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Pakistan's Latest Ruling Makes Us Want To Bang Our Heads On The Table And Weep

Judges do not make the laws, they only implement them. The legislators makes the laws, and amend them as the people demand and need.
Judges are the ones who should do their homework and work to appeal to a change....They learned law to protect people not to kill more and abuse it as is done in Pakistan....

Our MNA, MPA and legislators themselves know not 99% of the laws what the hell are they going to change or wake up to demand a change?

Mind you these legislator makes the law and forgets about it...until and unless his own is stuck in it, they dont care about it! While judges hear cases everyday so they should be more aware of what to do

Heck even people can push for a change IF the system allows it: How citizens can change state law | Reno Gazette-Journal | rgj.com
 
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This idiot Saqib Nisar was also the judge who gave a clean chit to all those accused in in the Mukhtara Mai rape case

To whom will they turn? - Newspaper - DAWN.COM


"His lordship, Justice Saqib Nisar, reaches this conclusion and reasons by applying “common sense, ordinary prudence and logic”, as he finds too many inconsistencies and improvements in the evidence of the prosecution witnesses whose evidence, at times, is “unbelievable”, “ridiculous”, “convoluted”, “rhetorical” and “against human nature”. Although his lordship, Justice Saqib Nisar, doesn’t expressly say so, his implied conclusion is irresistible — Mukhtar Mai and her prosecution witnesses lied for selfish reasons.

Isn’t the sole testimony of the rape victim sufficient for conviction if it inspires confidence but without requiring extensive corroboration, as laid down in numerous Pakistani and Indian superior courts judgments? No, says Justice Saqib Nisar, especially when we have an “embittered” and “betrayed” Mukhtar Mai weaving her fictitious gang-rape jirga oppression story. In other words, the central finding/message of the majority judgment is to doubt the rape victim and her sobbing story about being a poor and powerless person in a feudal, violent and male chauvinistic society and instead to demand “independent/objective” evidence."
 
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The judges are only implementing the law.

In India we have a system whereby judges can strike down any law if it violates the basic structure of our constitution. It has been used on multiple occasions. Is there a similar arrangement in Pakistan. Can Judges only implement law..?
 
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Judges do not make the laws, they only implement them. The legislators makes the laws, and amend them as the people demand and need.
Lol. Let them get their pitchforks ready against the SC.

Why try and stop them with your boring facts.
 
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It is Islamic ruling and you people can't make fun of that i will explain it to you suppose woman keeps children with herself and marries again from step father they can't inherit anything but if they stays with father they will inherit all of his possessions.
1) bring forward where you got this from
2) anything given by any parent to their child as a gift doesnt fit in this bill...If the man wants to pass on something to his child he can even with a step father in middle....
3) The man still has to pay for the children to be brought up if they are with mom...In Pakistan this is rarely the case...MOST men would marry again and forget about the children from 1st wife

4) The article is asking the juridical system to wake up ...I am more pissed about that than the law!
 
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In India we have a system whereby judges can strike down any law if it violates the basic structure of our constitution. It has been used on multiple occasions. Is there a similar arrangement in Pakistan. Can Judges only implement law..?

The Family Act is based in Islamic Law, and has the people's and legislators' support.
 
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Lol. Let them get their pitchforks ready against the SC.

Why try and stop them with your boring facts.
In MANY countries judges do more than hearing trials.....So yes it is a shocker that Pakistan judges are asleep and dont know their own job!
 
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Lol. Let them get their pitchforks ready against the SC.

Why try and stop them with your boring facts.

Facts may be boring, but they remain what they are, and hence somebody has to keep presenting them.
 
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Pakistan's Latest Ruling Makes Us Want To Bang Our Heads On The Table And Weep

No one but Pakistani women themselves are to be blamed for this misery.
I don't think they even care. Arrest Altaf or Asif on the other hand, you'll see
what Pakistani women are capable of. I'm least bothered by the ruling. They deserve it.
 
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Judges do not make the laws, they only implement them. The legislators makes the laws, and amend them as the people demand and need.

And for as long as the country's judicial system continues to not only enable this, but encourage this, then change is going to be a long and drawn-out process.
I dont know how ignorant the author is regarding laws and blaming the judicial system than the legislators :whistle:
 
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Corinne Redfern 11:25 | 04 Aug 2015

In today's depressing news, two judges have ruled that women are second class citizens, even when it comes to raising children...


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Two Supreme Court judges in Pakistan have reportedly ruled that when a couple divorces, the woman only gets to continue raising their children throughout infancy as their ‘supervisor’ - before passing them over to their husband when they’re old enough, because he is their legal ‘guardian’.

Judges Mian Saqib Nisar and Ejaz Ahmad Chaudhry also ruled that Pakistani women cannot keep their children away from their fathers following a divorce, whatever the circumstances.

Of course, it makes sense: these are men who have spent nine months of carrying their offspring inside their bodies… Oh wait.

Depressingly, it’s not the first time courts in Pakistan have ruled against women’s rights. It's not even nearly the first time. In fact, we can't even count the number of occasions when the country's legal system has made it OK for men to treat their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters like second class citizens.

After all, this is a country where up to 90 per cent of husbands are estimated to assault their wives, where only 39 per cent of women can read (limiting their options for financial independence) and wher 24 per cent of girls are married off before they reach the age of 18 (in many cases when they’re only eight or nine years old).

And for as long as the country's judicial system continues to not only enable this, but encourage this, then change is going to be a long and drawn-out process.

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‘Gender violence in Pakistan takes a variety of forms, some of which are common across cultures such as marital violence, including verbal abuse, hitting, kicking, slapping, rape and murder, and economic and emotional abuse,’ says Filomena Critelli, a researcher at the University of Buffalo.

‘Other forms of violence are rooted in traditional practices that continue under the guise of social conformism, customs and misinterpretations of religion, that also include exchange marriage, death by burning (stove deaths, which are presented as accidents), acid attacks and nose cutting (a form of humiliation and degradation). Women are also raped and abused while in police custody, which further deters many women from reporting crimes against them.’

Thankfully, things are improving. This girl is campaigning for parents to keep their daughters in school, education levels are on the rise, and increasing numbers of female activists are fighting to raise awareness of women’s rights around the country.

Now if only the courts would catch up with them.


Read more at Pakistan Women's Rights | Marie Claire

Our courts really needs a good kick to wake up! I say sack all the judges, rape the bloody male or sell them as prostitutes so they realize what shit they are supposed to help in the country ...Stupid worthless creatures! As for the female just sack them too if they cant voice for their own...

I am sorry brother but this article sounds like the work of some spin doctor liberal.

This is what the verdict is
"Mother can keep infant children but once grown father have more rights to them"

then spin doctors comes in and spins the story as
"Courts rules that mother are not human enough to keep children, they are second class citizen who have no right to keep the child but only to raise a child from infancy since they are the sub human creature and their reason for existance is to satisfy men's sexual need and bare his childern, once the child is born woman can be discarded as a used diaper"

I thought you were smarter than that to even post that garbage.
 
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How can any nation of the 21st century do this to its citizens?

Pathetic and sad
 
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I am sorry brother but this article sounds like the work of some spin doctor liberal.
I figured that from most of what is written hence made red only the concerned part
 
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