Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[MystryMan]

Probably, but I don't have any first hand knowledge to confirm or deny that.



That (in red) is not an intelligent post.

To put things in perspective, Pakistan needs to new rifles
1 - Current G3 (7.62x51) - Final contenders FN Scar H & Beretta ARX200
2 - Current Type 56 (7.62x390 - Final contender CZ 807

From financial, manufacturing, and operational point of view the best solution would be to select both calibers from the same manufacturer. That would require half the investment in production facilities and cost a lot cheaper per unit because of commonality of component, in fact just by changing the barrel, magazine and magazine well insert you can convert one caliber to the other. I think we should go with CZ as they are ready and willing to give full TOT and exporting rights.

Personally I would prefer the PA to go for SCAR for special forces (due to cost factor) and CZ for infantry for both x39 and x51 version even if we have to wait for CZ to bring its x51 up to speed.

 

[Zarvan]

FN Scar
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This is Berreta ARX 200

Personally I would prefer the PA to go for SCAR for special forces (due to cost factor) and CZ for infantry for both x39 and x51 version even if we have to wait for CZ to bring its x51 up to speed.

For once people 20 companies wanted to come we invited 5 out of which two are most expensive Guns. We knew about the cost before starting trials

 

[Arsalan]

Personally I would prefer the PA to go for SCAR for special forces (due to cost factor) and CZ for infantry for both x39 and x51 version even if we have to wait for CZ to bring its x51 up to speed.

x51 from CZ was evaluated later on.

 

[Path-Finder]

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got any more pics?

It appears to be test for x51 comparing with G3 which can be seen in the pics as well most likely summertime!

 

[Zarvan]

got any more pics?

It appears to be test for x51 comparing with G3 which can be seen in the pics as well most likely summertime!

Yes Rifles in X 51 were pitched against G3.

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes Rifles in X 51 were pitched against G3.

Hazrat did you feel when you saw the pics? I see you wasted no time in changing your DP .

 

[MystryMan]

This is Berreta ARX 200


For once people 20 companies wanted to come we invited 5 out of which two are most expensive Guns. We knew about the cost before starting trials

I said it bcz if we can get CZ with near similar capability of Scar at reduced price then we can use the saved funds on other gadgets like sights, ubgl, better comm gear etc.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

x51 from CZ was evaluated later on.

never seen x51 from CZ so far ...

 

[Path-Finder]

never seen x51 from CZ so far ...

Guy in the prone position is on a CZ which has not been officially unveiled to public!

 

[Zarvan]

Guy in the prone position is on a CZ which has not been officially unveiled to public!

If the black one is really CZ than @Horus was right that the version which we tested of CZ is Marksman version

 

[Path-Finder]

If the black one is really CZ than @Horus was right that the version which we tested of CZ is Marksman version

Hazrat go back some pages I cracked the rifle as being CZ!!! On this very thread!!

 

[Arsalan]

never seen x51 from CZ so far ...

It was at IDEAS as well.
Or are you talking about never seeing it being evaluated?

 

[Zarvan]

Hazrat go back some pages I cracked the rifle as being CZ!!! On this very thread!!

First I know you said this Gun is x 51 in fact I was the first one to post this picture in some thread. Secondly @Horus told me that the BREN x 51 which Pakistan tested whose poster I mean that one with bullet wholes was shown at IDEAS was Marksman version much before this picture appeared.

It was at IDEAS as well.
Or are you talking about never seeing it being evaluated?

No it wasn't at IDEAS. At ideas they only showed the firing results of x 51 they didn't showed the rifle. Only weapon which was shown was CZ 807

 

[Gryphon]

In a recent conversation with @TheOccupiedKashmir, PhDr. Ondrej Podel (Head of Project Pakistan, CZ) dismissed rumours that CZ 807 exploded during Pakistan Army trials. He said "no explosion occured to any of our rifles. You have seen the proof target signed by authorities – accuracy after 10,000 rds – exploded rifle wouldn't do that. Trials were observed and reported by many authorities and OEM's were present to all tests as witness."

Regarding last month's presentation in Balochistan, he said that "As I have declared before, Pakistan is key partner for CZ and therefore we are very active in Pakistan. 7.62x51 was there as well, but was not released for media photoshoot. And yes 7.62x51 is part of trials."

Asked to comment on the ongoing negotiations, he said "Final stage may take even few months till everything is tuned up to everyone's satisfaction, because we work with Win - Win strategy."

 

[Path-Finder]

In a recent conversation with @TheOccupiedKashmir, PhDr. Ondrej Podel (Head of Project Pakistan, CZ) dismissed rumours that CZ 807 exploded during Pakistan Army trials. He said "no explosion occured to any of our rifles. You have seen the proof target signed by authorities – accuracy after 10,000 rds – exploded rifle wouldn't do that. Trials were observed and reported by many authorities and OEM's were present to all tests as witness."

Regarding last month's presentation in Balochistan, he said that "As I have declared before, Pakistan is key partner for CZ and therefore we are very active in Pakistan. 7.62x51 was there as well, but was not released for media photoshoot. And yes 7.62x51 is part of trials."

Asked to comment on the ongoing negotiations, he said "Final stage may take even few months till everything is tuned up to everyone's satisfaction, because we work with Win - Win strategy."

PhDr. Ondrej Podel has to be the guy in the video talking about ToT with POF?