Pakistan’s hybrid regime buying time before its downfall

[W.11]

I could go on at further length describing other very necessary provisions that the 18th amendment is there to uphold, such as transparency and due-process in judicial appointments, and devolution of powers. On the subject of the latter, how many times have we seen members (rightfully) complain about underdevelopment of parts of Punjab in favour of others, or the neglect of Karachi, or other issues related to too much centralization of powers?

I'd suggest members actually read the the articles and amendments I've mentioned here before they rely on other sources to arrive at an anti-18th amendment conclusion.

Pakistan has a sham democracy, this s not a democracy but only a system where feudal lords/zamindars get into power by using their peasants and peasants choose the provincial governments, these land lords from rural areas get to rule the urban centers which has educated people and dont elect the same land lords as they get to be chosen in rural areas.

the true devolution can nt happen and has not been able to provide results since 12 years it has been implemented, 18th amendment has not been able to deliver to the people.

the provincial govt despite being given authority and powers dont reciprocate the same with the local govenrment which get appointments and their local representatives/ commissioners can be removed by the authority of the provincial CM or local bodies minister, same is the case of karach where a mayor can be removed by the provincial govt.

Musharraf system although dictatorial was probably much more democratic as it let poor people choose their representatives, or atleast at the local level and funds were distributed at the local level without provincial interference.

regards

 

[Genghis khan1]

Something is off with the author. Wasted my time.

 

[hussain0216]

Have you read the 18th amendment and the relevant articles?

I have

They are utterly ridiculous for a nation like Pakistan where political corruption, ineptitude, regionalism, ethnocentrism is rampant

It allows regional oligarchy, so with money in their pockets a regional party like PPP can continue with a system of control because they can and do allocate resources not as a representative of the state but as a party of Sindh it thus becomes in their interest to increase regionalism and attack and deride the centre as evil conspirators

Repeat in all other provinces

We thus as a state lose a cohesive national government to regional parties all looking to horde power in their own states and seeking to display the centre as the "other" upon whom every failure is blamed

Our people are simply to uneducated to understand and our country suffers





We need a strong central state to whom all hold allegiance not differing centers of power across the country which push back EVERY time the state tries to implement something

 

[Turingsage]

Writer is Indian or member of some opposition party.

Writer is a highly regarded staunchly loyal Patriotic Pakistani journalist. He writes for
Asia Times, The Express Tribune, The Nation (Pakistan), The Quint, Daily Times, Dunya News, Naya Daur


The problem with him is he is willing to call spade a spade

He also writes for https://nayadaur.tv

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The article is on point IMO.

It's a poorly written and argued opinion piece that draws on unsubstantiated claims galore.

The author starts from a baseline where his views (clearly stated in the article) are:

1. The PTI government came to power through rigged elections
2. The Army is calling the shots in terms of appointments to influential positions in the government
3. The Army is against democracy and the 18th amendment and wants to return in a military coup (nonsensical claim since a military coup would care naught for any amendment or the constitution).

Each one of the above claims (just the main ones for now) requires detailed arguments and substantiation, but instead you have hacks like Imad Zafar writing opinion pieces based on them and subsequently drawing flawed conclusions.

No wonder the state of journalism and media in Pakistan is in the absolute toilet currently.

 

[SIPRA]

Author charsi lagta hae.

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

I have

They are utterly ridiculous for a nation like Pakistan where political corruption, ineptitude, regionalism, ethnocentrism is rampant

It allows regional oligarchy, so with money in their pockets a regional party like PPP can continue with a system of control because they can and do allocate resources not as a representative of the state but as a party of Sindh it thus becomes in their interest to increase regionalism and attack and deride the centre as evil conspirators

Repeat in all other provinces

We thus as a state lose a cohesive national government to regional parties all looking to horde power in their own states and seeking to display the centre as the "other" upon whom every failure is blamed

Our people are simply to uneducated to understand and our country suffers





We need a strong central state to whom all hold allegiance not differing centers of power across the country which push back EVERY time the state tries to implement something

This is 100% accurate hence why it needs to be demolished

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Writer is a highly regarded staunchly loyal Patriotic Pakistani journalist. He writes for
Asia Times, The Express Tribune, The Nation (Pakistan), The Quint, Daily Times, Dunya News, Naya Daur

Naya Daur is an extremely anti-PTI, anti-military rag that panders to the extreme left in Pakistan.

