Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes but Pakistan is also looking to replace MG3 and for that MINIMI 7.62 X 51 are most favorite

Doubt that.

MG3 is an excellent machine gun.

 

[Zarvan]

Doubt that.

MG3 is an excellent machine gun.

I had also no idea that we could have been thinking of replacing MG 3 anytime soon it's one MOD of this forum who broke the news to me that not only Assault Rifles are being tested but Pakistan is also testing HandGuns and Machine Guns.

 

[khanasifm]

Mg3 is good in fixed palcement or vehicle mounted but not for dismounted troops, too heavy and big by today's std.

 

[That Guy]

Mg3 is good in fixed palcement or vehicle mounted but not for dismounted troops, too heavy and big by today's std.

Agreed.

MG3 had it's place in history, but it's time to move on. It's more of a liability now to infantry, than an asset.

 

[Gryphon]

thats a Beretta ARX200!

Are you sure that is the ARX-200 ? 2nd or 3rd rifle (starting from SCAR) is a Minimi. I have seen a report debating it's presence among the weapons shown to former COAS.

BTW, I just saw the below pic of a CZ 807 from IDEAS 2016. Look what is written in the background.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @That Guy @Areesh

 

[Fenrir]

Agreed.

MG3 had it's place in history, but it's time to move on. It's more of a liability now to infantry, than an asset.

Eh, I look at it as a usage issue. It's big and cumbersome making it great as a fixed gun emplacement or ship self defense weapon, but poor for maneuver warfare or supporting fast moving infantry. As such you typically see it used in such a manner.

No one's going around firing the damn thing from the hip like a 30 cal Stinger.

For supporting infantry assaults, lighter weapons are always going to be preferred.

The gun is fine. How it's being used needs to be reexamined and a shift in tactical usage reassessed.

That said for infantry support I whole heartedly support a shift towards a lighter more portable weapon like the FN Minimi.

 

[Zarvan]

Eh, I look at it as a usage issue. It's big and cumbersome making it great as a fixed gun emplacement or ship self defense weapon, but poor for maneuver warfare or supporting fast moving infantry. As such you typically see it used in such a manner.

No one's going around firing the damn thing from the hip like a 30 cal Stinger.

For supporting infantry assaults, lighter weapons are always going to be preferred.

The gun is fine. How it's being used needs to be reexamined and a shift in tactical usage reassessed.

That said for infantry support I whole heartedly support a shift towards a lighter more portable weapon like the FN Minimi.

That is exactly what we are doing MG 3 will remain in service but where it could be placed stationery for fire support but on section level lighter machine Gun is needed.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Eh, I look at it as a usage issue. It's big and cumbersome making it great as a fixed gun emplacement or ship self defense weapon, but poor for maneuver warfare or supporting fast moving infantry. As such you typically see it used in such a manner.

No one's going around firing the damn thing from the hip like a 30 cal Stinger.

For supporting infantry assaults, lighter weapons are always going to be preferred.

The gun is fine. How it's being used needs to be reexamined and a shift in tactical usage reassessed.

That said for infantry support I whole heartedly support a shift towards a lighter more portable weapon like the FN Minimi.

Danes in Afghanistan

Estonians in A'Stan;

Germans;

Belgian SF ;

Pak Army;

MG3 upgrade

Pak Army

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Eh, I look at it as a usage issue. It's big and cumbersome making it great as a fixed gun emplacement or ship self defense weapon, but poor for maneuver warfare or supporting fast moving infantry. As such you typically see it used in such a manner.

No one's going around firing the damn thing from the hip like a 30 cal Stinger.

For supporting infantry assaults, lighter weapons are always going to be preferred.

The gun is fine. How it's being used needs to be reexamined and a shift in tactical usage reassessed.

That said for infantry support I whole heartedly support a shift towards a lighter more portable weapon like the FN Minimi.

Meanwhile Pak special forces are already using minis.

 

[Cornered Tiger]

Are you sure that is the ARX-200 ? 2nd or 3rd rifle (starting from SCAR) is a Minimi. I have seen a report debating it's presence among the weapons shown to former COAS.

BTW, I just saw the below pic of a CZ 807 from IDEAS 2016. Look what is written in the background.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @That Guy @Areesh

@TheOccupiedKashmir So CZ-806 Bren 2 type modified CZ-807 has been selected to replace Type-56? Is Pakistan going to use it as Assault Rifle i.e. in border areas as Type-56 is the standard Assault Rifle of Army?

 

[Gryphon]

Meanwhile Pak special forces are already using minis.

In limited numbers and probably the 5.56 mm variant.

 

[Zarvan]

@TheOccupiedKashmir So CZ-806 Bren 2 type modified CZ-807 has been selected to replace Type-56? Is Pakistan going to use it as Assault Rifle i.e. in border areas as Type-56 is the standard Assault Rifle of Army?

Pakistan is pretty much using both Type 56 and G3 as standard Assault Rifles.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

CZ 807 Bren Rifle Looks sexy, Good luck Army

 

[Path-Finder]

Are you sure that is the ARX-200 ? 2nd or 3rd rifle (starting from SCAR) is a Minimi. I have seen a report debating it's presence among the weapons shown to former COAS.

BTW, I just saw the below pic of a CZ 807 from IDEAS 2016. Look what is written in the background.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @That Guy @Areesh

that is ARX200 and a Italian guy from Beretta is standing in front of him infact there is a video and pics of that table in the pinned thread.

Wait a minute that says ammo used 7.62x51 and that is the CZ booth!!! [ Hazrat @Zarvan ] ooooooh the rabbit hole goes very deep!! This will cause even more heart ache

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Are you sure that is the ARX-200 ? 2nd or 3rd rifle (starting from SCAR) is a Minimi. I have seen a report debating it's presence among the weapons shown to former COAS.

BTW, I just saw the below pic of a CZ 807 from IDEAS 2016. Look what is written in the background.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @That Guy @Areesh

Well the cz that guy is holding is 807 in 7.62x39 for sure, based on the curved mag. The chart does say the ammo is 7.62x51 but doesnt specify the gun ... could be scar h, arx200 or g3 or even your speculated bren 2 in 7.62x51. Cant say anything for sure ... to me it looks like the rifle name should be written on the chart, but gun seems to be in the way.
Anyone one knows this person? please ask him if there is a 7.62x51 version under trial for bren if possible. I doubt it is under trial with PA right now even if it exists in CZ's labs.

Regards