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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
7.62x39mm CZ 807s in use by Egyptian Security Forces, Possible option to Manufacture in Egypt

by Miles
2017/12/19

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Photographs of Egyptian Security Forces armed with 7.62x39mm CZ 807s have recently surfaced, thanks to the efforts of Egypt Defense Review and Mahmoud Gamal, both in-depth analysts of Egyptian defenseprograms. The 7.62x39mm rifles were recently seen in what appears to be a joint operation with Egyptian Paratroopers and Sa’ka special forces in Egypt. In 2013 we reported that a large contract with Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ) had taken place wherein CZ P-07 handguns, Scorpions, and 5.56x45mm CZ 805s were purchased. From the images, at the time it would appear that this was a law enforcement program to Egyptian police forces separate from the defense forces. Now, from various sources online, it looks like Egypt is actually interested in manufacturing the 807 at home, purchasing a manufacturing license from CZ. This process appears to have picked up in May of this year, and there isn’t much information beyond that. We also have a post on Egypt Defense Portal that has this to say about the technology transfer (Google Translate)-

After the announcement by Lubomír Kovaíík, the head of Czech small armsmanufacturer Česká Zbrojovka CZ during a press conference in February with the Czech newspaper Deník, that Egypt had begun negotiations with the company to transfer manufacturing technology For the CZ 807 double-caliber assault rifle (39 x 7.62 mm Soviet and 45 x 5.56 mm NATO), explaining that the conclusion of the contract depends on the results of the test of Egypt for the Venice current period and to complement the previous report we review the most important features of the gun and its technical specifications.

It must be noted that the 807 Bren is actually a dual caliber rifle, unlike the earlier 5.56x45mm NATO 805 that it is derived from. Initially comes with a lower receiver that accepts proprietary CZ 7.62x39mm magazines (and matching interchangeable barrel/bolt). These magazines are of note because they are direct insert and not at all compatible with standard Kalashnikov magazines with the “rock in” magazinerelease. Inserting a STANAG magazine insert allows the use of 5.56x45mm NATO magazines to used, along with changing out the interchangeable barrel and the bolt.

This photograph was chared on Egypt Defense Review’s Twitter feed

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In addition to these two on Mahmoud Gamal’s Twitter feed-

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7.62x39mm CZ 807s in use by Egyptian Security Forces, Possible option to Manufacture in Egypt | thefirearmblog.com

Hazrat @Zarvan months ago I posted here that Egypt is going for/interested in CZ 807 as it was linked to Pakistani Trials and you pulled some source out from somewhere that no Egypt is not going for CZ!

Why are they getting CZ then?


Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.
 
Hazrat @Zarvan months ago I posted here that Egypt is going for/interested in CZ 807 as it was linked to Pakistani Trials and you pulled some source out from somewhere that no Egypt is not going for CZ!

Why are they getting CZ then?


Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.
I heard the news of CZ 807 but than it totally vanished and instead most Egyptian guys were being seen with Beretta so as soon vanished many thought that they are not coming even now they are still rumors nothing solid or deal yet.
 
I doubt if it will ever make it to Pakistan. 34 Light Infantry Division, currently being raised by PA, is getting new Type 56's. :hitwall:
Off Course they will until we select Rifle and place order even if we do it now it would take at least 2 years for production to start and if we order let say 100000 from the company even that would take at least 6 months for first batch to arrive so if you are raising new Division you have to give them current weapons
 
Wese guys any updates from POF or any other official source???
Does this egyptian deal means our dreams of CZ BREN in PA are over???
I doubt if it will ever make it to Pakistan. 34 Light Infantry Division, currently being raised by PA, is getting new Type 56's. :hitwall:


Off Course they will until we select Rifle and place order even if we do it now it would take at least 2 years for production to start and if we order let say 100000 from the company even that would take at least 6 months for first batch to arrive so if you are raising new Division you have to give them current weapons
 
Wese guys any updates from POF or any other official source???
Does this egyptian deal means our dreams of CZ BREN in PA are over???
No not at all if we are satisfied with CZ we can also go for them and CZ company would love to give us TOT
 
MSBS "Grot" is very popular among NATO and Allied countries. The PGZ Group is currently conducting talks on the possibility of providing these modern rifles to for example Estonia and Pakistan. The issue of having full patent rights allows PGZ to fully address the demand of a potential client seeking not only high-quality weapons, but also a wide training package and - in the case of large orders - technology transfer.

First GROT rifles in the Polish Armed Forces
 
Both CZ and BREN seem to be strong contenders.
Cz gives many options such as EVO,handguns and BREN

Radom gives both rifle and bullpup.
Interesting!!
 
Both CZ and BREN seem to be strong contenders.
Cz gives many options such as EVO,handguns and BREN

Radom gives both rifle and bullpup.
Interesting!!
CZ and BREN are same thing JAnab

MSBS "Grot" is very popular among NATO and Allied countries. The PGZ Group is currently conducting talks on the possibility of providing these modern rifles to for example Estonia and Pakistan. The issue of having full patent rights allows PGZ to fully address the demand of a potential client seeking not only high-quality weapons, but also a wide training package and - in the case of large orders - technology transfer.

First GROT rifles in the Polish Armed Forces
It seem we are in talks with every one from BREN to Beretta to SCAR to AK we seem to be in talks with every one
 

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