Pakistan’s number of coronavirus cases could be much higher than given statistics

[SIPRA]

You're absolutely right. As you said, sane people will accept this. Meanwhile in Hindustan, all we hear is "no community transmission", "all cases are due to travellers", "no need to test anyone....but we're sure our positive rate is low because of some magic".

Khush rehnay dau, bechaaron ko.

 

[jericho]

he says that over here people seem to less immune to the new virus as they are living in much safer and cleaner environment while in many other countries living conditions are worse and people have more immunity.

"Duterte played down the threat of contagion, saying Filipinos had natural antibodies that would shield them from infection. Now he is buckling down and on Monday asked Congress for emergency powers to deal with the pandemic."
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...lockdown-philippines-duterte-poverty-12571146

 

[Reddington]

If not controlled, then a 1% mortality rate would translate into 75000000 deaths world wide.

Like I said, just under 1%.

 

[Safriz]

no its different then ebola. it is more contagious but its mortality rate as compare to ebola is less.

Yes. It's more contagious and will spread , until people will develop natural resistance.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

but there is no doubt that the death rate in europe is worse then many other countries like many middle eastern countries , africa and subcontinent . i had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a pulomonologist in UK. he says that over here people seem to less immune to the new virus as they are living in much safer and cleaner environment while in many other countries living conditions are worse and people have more immunity. almost every pakistani gets flu at least 2-3 times per year since childhood. many elderly do die of pneumonia complications but no one carries out tests to find out viruses. all we say it is a community acquired pneumonia or atypical pneumonia which led to the death.many patients with corona virus die of secondary bacterial infection.


you are right but the virus is serioulsy deadly in europe. i think we should look at the death rates in a country due to the virus rather then the total no of cases to get the true picture of the enemy.

Some interesting ideas...different population age distributions? Different severity of comorbidities? "Hygiene" theory? Nobody is sure. Let's wait and see what actually happens in our countries.

 

[Balbir]

Unfortunately its same for other countries like India and Bangladesh

Give it a rest. India still denies community transmission. It's all a p.r. campaign for India.

Regarding the OP, I think it's safe to assume actual cases are higher than those recorded in Pakistan.

Pakistan conducted 2000 tests, got 1600 positives.

US conducted 600000 tests , got 100000 positives

India conducted 35000 tests, got 1000 positives.

See the test to positives ratio of each of these three countries and make ur own conclusion.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Pakistan conducted 2000 tests, got 1600 positives.

US conducted 600000 tests , got 100000 positives

India conducted 35000 tests, got 1000 positives.

See the test to positives ratio of each of these three countries and make ur own conclusion.

Pakistan has conducted more them 20000 tests.

 

[Balbir]

Pakistan has conducted more them 25000 tests.

Well, the starting post says only 2000 so far.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Well, the starting post says only 2000 so far.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1243963207489851393

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Pakistan conducted 2000 tests, got 1600 positives.

US conducted 600000 tests , got 100000 positives

India conducted 35000 tests, got 1000 positives.

See the test to positives ratio of each of these three countries and make ur own conclusion.

Ever heard of false positives and false negatives? Btw, the issue is not tests per positive case - that can vary wildly depending on who is tested, which in turn depends on availability of kits. The issue is tests done per capita of population in developed and developing nations. India and Pakistan are indeed comparable in this regard. Or do you still think India has some advanced public health sector on the basis of what we have seen hitherto?

Pakistan conducted 2000 tests, got 1600 positives.

sorry I just reread the zeros here...How is this ratio even remotely possible? Unless everyone being tested is already on a ventilator machine?? I think this figure is incorrect...even if false positives and false negatives are factored in.

 

[Longhorn]

Like I said, just under 1%.

Left unchecked it would be a far higher percentage

 

[Balbir]

Ever heard of false positives and false negatives? Btw, the issue is not tests per positive case - that can vary wildly depending on who is tested, which in turn depends on availability of kits. The issue is tests done per capita of population in developed and developing nations. India and Pakistan are indeed comparable in this regard. Or do you still think India has some advanced public health sector on the basis of what we have seen hitherto?

When it comes to resources, India is far ahead compared to Pakistan, though in terms of population of India they are grossly inadequate.

But still i'll give few examples where India stands.

1. India companies has started making own corona virus test kits which costs 1/4 of German test kits India has been using till few weeks back.

2. When it comes drugs, India is a world leader in generic drug. Anti-HIV Lopinavir and Ritonavir combination being used as treatment for Covid-19 patients is made by an India pharma major Cipla and supplied around the world since 2003.

3. When comes to ventilators which would needed in huge number, there too Indian companies like Skanray and AgVa Healthcare, who making Ventilator and exporting them, have assured to pitch in this current crisis.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

When it comes to resources, India is far ahead compared to Pakistan, though in terms of population of India they are grossly inadequate.

But still i'll give few examples where India stands.

1. India companies has started making own corona virus test kits which costs 1/4 of German test kits India has been using till few weeks back.

2. When it comes drugs, India is a world leader in generic drug. Anti-HIV Lopinavir and Ritonavir combination being used as treatment for Covid-19 patients is made by an India pharma major Cipla and supplied around the world since 2003.

3. When comes to ventilators which would needed in huge number, there too Indian companies like Skanray and AgVa Healthcare, who making Ventilator and exporting them, have assured to pitch in this current crisis.

So why the low testing rate per capita?

 

[Balbir]

So why the low testing rate per capita?

India has decided against indiscriminate testing.
Cost was also a factor but with local cheap alternatives coming up, they ramping up testing rates and even going in for antibody tests which are fast and cheap.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

India has decided against indiscriminate testing.
Cost was also a factor but with local cheap alternatives coming up, they ramping up testing rates and even going in for antibody tests which are fast and cheap.

Bit late now wouldn't you think? If even a thousand odd positives were missed a week ago, because of this lackadaisical approach (at odds with WHO advice and global examples set by real developed health systems), denial of silent carriers, denial of community transmission, and general apathy of the Modi regime, the impact would be unassessable by now given that each case transmits to three others on average.

Moreover, what you're calling "indiscriminate" in order to absolve Modi and the Indian public health system in general is nothing of the sort. The Koreans didn't indiscriminately test, rather they had a low index of suspicion and meticulously traced contact niduses and networks. In short, they enhanced lessons from the Chinese experience. India has a great pharma sector and sure, level 3 Bioscience labs. Don't really see the point of it all if you're just plodding along like any other third world nation in terms of outcomes.

Even Britain is coming in for harsh criticism of a slow and error-strewn response from The Lancet in particular and former ministers here. Yet Britain has tested a shed load more per capita than India. But hey, "indiscriminate testing" and all that.