Pakistan's Sticky Wicket: The India-Saudi link

[Secur]

Bozo, despite your hurt feelings, and boasting of your terrorist state, the fact is that the pakistani citizen ansari was not handed over to pakistan despite the begging by your government and ISI but was handed over to India because he is wanted for terrorism.

hahahah

Try to activate your grey matter Why would he be handed over to Pakistan ? If it is well established and admitted by your own country that he's your citizen , ISI was just trying to prevent the extradition ...

In a diplomatic game that involved three countries, India, too, stepped up pressure and sent several documents to the Saudi authorities to establish that Jundal may be using a Pakistani passport, but was actually an Indian citizen.[26]

How much persuasion did it need to get your own national back ? Had to lobby , dignitaries making high level visits to get the custody of their own citizen , yes that hurts

According to Indian Government sources, his arrest came after months of diplomatic negotiations involving authorities in Riyadh, Washington DC, and New Delhi.[14]Indian dignitaries visiting Saudi Arabia in recent months, had also lobbied Saudi authorities for assistance in Ansari’s case.

 

[get straight]

Don't get too happy. That was just America's way of putting pressure on Pakistan to open up the transit route, and open they did. America knows who perpetrated 26/11, they know where the culprits are hiding and who is hiding them. You ll see more such "breakthroughs" if Pakistan doesn't kowtow the American line.

Its quite sad that they are using this for strategic leverage, who cares about the justice to the innocents killed in the 26/11 attacks.

so you mean since american have interests in pakistan, americans are avoiding justice to mumbai attacks??

the truth is that your state requires a daddy which can do all the propaganda work for you, pushing americans into the issue between the two countries mean that you dont seek justice rather you want american pressure on pak to get your own leverage

what is stopping india going to the international court of justice with the fake lists and fake proofs??

BS

 

[notsuperstitious]

All the bozos, India can not seek custody of anyone from a foreign country just because they are 'Indian' if that person and that foreign country do not want it.

He was sent to India because he was wanted in terrorism and that had to be proven. That was done and hence he was sent to India.

Hence his handover to India has nothing to do with his nationality, which now is Pakistani BTW.

 

[Secur]

The proof is that Pakistan wanted him back as he is a citizen of Pakistan and carries a Pakistani passport. Otherwise why would pakistan want a foreign terrorist?

As per Indian law his citizenship got cancelled the moment he got a Pakistani passport. He does not have to surrender it.

Really ? Where does it state that we wanted him back ? We just didn't want him to be extradited to India , that is all ... Your Govt acknowledges him as Indian citizen but is doubtful on his usage of a Pakistani passport Whom are you fooling ?

 

[somebozo]

Really ? When and where did he surrender his Indian passport / nationality ? ... What prove is there of a " legit " Pakistani passport ?





Lobbying and crying around the world for the extradition of their own national ... Thats incredible India for you !

Bozo, despite your hurt feelings, and boasting of your terrorist state, the fact is that the pakistani citizen ansari was not handed over to pakistan despite the begging by your government and ISI but was handed over to India because he is wanted for terrorism.




The proof is that Pakistan wanted him back as he is a citizen of Pakistan and carries a Pakistani passport. Otherwise why would pakistan want a foreign terrorist?

I do not deny that he was a strategic asset for Pakistan and ISI definitely exerted enough pressure to reverse the Saudi decision.
But no minister or chief traveled from Pakistan to KSA to handle this - while India was forced to troll and get the best of the best undeniable evidence to extradict their own citizen. Speaks something.

That too for not somebody ordinary but a high profile target..haha

As per Indian law his citizenship got cancelled the moment he got a Pakistani passport. He does not have to surrender it.

Still they had to show proof of Indian citizenship to facilitate the extradition - despite it got cancelled already.

after incredible i must add epic to the mix as well...

 

[trinity]

Don't get too happy. That was just America's way of putting pressure on Pakistan to open up the transit route, and open they did. America knows who perpetrated 26/11, they know where the culprits are hiding and who is hiding them. You ll see more such "breakthroughs" if Pakistan doesn't kowtow the American line.

Its quite sad that they are using this for strategic leverage, who cares about the justice to the innocents killed in the 26/11 attacks.

Exactly the Americans knew and continue to know whats going on. The only thing is relations between India and the US is getting much better. Saudi, Pakistan, the US, etc. have been allowing terror to happen on Indian soil for decades. Its a no brainer and the result of Cold war attitudes. Times have changed but certain nations don;t want to change.

 

[Secur]

Hence his handover to India has nothing to do with his nationality, which now is Pakistani BTW.

