PAKISTAN’S MIRAGES: SPECIALISTS ENDURING OUT OF NECESSITY

[HRK]

You kids can try and prove me wrong

Mastan shaib you know I respect you not because you are something special or senior ... but because of the sole reason that I respect myself more .... and ONLY A RESPECTED PERSON CAN GIVE RESPECT TO OTHERS ..... I never replied you in any disrespectful manner or with such tone ... so plz restrict yourself here

Secondly its never too late to accept a mistake and correct yourself and move on .... I just pointed out a factual mistake in very first part of your post without adding anything from my side with respect IF you don't like it don't reply ... first you replied me with this post which I ignored at that time .....

and you are harping about the 10%---!!!!!!!

now this

You kids can try and prove me wrong

You kids can try and prove me wrong---none of the superstars have been able to do that so far for the last 13 years now---

and plz don't think yourself as someone so important that everyone is trying to take you down to prove his worth ... what I and some others did in past was to point the factual inaccuracies in your posts and to balance the arguments posted by you on wrong assumptions ...

Hi,

Why won't you comment---why pick and chose---?

because I don't want to point other inaccuracies those who are interested in your post can (I would say MUST) do research themselves

 

[Metanoia]

The above video was from a F-15 flight which was escorting the F-16s which delivered the strike.

Sir,
I have been telling you guys to use your intelligence---but you kids don't---.
The israeli F16 that destroyed the Osirak Reactor had no missiles for self protection---.
It had no bullets for the canon---it had every accessory taken out that was not meant for flight---. It did not even have an ESCORT either---.

You're also completely neglecting the technological parity of the Israelis vis-a-vis the Iraqis. The same scenario can not be applied to PAF vis-a-vis India because the Indians hold a technological AND numerical superiority over PAF.

 

[MastanKhan]

The above video was from a F-15 flight which was escorting the F-16s which delivered the strike.

Hi,

I understand and know that part---. Bu what I was saying---different videos have different information---.

Decades ago the information I read was that at the final stages of the approach and strike---the single F16 was all alone.

If you are worried about the capabilities of the enemy---then admit it and make peace---.

You only want to make/get weapons of war when you think you can defeat them---.

 

[CHI RULES]

Hi,

Stop wasting my time---.

You don't even have the ability to understand what I wrote---.

What I stated was that one web site says one thing---and the other source says the other thing---one website says F16's and no mention of the F15's---the other website say F15's as well---.




Hi,

Why won't you comment---why pick and chose---?

Sir crux of discussion is that even with latest jets/techs Arabs are dumbest in military comparisons meanwhile Israel was and is superior in tech/ with much better tactics.



Hi,

60% of Paf aircrafts are rust buckets---put together from dead aircraft---.

 

[Raider 21]

The above video was from a F-15 flight which was escorting the F-16s which delivered the strike.




You're also completely neglecting the technological parity of the Israelis vis-a-vis the Iraqis. The same scenario can not be applied to PAF vis-a-vis India because the Indians hold a technological AND numerical superiority over PAF.

The video has a wrong description. F-15 has a very different HUD setup and it does not have an air to ground option. In the HUD it can be clearly seen that the air to ground switch has been selected with set to ARM.

 

[Readerdefence]

I've yet to receive a good answer for why haven't we opted for the J10Cs except for being the that the funds are being used to JF17 production. Frankly I'm still not convinced...we can still get the J10Cs in limited numbers.

Hi my friend I have limited knowledge but one thing I can say is what do you think how many
J10c are their for PLAAF coz if we order even now we will get them like after 2020 as china want
To update its fleet of phase out j7 & j8 asap beside this j10a will be out of the scenario let’s say
2025-2028 as its first maiden flight was on 23rd March 1998 as per the structural life cycle and they can not even upgrade them to j10b or c level
That’s just my thought
Thank you

 

[GumNaam]

Hi my friend I have limited knowledge but one thing I can say is what do you think how many
J10c are their for PLAAF coz if we order even now we will get them like after 2020 as china want
To update its fleet of phase out j7 & j8 asap beside this j10a will be out of the scenario let’s say
2025-2028 as its first maiden flight was on 23rd March 1998 as per the structural life cycle and they can not even upgrade them to j10b or c level
That’s just my thought
Thank you

Well at least get the J10Bs man...that is an awesome plane.

 

[Readerdefence]

Well at least get the J10Bs man...that is an awesome plane.

Ok my friend but they are not AESA based but offcourse more payload so my vote is with you
But for j10c or same specs in j10b
Thank you

 

[Metanoia]

If you are worried about the capabilities of the enemy---then admit it and make peace---.

"Peace" might lead to reduction in value, importance and budget for the uniformed elites. Unacceptable. Also to be fair, the simple fact of the matter is that in view of our economy, we can not compete with India. Empty coffers never complements the creativity, pro-activity and/or courage.

You only want to make/get weapons of war when you think you can defeat them---.

I reckon, and I might be wrong, that Pakistan is more focused on the use of ballistic missiles for the purpose of strike. Additionally, Pakistan is also trying to mature SLCM and LACM technology, hence we don't find the appetite in PAF for a dedicated strike/bomber platform.

Last but not the least, you know how "things" work in Pakistan, including the various branches of our Armed Forces. It's a never ending story.

 

[khanasifm]

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[tarrar]

Mirages will have to be replaced by a better aircraft, I still say that JF17 is not a solution for everything.

 

[Armchair]

Mirages will have to be replaced by a better aircraft, I still say that JF17 is not a solution for everything.

Could you describe in greater detail what you mean?

 

[Signalian]

Could you describe in greater detail what you mean?

Ra'ad ALCM cannot be fitted on belly of JF-17, too low.

Look at Mirage-III height.

 

[Imran Khan]

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mirages paana mang rahy hin ke kis qaum se wasta par gya jaan hi nhi choot rahi

 

[Mentee]

Ra'ad ALCM cannot be fitted on belly of JF-17, too low.

Look at Mirage-III height.

Wasted 2 decades and a lots of $$$ in R&D for a point defence fighter jet like this - - - - - - it cloud barely be seen in action without 3 drop tanks. Of what use ?

mirages paana mang rahy hin ke kis qaum se wasta par gya jaan hi nhi choot rahi

We not gonna get rid of em this easy. when these machines get officially retired in ki chambal ki dvaii b bnay gy