The authors's biases, as I pointed out in my previous post, make his op-ed piece little more than a rant.

 

[Bil]

Writer is a highly regarded staunchly loyal Patriotic Pakistani journalist. He writes for
Asia Times, The Express Tribune, The Nation (Pakistan), The Quint, Daily Times, Dunya News, Naya Daur


The problem with him is he is willing to call spade a spade

He also writes for https://nayadaur.tv

"Writer is loyal Patriotic Pakistani journalist" is nothing but utter nonsense.

2 minutes of reseach can expose such "lifafa" journalist. One only needs to go through the following list of this articles & take a peek at his twitter to know how biased this person is and certainly working on an agenda.

https://asiatimes.com/author/imad-zafar/

Such lifafa journalist have knack to target Pakistan establishment, IK and his Govt and on contrary, praise looters of Pakistan like PPP and PML-N gang. Dont believe me, just browse through the link I provided along this twitter and anybody can see what I am talking about.

For instance the following article starts with,

"As Imran Khan's PTI plays a blame game, Sindh Chief Minister Murad Ali Shah is fighting Covid-19 effectively"

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/pakistans-man-of-crisis-overshadows-man-of-rhetoric/

Anybody with 2 active brain-cells knows that this is complete hogwash, because Federal, Punjab, KPK and Govt's have done much more than inept and corrupt Govt of Sindh. Heck even CJ has named & ashamed Sindh Govt and raised some serious questions on their competency levels & actions taken by them to combat COVID-19.

That said, next time, do some research before spouting anything.

 

[Turingsage]

You all prefer to live in your fake ill-serving fantasies.

There is no point in arguing or debating this. Remember fantasies have a habit of shattering at unexpected times and in unexpectable ways

 

[S.Y.A]

I have to ask, why you think ending 18th amendment is a good thing? It was there primarily to overturn the anti-democratic and dictatorial amendments made by Musharraf and Zia. Ideas with damaging legacies such as the President having the power to remove PMs and dissolve parliament.

yeah, lifting the limit on PM-ship is democratic. going against party line is not ok anymore, that too, is highly democratic. no check and balance by the center, no matter what the provinces do, no accountability is highly democratic.

On the subject of the latter, how many times have we seen members (rightfully) complain about underdevelopment of parts of Punjab in favour of others, or the neglect of Karachi, or other issues related to too much centralization of powers?

those are issues at provincial level, which cannot be addressed because of........ you guessed it: 18th amendment.

 

[I S I]

Nothing is constant. Every kingdom falls one day or another. Bhutto fallen, Shareefs fallen. Same will happen with Imran Khan. It's a matter of time.

 

[Bil]

You all prefer to live in your fake ill-serving fantasies.

There is no point in arguing or debating this. Remember fantasies have a habit of shattering at unexpected times and in unexpectable ways

Nobody, literally nobody criticise's themselves more than Pakistani's do including IK, his Govt and even at establishment at time. However, no one is going to believe a certified professional liar given the history of this written articles. Because most of us are sane enough to read between the lines and understand hidden agenda of such crooked writers.

 

[ziaulislam]

Why? Are both above criticism? If something is worthy of criticism, what’s the problem?

If you disagree with the argument, address the argument itself instead of trying to invalidate it by other means.


Have you read the 18th amendment and the relevant articles?


I was warning since at least 2016 that the combination of a big trade deficit and dollar pegged at 105, with SBP burning reserves to maintain that level, that when this ends it’ll get ugly.

Pre-election it was obvious to folks like us that we were in the early stages of an economic crisis, with an IMF loan, PKR devaluation, increased taxes and inflation imminently arriving. What surprised me most is how IK and PTI during election campaigning barely seemed to notice it, or if they did they didn’t make it evident. I don’t blame them for the situation we are in but they could have handled it better.

really how would they have handled it better ...
i think they handled really good...
yes we are slow on other things including agricultural, educational and judiciary reforms.all of which needs opposition help and senate majority..both will not happen before 2021

but to believe that miraculously we will double our exports in 5 years when we have cutthroat competition .. won't happen..definitively not when world is going into recession

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You all prefer to live in your fake ill-serving fantasies.

There is no point in arguing or debating this. Remember fantasies have a habit of shattering at unexpected times and in unexpectable ways

Here's your 'speaking truth to power' boy with his various headlines.

See if you can spot a 'trend'. Unbiased and objective my arse!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1255120001360674817