IN performed her missions in a area where PN had no docking/repair facilities and had no defense. Besides, just as IN learned from '65, PN learned from '71 and is well prepared today.
How did about 1.5lakh Pakistani Soldiers, and Administrative officers get to Bangladesh without Docking facilities ?... along with all that fighter Planes, Tanks and artillery ?... Flying carpet ?
The policy where they actually had to apologize?
Apologized for what.. pushing Pakistan into war against Taliban. ?
That remains to be tested. Active participation of Israel does support the claim that Barak family would be highly effective. However, no system in the world is 100% effective and it takes only 1 hit from AShM's today to take down a ship. Besides, the easiest way to defeat a missile shield system is to overwhelm it.
You mean to say it has been put on use without proper testing ?
I gave the example of the Silkworm missile which Pakistan uses... was unable to sink a 1000ton Israeli ship... and the amusing fact that the ship sailed back to service soon enough.
To Hit the ship you need to pass through its defenses.... your ships would have to face the Brahmos missiles which are known to sink Ships without using warheads.
Neither the PN or PAF have enough capability for a saturation attack from air... incidently the Indian navy had such capability from long time... which is also being enhanced to higher levels.
Do you guys even understand the meaning of a BF tactical Nuke? The damage and radiation are small and precise enough to be acceptable as opposed to being overrun. And most importantly, if it ever happens, it will happen close to LoC, away from population.
The damage of Radiation is never small when the photos of Burnt down bodies of children with blisters and other radiation related disease start coming up... the rest of the Public of Pakistan would also be enraged... the effect remains for 100+ years when kids would be born with Physical and mental deficiencies... and would never forget what their own saviors did to them... Pathetic.
Already the Tribals in NWFP and Baluchistan are tired of the small co-lateral killings and damages done by Military to them... the Nuke is only going to increase it to much-much higher level... in simple words it would act as the catalyst to already down faith of Public in their govt. If not finish whatever hope is stopping them from toppling the administration right away.
Should I show you the Population density map of Pakistan ?.. what are you supposed to do once both Lahore and the Thar region... nuke Thar and leave Lahore ?
Even while at LOC small mortar artillery shelling kill as many as half a dozen.. people.. and you talk of Battle field nukes.
Have you ever read about the Song Class Submarines and how one surprised the biggest US Naval exercises? We have moved 2 generations ahead now from Song -> Yuan -> Qing. The biggest advantage that PN will have, aside from being prepared now, would be their defensive role whereby they can sit quietly and wait for IN.
You have not moved any where.
The Chinese submarine technology is anywhere but less that what Russian had during 70s.
The Submarine was allowed to get close enough... in that case with US navy exercise.
Prepared for what... Brahmos ?
I have asked many Indian what they have to show for that surrender and have never actually gotten a reasonable answer. Fact is that we surrendered to the Bengali nation, the instrument was signed with India on behalf of Bangladesh which had no official form then, which is evident from the fact that India won nothing from the internal dispute b/w east and west Pakistan.
Yeah you surrendered to Bangladesh infact... those hardly armed peasant Bengali soldiers armed with spades and sticks got your 90 000 troops surrendered... isn't it ?
Infact they lost the war.
They should have gone ahead and dealt with it once for all... and we won't be discussing about Pakistan.
Furthermore, it is my question, if might India had won such a war then why could they not summon any courage to cross even an inch of border in '99 or '02? What happened to the bravado and the claims of invasion and surgical strikes and what not!
US crossed into into Iraq 12 years after they won the war against them along with allies.... in mean time they made it weak... and put it always under pressure through frequent military built ups.
They have been doing same with Iran since a long time.. did the same with Libya... thaty doesn't mean they don't have courage.
Indian Military and too have been very successful in this regard as far as the current situation in Pakistan shows.
Do what, make tall claims while amassing a million troops at our border taking months and suffering hundreds of casualties in the process declaring cold start methodologies and then withdrawing unconditionally? Well.......what else is to be expected?
You don't understand cold start.. cold start is specifically for mechanized strike divisions... they won't take more than 3 days to reach Pakistan from their bases any where in India... besides Jaisalmer would soon have a strike division.
And those military build ups.. did have a significant role in reducing Terrorist activities in India..
How about Exocets, Harpoons, C-802/803 etc.?
Barak 1 can engage them with ease... even Akash SAM can engage them as effectively.
IN most definately showed what they can do by refusing to engage PNS Ghazi or entering the war, even the much hyped A/C carrier dared not venture out of port. Well, I guess IN was the smarter branch of the military back then.
PNS Ghazi lies at the bottom of the sea... some parts in the museum I guess... yes IN showed its capabilities.
Today it is more advanced and has a Growing submarine fleet.. which includes SSN aswell as SSBN.
The AC carrier was out of the port and in the sea near... Andamand while your PNS ghazi perished looking for it near the port... thats was the difference between IN and PN... two steps ahead even in thinking.