Pakistan's Special Operations Forces: SSG | SSGN | SSW | SOW | SOG

[PanzerKiel]

 

[Amaa'n]

Ahh, Pakistani SOF Command. How long do you gonna stick with old school gear, weapon manipulation/handling and operational skills??

Working lightweight is the best way to go, having worked in private security i can tell you that it's not an easy task to move around in your Kevlar day in day out, especially when it gets humid or extremely hot, you just want to remove all that gear and die in peace. If i could afford i would have bought myself a nice yet expensive plate career / chest rig to improve my maneuverability but that means you comprise on your life too. The kind of work i was doing required me to wear an overt vest style Kevlar & i would get extremely uncomfortable in those, even leaning down or kneeing would be troublesome in those vests. So i can understand why people who have no fear of death would prefer to fight free style

 

[Metal 0-1]

Working lightweight is the best way to go, having worked in private security i can tell you that it's not an easy task to move around in your Kevlar day in day out, especially when it gets humid or extremely hot, you just want to remove all that gear and die in peace. If i could afford i would have bought myself a nice yet expensive plate career / chest rig to improve my maneuverability but that means you comprise on your life too. The kind of work i was doing required me to wear an overt vest style Kevlar & i would get extremely uncomfortable in those, even leaning down or kneeing would be troublesome in those vests. So i can understand why people who have no fear of death would prefer to fight free style

What you are saying is only a thing when you are long range combat patrol. (on foot)
What if you are in urban environment on a raid wearing a headband and a load-carrying vest. You still want choose your way.
Tell this to modern special forces around the globe..

That's a time consuming discussion. Will write about this someday.

Now can we talk about old school weapon manipulation/handling and operational skill sets.

 

[PanzerKiel]

 

[Metal 0-1]

Last two pictures have been posted before...

 

[PanzerKiel]

Last two pictures have been posted before...

Sorry, my bad.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Sorry, my bad.

Happens

 

[Sage]

Capt Sikander, 2 Cdo

Capt Sikander, 2 Cdo, on the right while Col Suleman, CO 2 Cdo in the centre. Both attained shahadat in the famous ambush on Ghazi company of 2 Cdo.

Which ambush ?

 

[Cuirassier]

Which ambush ?

By defected troops of East Pakistan Rifles and East Bengal Regiment at the outskirts of Chittagong. CO of 2 Commando and an attached Signals officer were also killed.

 

[Sage]

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alas, some have already left us....

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Two shaheeds.....sir Salman Lodhi and sir Bilal Zafar....

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The old ones, the dangerous ones..... full of skill and war-craft.....(no negatives for the present generation though, they are fighting an entirely different war.....but both generations were / are masters of their times.....)

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With SAS...

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Officers of OACC-5

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Col Qasim Rizvi, expert of Ops behind enemy lines.....as early as 1978 (yes, 1978, not 79), he was operating north of Amu River (do please google it see its alignment) in USSR along with SSG dets....just one of those many, unsung heroes whom we owe too much, but alas, we know very little......no dearth of heroes in Allah's Pakistan.

Col Haroon and Capt Salman (shaheeds), same mission, same destination!
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Brig Yasub Dogar (SSG), having a cup of qahwa with Gardez bombardment going on in the background (imagine that).....

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Brig Yasub Dogar (SSG) and Lt Gen(later) Afzal Jangua, SJ (SSG)....two of the SSG greats of Afghan War....in Afghanistan.

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Col Suleman (The Magnificient), recently passed away.

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Col Suleman (The Magnificient), SSG

I personally had long chats and conversations with Col Suleman just a year before his sad demise...At 70, he was blessed with a baby...to whom he would call 'monster'...he would be like, ' wait, let me see the little monster, he needs my attention'. He told me much stuff about Gen Mush ...I wanted to write an authentic book on the SSG those days ...He even offered me his help to set up a meeting with General Bhutta....great man ....May his sould rest in peace....

By defected troops of East Pakistan Rifles and East Bengal Regiment at the outskirts of Chittagong. CO of 2 Commando and an attached Signals officer were also killed.

Oh...so it was all about the uneasy history ...

 

[Kompromat]

I need full HD image.

 

[Signalian]

Ameer Faisal Alvi, Group Command and later GOC SSG (here as Commander of 19 IABG, late 90s)

A friend whose father is a high ranking official, got married to one of Gen Alvi's daughters after his death. Both their fathers were close friends in military careers.

 

[pzfz]

Working lightweight is the best way to go, having worked in private security i can tell you that it's not an easy task to move around in your Kevlar day in day out, especially when it gets humid or extremely hot, you just want to remove all that gear and die in peace. If i could afford i would have bought myself a nice yet expensive plate career / chest rig to improve my maneuverability but that means you comprise on your life too. The kind of work i was doing required me to wear an overt vest style Kevlar & i would get extremely uncomfortable in those, even leaning down or kneeing would be troublesome in those vests. So i can understand why people who have no fear of death would prefer to fight free style

Let's just ignore the weapons handling and skills (where Pak SFs also lack) and stay on gear: Old school gear is heavy and cumbersome. New school gear is lighter and enhances ur fighting capability. Their helmets are heavier. As are the vests, the bots, the comms gear etc. The pics u see, even the best of times, are SSG carrying tacvests/backpacks ON TOP of an old school bp vest or plate carrier; u wanna tell me they don't want to go lighter and are worried about distance? These days lighter ppe combine all that into a lighter platform. It's available, use it!

Pak isn't martian terrain not found anywhere else on earth. SFs operating in the region AND in hotter climates have availed themselves of tacop multipliers (hell ANA next door even PLA are fielding newer n better equipment), no reason for myopic Pak generals to not start doing the same. Not doing so is blatant disregard for the lives of our jawans and our security interests.

Let's not glorify dying in this day n age. SFs are there to be the sharp edge of the sword and execute/kill their objectives; not to satisfy lust for bravery p0£n.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not sure if posted before

 

[PanzerKiel]

I need full HD image.

Lets see whether i can tell a SSG chap to pose for a pic in the same pose, same weapon, cigarette ofcourse....