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WASHINGTON — Three months ago, American intelligence officials examining satellite photographs of Pakistani nuclear facilities saw the first wisps of steam from the cooling towers of a new nuclear reactor. It was one of three plants being constructed to make fuel for a second generation of nuclear arms.

The message of those photos was clear: While Pakistan struggles to make sure its weapons and nuclear labs are not vulnerable to attack by Al Qaeda, the country is getting ready to greatly expand its production of weapons-grade fuel.

The Pakistanis insist that they have no choice. A nuclear deal that India signed with the United States during the Bush administration ended a long moratorium on providing India with the fuel and technology for desperately needed nuclear power plants.

Now, as critics of the arrangement point out, the agreement frees up older facilities that India can devote to making its own new generation of weapons, escalating one arms race even as President Obama and President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia sign accords to shrink arsenals built during the cold war.

Mr. Obama met with the leaders of India and Pakistan on Sunday, a day ahead of a two-day Washington gathering with 47 nations devoted to the question of how to keep nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists. In remarks to reporters about the summit meeting, Mr. Obama called the possibility of a terrorist organization obtaining a nuclear weapon “the single biggest threat to U.S. security, both short-term, medium-term and long-term.”

The summit meeting is the largest gathering of world leaders called by an American president since Franklin D. Roosevelt organized the 1945 meeting in San Francisco that created the United Nations. (He died two weeks before the session opened.) But for all its symbolism and ceremony, this meeting has quite limited goals: seeking ways to better secure existing supplies of bomb-usable plutonium and highly enriched uranium. The problem that India and Pakistan represent, though, is deliberately not on the agenda.

“President Obama is focusing high-level attention on the threat that already exists out there, and that’s tremendously important,” said Sam Nunn, the former Democratic senator from Georgia who has devoted himself to safeguarding global stockpiles of weapons material — enough, by some estimates, to build more than 100,000 atom bombs. “But the fact is that new production adds greatly to the problem.”

Nowhere is that truer than Pakistan, where two Taliban insurgencies and Al Qaeda coexist with the world’s fastest-growing nuclear arsenal. According to a senior American official, Mr. Obama used his private meeting Sunday afternoon with Yousaf Raza Gilani, Pakistan’s newly empowered prime minister, to “express disappointment” that Pakistan is blocking the opening of negotiations on a treaty that would halt production of new nuclear material around the world.

Experts say accelerated production in Pakistan translates into much increased risk.

“The challenges are getting greater — the increasing extremism, the increasing instability, the increasing material,” said Rolf Mowatt-Larssen of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, who as a C.I.A. officer and then head of the Energy Department’s intelligence unit ran much of the effort to understand Al Qaeda’s nuclear ambitions.

“That’s going to complicate efforts to make sure nothing leaks,” he said. “The trends mean the Pakistani authorities have a greater challenge.”

Few subjects are more delicate in Washington. In an interview last Monday, Mr. Obama avoided a question about his progress in building on a five-year, $100 million Bush administration program to safeguard Pakistan’s arms and materials.

“I feel confident that Pakistan has secured its nuclear weapons,” Mr. Obama said. “I am concerned about nuclear security all around the world, not just in Pakistan but everywhere.” He added, “One of my biggest concerns has to do with the loose nuclear materials that are still floating out there.”

Taking up the Pakistan-India arms race at the summit meeting, administration officials say, would be “too politically divisive.”

“We’re focusing on protecting existing nuclear material, because we think that’s what everyone can agree on,” one senior administration official said in an interview on Friday. To press countries to cut off production of new weapons-grade material, he said, “would take us into questions of proliferation, nuclear-free zones and nuclear disarmament on which there is no agreement.”

Mr. Obama said he expected “some very specific commitments” from world leaders.

“Our expectation is not that there’s just some vague, gauzy statement about us not wanting to see loose nuclear materials,” he said. “We anticipate a communiqué that spells out very clearly, here’s how we’re going to achieve locking down all the nuclear materials over the next four years, with very specific steps in order to assure that.”

Those efforts began at the end of the cold war, 20 years ago. Today officials are more sanguine about the former Soviet stockpiles and the focus is now wider. Last month, American experts removed weapons-grade material from earthquake-damaged Chile.

Leaders Gather for Nuclear Talks as New Threat Is Seen - NYTimes.com
 
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wellll they say that they are pakistans friend but when ever they get chance to spy pakistan they happily do it i hope our leaders stop going to USA and they should stop saying that USA is pakistan's ALLY
 
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From various media estimates, it is clear that Pakistan leads the number of nuclear warhead count against India.

India has signed a nuclear deal with US, Russia, France,... that is in the civil nuclear space and any fuel that is purchased has to be accounted for and can be consumed in a nuclear reactor for power generation and other peaceful applications. Even the spent fuel has a fixed application and will not be allowed to be used to create weapons.

Indian capacity to produce weapon grade atomic material has not changes but by pursuing an aggressive stance, Pakistan is clearly fuelling a nuclear weapon race that will result in the unthinkable.

About the author's argument of a few nuclear reactors freed up for weapons, India was using each nuclear reactor for an application it suits best. By claiming that India is using the other reactors for purely weapon development is fantasy. India has the largest reserves of thorium and research to make use of this natural resource has resulted in a lot of interest towards fast breeder reactors and fundamental research. Today, a clear cut separation of the nuclear installation is a clean and clear way to open the door for inspection but at the same time commit a part of your resource to applications that are tailored for your requirement.

India has always had more reactors than Pakistan but yet India has lower number of war heads. If Pakistan start pushing the envelope, India will fill up its mail box, ready for delivery if a need arises.