Handover to India has everything to do with nationality , otherwise do you really think Pakistan would allow the kingdom to extradite Pakistanis to India ?

In a diplomatic game that involved three countries, India, too, stepped up pressure and sent several documents to the Saudi authorities to establish that Jundal may be using a Pakistani passport, but was actually an Indian citizen.[26]

Still they had to show proof of Indian citizenship to facilitate the extradition - despite it got cancelled already.

after incredible i must add epic to the mix as well...

They think Saudis would extradite Pakistani nationals to them Epic

 

[notsuperstitious]

I do not deny that he was a strategic asset for Pakistan and ISI definitely exerted enough pressure to reverse the Saudi decision.
But no minister or chief traveled from Pakistan to KSA to handle this - while India was forced to troll and get the best of the best undeniable evidence to extradict their own citizen. Speaks something.

That too for not somebody ordinary but a high profile target..haha

ha ha pakistan despite begging saudi some more, this time for protecting their pakistani passport carrying strategic asset - also called a terrorist, failed to stop saudis from sending ansari to India. Awwe that rearhurt is showing in your empty boasting.

There I replied in your own words, except I did not show to be a terrorist supporter like you did.

 

[KRAIT]

Handover to India has everything to do with nationality , otherwise do you really think Pakistan would allow the kingdom to extradite Pakistanis to India ?

.....Since when Pakistan have control over KSA and its policies.

What KSA did is matter of India and KSA, KSA is already improving its relationship with India. Even if that means extraditing known terrorist India is looking for.

 

[Secur]

ha ha pakistan despite begging saudi some more, this time for protecting their pakistani passport carrying strategic asset - also called a terrorist, failed to stop saudis from sending ansari to India. Awwe that rearhurt is showing in your empty boasting.

There I replied in your own words.

Pakistan begging ? How many ministers or cheifs visited the kingdom for him or went to Washington to convince the Saudis like their Indian counterparts ?

But sad to see a country begging and paying visits to Sheikhs to get the custody of their own citizen

.....Since when Pakistan have control over KSA and its policies.

Since when did countries handover citizens of other countries to another one ? ... I never mentioned any Pakistani control over Saudi policies ... Did I ?

 

[get straight]

.....Since when Pakistan have control over KSA and its policies.

while america wanted to extradite bin laden family to america, pakistan handed them to the saudis

so its all about principles and which highly effect international relations if you have some knowledge about that

saudis cant just hand over some pakistani national to india just because he was wanted by indians, india is not a shupar powar like america

 

[Secur]

What KSA did is matter of India and KSA, KSA is already improving its relationship with India. Even if that means extraditing known terrorist India is looking for.

Actually , you need to add USA too since they convinced the Saudis to hand him over

 

[KRAIT]

Same Sheiks did provide money to some factions in certain country didn't they....to work against India. Why there is change of tide? May be they see India as better bet than Pakistan as former one offers more to them.

Considering present conditions, India keep exporting oil from Iran even when KSA said it will increase its production to meet growing need.

It all comes back to business and economics. While US is considered as enemy of Islam, KSA is their best buddy. Here goes the brotherhood.

 

[somebozo]

Really ? When and where did he surrender his Indian passport / nationality ? ... What prove is there of a " legit " Pakistani passport ?





Lobbying and crying around the world for the extradition of their own national ... Thats incredible India for you !

Bozo, despite your hurt feelings, and boasting of your terrorist state (as per your boasting, not mine), the fact is that the pakistani citizen ansari was not handed over to pakistan despite the begging by your government and ISI but was handed over to India because he is wanted for terrorism.




The proof is that Pakistan wanted him back as he is a citizen of Pakistan and carries a Pakistani passport. Otherwise why would pakistan want a foreign terrorist?

As per Indian law his citizenship got cancelled the moment he got a Pakistani passport. He does not have to surrender it.

ha ha pakistan despite begging saudi some more, this time for protecting their pakistani passport carrying strategic asset - also called a terrorist, failed to stop saudis from sending ansari to India. Awwe that rearhurt is showing in your empty boasting.

There I replied in your own words, except I did not show to be a terrorist supporter like you did.

Yep forced to eat dirt and bring evidence of their cancelled "Indian Citizenship"...
New height of international political trolling achieved.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Atleast somebozo and I agree that Pakistan is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Where we disagree is that he thinks ansari's handover to India shows how poor India's relations with Saudi are, whereas I see that as a positive sign.

I think he has his reasons to believe what he chooses to - childhood indoctrination, natural love for terrorism, general aversion to logical thinking, rearhurt etc etc. We must give him the benefit of the doubt but must stick to our conclusions.