Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Maula Jatt]

We're wasting Raheel Shareef on Saudi. He should be working for Pakistan in some capacity.

COAS 2.0?

 

[fitpOsitive]

Review of the new MPT

Seems like a copy of an Italian gun.

 

[Inception-06]

 

[RAMPAGE]

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Care to speculate why there is an extra inch and a half between the stock and the grip? That is unusually long. Perhaps it has to do with the recoil dampening measures to which Mr Salman alluded?

 

[Invictus01]

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Lol

Who mount's a thermal sight on a Chinese
aftermarket dust cover rail that doesn't even hold zero?
Even if it does hold zero which I doubt it does considering you have to remove the dust cover to clean the rifle
AK can hardly manage a 2MOA group at 100 meters

We need serious people that know a thing or two about small arms to be incharge of acquisitions in the army
Piss poor Job tbh

 

[blain2]

Lol

Who mount's a thermal sight on a Chinese
aftermarket dust cover rail that doesn't even hold zero?
Even if it does hold zero which I doubt it does considering you have to remove the dust cover to clean the rifle
AK can hardly manage a 2MOA group at 100 meters

We need serious people that know a thing or two about small arms to be incharge of acquisitions in the army
Piss poor Job tbh

Ok, think through the situation on hand. There are hundreds of thousands of these rifles in service in quite a few hotspots i.e. Balochistan and FATA etc. The terrorists move at night time so thermal imaging is needed to keep an eye. Given the high cost of such scopes, only a few get this at the section level (not every Jawan gets one). As such even if the rifle cannot hold zero with the sight on, getting shots in the vicinity of the terrorists puts them on notice and has a deterrence value which saves lives. I don't care who it is, if they are moving at night time and getting rounds impacting in the direction of where they are coming from, they are pausing. Thus the sight has efficacy even if limited (removing, re-zeroing etc. are all valid but there are bigger problems at hand than these issues.)

Also, I can guarantee the ones working on these enhancements are quite knowledgable about the topic on hand but are having to work around multiple constraints. Most foreign small arms manufacturers who have been to Pakistan to field their wares have come away realizing that Pakistani army does a pretty in-depth and detailed analysis and knows what it wants (but perhaps is not willing to pay the price for what it wants.).

The answer to your post would be to replace the significant inventory of small arms in use to give the troops a more stable platform for thermal sites. In the short term at least that is not an option. So "juggad" is the solution till then.

 

[MastanKhan]

Lol

Who mount's a thermal sight on a Chinese
aftermarket dust cover rail that doesn't even hold zero?
Even if it does hold zero which I doubt it does considering you have to remove the dust cover to clean the rifle
AK can hardly manage a 2MOA group at 100 meters

We need serious people that know a thing or two about small arms to be incharge of acquisitions in the army
Piss poor Job tbh

That is possibly a Dragunov sniper rifle.

 

[PanzerKiel]

That is possibly a Dragunov sniper rifle.

The first one is Type 56-II assault rifle while in the background is G3A3.

 

[Yasser76]

PAF will have stealth planes, PN will have nuke subs, Pak Army will still be using G-3....

 

[Raja Porus]

Lol

Who mount's a thermal sight on a Chinese
aftermarket dust cover rail that doesn't even hold zero?
Even if it does hold zero which I doubt it does considering you have to remove the dust cover to clean the rifle
AK can hardly manage a 2MOA group at 100 meters

We need serious people that know a thing or two about small arms to be incharge of acquisitions in the army
Piss poor Job tbh

Alot better than not being able to see your enemy at night, while he, on the other hand is equipped with the latest NVGs. Atleast you know where the fire is coming from and you can provide suppressing fire. Morale booster is another factor.

 

[Path-Finder]

 

[Great Janjua]

Why not give POF or GIDS a tender for locally modifying the type 56 by army requirements. This will help improve proficiency and R&D for future army gun projects.

Like India's Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) did to their Bulgarian ak types.

 

[Great Janjua]

I mean right now the best bet would be the Turkish option of MPT 76 with a tot or going along with POF developments which will take quite some time due to rifle tests.

But seriously the Turks are killing the small arms industry I hope we examine their products, especially their lightweight machine guns and rifles. Top-Notch stuff.


7.62mm Battle rifle.

DMR

5.56mm Machine gun

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Why not give POF or GIDS a tender for locally modifying the type 56 by army requirements. This will help improve proficiency and R&D for future army gun projects.

Like India's Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) did to their Bulgarian ak types.

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They are using israeli FAB defence accessories.

 

[blain2]

I mean right now the best bet would be the Turkish option of MPT 76 with a tot or going along with POF developments which will take quite some time due to rifle tests.

But seriously the Turks are killing the small arms industry I hope we examine their products, especially their lightweight machine guns and rifles. Top-Notch stuff.


7.62mm Battle rifle.
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DMR
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5.56mm Machine gun
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These Turkish rifles were trialed too. Don't think they made the cut (could have been rejected on quality, high pricing, no local manufacturing etc. etc.)