morally, because that is not the message of their faith.
Their caste system separates them.
They don't believe that all men are equal.
This resulted in their division and migration to other religions.
Many Hindus started their own faith like Sikh, Jain, Buddha and many converted to Christianity and Islam.
The result is that Indians don't trust one another.
There are no Indians in India, there are Hindus, Christians, Muslims and what not.
Indians forget that 1400 years ago they all belonged to one faith.
This division evolved an unhealthy culture. The inequality has resulted in a corrupt society, in India every one is thus against everyone else, except God and even he must be bribed.

BRIAN from Godzone NEW ZEALAND (Incidentally, New Zealand is one of the least corrupt nations in the world.) .

you need to ask that every salim, suleman and salmaan commenting on Indian matter must look inwards and ask only one question
why and why and why you need so many loans? and still pakistan is nowhere on the world economic and industrial index??

why we have nationwide blackout? why there is no efficient railway system in country? why our leaders go to IMF each year?
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then you dont have to go to New Zealand to find answers.... those are near home.
 
you need to ask that every salim, suleman and salmaan commenting on Indian matter must look inwards and ask only one question
why and why and why you need so many loans? and still pakistan is nowhere on the world economic and industrial index??

why we have nationwide blackout? why there is no efficient railway system in country? why our leaders go to IMF each year?
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then you dont have to go to New Zealand to find answers.... those are near home.
Lol as an Indian you creatures are last to comment on Pakistan....Indians hate African blacks but compared to same Africans, Indians are even worse....any wonder you are less happy than we Pakistanis. :lol:

More of world's poor live in India than in all sub-Saharan Africa, says study

Hate going up, happiness down; India way behind Pakistan, Nepal in happiness index


 
Like this thread is a perfect example on how Pajeets troll on this forum. Like there wasn't a single thing or a single comment by a Pajeet that added value to this thread.

Any positive remarks. no
Any fruitful criticism. no
Any improvement suggestions. no
Any logical discussion. no

@waz @The Eagle In my opinion this kind of trolling shouldn't be allowed. I value this forum, and it should focus on quality instead of quantity. Atleast, that should be mandatory requirement from an Indian poster. Like Indian farmer protest was a global news, if some Pakistani poster created or shared that thread why is that making some Indian Pajeets burn their asses so much that they think they have to troll every Pakistani thread?
 
Tens of threads on India's farmer protests were started by Pakistani's on this Forum . Why if you are Pakistani's you are worried about the plight of Indian farmers and not your own.



Pot calling the kettle black
Pakistani politicians trying to express sympathy with Indian farmers is a blatant case of pot calling the kettle black
Syed Mohammad Ali March 05, 2021
the writer is an academic and researcher he is also the author of development poverty and power in pakistan available from routledge

The writer is an academic and researcher. He is also the author of Development, Poverty, and Power in Pakistan, available from Routledge
The ongoing Indian farmers protest has posed a major challenge to the Modi government with its top-down notions of boosting India’s agricultural productivity via further deregulation. Protesting Indian farmers have caught the attention of major international celebrities, including politicians, entertainers, and climate activists. Pakistani policymakers have also not lost the opportunity to express concern about the plight of Indian farmers.
The reason why Indian farmers are protesting and what that means is complex. While these farmer protests are said to represent widespread agrarian frustration across India, most protests are being spearheaded by northeastern states, which primarily grow the crops being impacted by the new farm bill. The fact that Sikh farmers are at the forefront of the protests has prompted the BJP to try and discredit the protesters as having a separatist agenda, or even being supported by Pakistan.
Farming in India is not very efficient. It is also being threatened by climate change. Many Indian farmers are highly indebted due to input costs, such as BT cotton, which has been pushed on Indian farmers for the past two decades. Thousands of farmers across India commit suicide due to their indebtedness and crop failures.
Against this backdrop, one can see why protesting Indian farmers have caught such widespread attention. Many protesters fear the new farm bill will remove government subsidies for food crops and force them to sell to powerful corporations rather than government-run markets. Despite government attempts to address some of their concerns, protesting farmers have not backed down.
While one is certainly not in favour of agri-businesses and supermarket chains making exorbitant profits on the back of Indian farmers, the issue of who benefits from government subsidies is not as straightforward as it seems. Government supported crop prices and electricity subsidies to run tube-wells, for instance, do not automatically translate into addressing the plight of poorer farmers, nor do they necessarily boost food security. Non-targeted agricultural subsidisation can instead drain scarce government resources and encourage peasant proprietors to use excessive water to grow their crops. Middlemen (arthiyas) who act as intermediaries between the state and poorer farmers also thrive on the back of government support prices. Conversely, the landless poor, especially labouring agricultural workers get no direct benefits from the billions of rupees spent on such subsidisation.
Pakistani politicians trying to express sympathy with Indian farmers is a blatant example of a pot calling the kettle black. While rural poverty and skewed land ownership are problems in India, the situation in Pakistan is much worse where politically powerful families and the military control a significant proportion of agricultural land. The few bouts of land reform under the Ayub and Bhutto eras were easily circumvented by politically powerful landowners. There has been no further attempt to redistribute land after the 1989 Shariat Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court declared land reforms to be “un-Islamic”. Public interest litigation aiming to challenge this decision has not had its day in court.
Agriculture in Pakistan today is also more liberal than in India. Agribusinesses in the country can readily lease land from larger landowners and are involved in the livestock sector. The government primarily controls the wheat price, yet its benefits do not percolate down to the poorest farmers who are often indebted to intermediaries, or to sharecroppers and poor labourers who toil in the fields for measly daily wages.
The major takeaway for Pakistan from the ongoing agrarian unrest in India is not for the government to better subsidise elite or even middle incomed farmers. Instead, urgent heed must be paid to the plight of landless farmers and daily-waged agri-labourers, or else the ongoing phenomenon of rural migration and unsustainable urban growth will continue unhindered.
Published in The Express Tribune, March 5th, 2021.
Like
Opinion & Editorial on Facebook, follow @ETOpEd on Twitter to receive all updates on all our daily pieces.


Express Tribune

When these contracts were being signed many like me pointed out that China was getting rid of sunset industries was flogging coal powered electric generation at exorbitant price to Pakistan with single vendor contracts containing absurd ROR.
The same people NOW condemning the previous govts for signing these are the very same people who were absolutely overjoyed and called all detractors agents of India , jealous that Pakistan would finally have electricity to ramp up the vast industries which were waiting only for the want of electricity.

Now these very same people condemn the signing of these stupid contracts and seek to blame others when they are just as guilty.


Ok Fktard Pajeet, let me answer you and I hope you stay on the topic.

1st, Your farmer protests made it become global news, hence the threads. The popular the topic is, more threads will be created on it.
2nd, Do tell me which protest in Pakistan was 1/7th the size of your farmers protest and was held for more than 50+ days, or even 30+ days or even more than a week.

Sure if some pajeet created a thread about IK's (2014) 127 days dharna, sure I don't think any one would have taken an offence since that was a global news. Answer these two points before jumping on some retarded cow shit that you are going to spew here.

And the reason for me being forceful in this comment is, you lot are literally derailing the thread, have any issues, take it GHQ. Tell them there are too many threads on farmers protest which is still on-going btw, and you pajeet lot feel offended.
 
will the moderators do any thing and stop these indian fools from derailing every discussion?
 

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