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From various media estimates, it is clear that Pakistan leads the number of nuclear warhead count against India.

India has signed a nuclear deal with US, Russia, France,... that is in the civil nuclear space and any fuel that is purchased has to be accounted for and can be consumed in a nuclear reactor for power generation and other peaceful applications. Even the spent fuel has a fixed application and will not be allowed to be used to create weapons.

Indian capacity to produce weapon grade atomic material has not changes but by pursuing an aggressive stance, Pakistan is clearly fuelling a nuclear weapon race that will result in the unthinkable.

About the author's argument of a few nuclear reactors freed up for weapons, India was using each nuclear reactor for an application it suits best. By claiming that India is using the other reactors for purely weapon development is fantasy. India has the largest reserves of thorium and research to make use of this natural resource has resulted in a lot of interest towards fast breeder reactors and fundamental research. Today, a clear cut separation of the nuclear installation is a clean and clear way to open the door for inspection but at the same time commit a part of your resource to applications that are tailored for your requirement.

India has always had more reactors than Pakistan but yet India has lower number of war heads. If Pakistan start pushing the envelope, India will fill up its mail box, ready for delivery if a need arises.


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This is all BS man. The weapons procurement by India such as new submarines, air craft carriers/ planes, spy satellites, missiles, helicopters, radars etc is not a a dowry from Sania Mirza to Shoab Malik.
 
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This is all BS man. The weapons procurement by India such as new submarines, air craft carriers/ planes, spy satellites, missiles, helicopters, radars etc is not a a dowry from Sania Mirza to Shoab Malik.

You are talking about conventional weaponary not nuclear.
 
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You are talking about conventional weaponary not nuclear.

Who knows that India is not making more weapons?
News paper sources don't have insides do they?
I am sure that India is countering Pakistan's Nuclear strategy.
 
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Thats a good news i think as it may speed up the process to aquire the desired number of warheads.

After its accheived we should slow down that program and cap it while we should transfer most of the assets towards Power genearation .

Regards:
 
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Thats a good news i think as it may speed up the process to aquire the desired number of warheads.

After its accheived we should slow down that program and cap it while we should transfer most of the assets towards Power genearation .

Regards:

And would that number be? Hundreds? Thousands?

Lets face it, you already have the deterrence you need.. why not use the new sources for energy generation? which pakistan desperately needs?
 
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Who knows that India is not making more weapons?
News paper sources don't have insides do they?
I am sure that India is countering Pakistan's Nuclear strategy.

Becuase we do not need to. We already have a credible deterrence and what we want now is to boost our conventional arsenal.

Moreover, if india wants to benefit from its civilian nuclear deal.. it will not be indulging in these detremental tasks. India has long expressed its no first use nuclear policy. Its upto pakistan to reciprocate.
 
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Who knows that India is not making more weapons?
News paper sources don't have insides do they?
I am sure that India is countering Pakistan's Nuclear strategy.

Unfortunately who knows don't go well when it comes to international findings...No body can guess exact numbers but there are calculated guess made by experts....Mind it i am not saying that they are always true however if we go by numbers and the capacity to produce weapons(as per reports that are out) then surely onus goes on pakistan for triggering nuclear arms race in South Asia because India has more capacity and yet less weapons....
 
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Unfortunately who knows don't go well when it comes to international findings...No body can guess exact numbers but there are calculated guess made by experts....Mind it i am not saying that they are always true however if we go by numbers and the capacity to produce weapons(as per reports that are out) then surely onus goes on pakistan for triggering nuclear arms race in South Asia because India has more capacity and yet less weapons....

man that jus made my day :rofl:
 
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Becuase we do not need to. We already have a credible deterrence and what we want now is to boost our conventional arsenal.

Moreover, if india wants to benefit from its civilian nuclear deal.. it will not be indulging in these detremental tasks. India has long expressed its no first use nuclear policy. Its upto pakistan to reciprocate.

There is no stopping or international obligation on India's part to produce as much weapon as she wants...our only obligation is to ensure nuclear fuel and technology that we get fo civilian use should not be used for military purpose....So if we end up producing 100 more bombs without breaking the obligation there won't be any issue....The way Pakistan is hell bent on increasing her arsenal i would be surprised if we also have not increase the pace....
 
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And would that number be? Hundreds? Thousands?

Lets face it, you already have the deterrence you need.. why not use the new sources for energy generation? which pakistan desperately needs?

Is it your problem that how Many Warheads we may produce ?

If you think that number is linked to India , you cap your program today we will cap it tomorrow.:D

We will sign the NPT the next day when India will sign it.

Regards:
 
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There is no stopping or international obligation on India's part to produce as much weapon as she wants...our only obligation is to ensure nuclear fuel and technology that we get fo civilian use should not be used for military purpose....So if we end up producing 100 more bombs without breaking the obligation there won't be any issue....The way Pakistan is hell bent on increasing her arsenal i would be surprised if we also have not increase the pace....

I don't think India has anything to gain from it. If we indulge ourselves in this nuclear arms race our image will be as tainted as well (you surely do not want to see a similar article on india).

I believe we have what we need from nuclear deterrence stand point.

And lets be realistic.. a full nuclear war is unreal in this era. Any misadventure to that degree will clearly end up in another ww and thus would be immediately intervened by world powers.
 
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Is it your problem that how Many Warheads we may produce ?

If you think that number is linked to India , you cap your program today we will cap it tomorrow.:D

We will sign the NPT the next day when India will sign it.

Regards:

Oh no sir.. who am I to judge. Please produce as many warheads you like. Infact.. you should top the list.

Now that would be a media headline to be proud of.. won't it?
 
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