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Pakistan's eternal quest for 'strategic balance' with India

Pakistan in South ASIA IS A SIMILAR SITUATION to North KOREA in the korean peninsula.

ie Nuclear armed, no money , no real friends that matter other than china, international isolation.

India like SOUTH KOREA has the money the FDI and is loved by the WEST/ international community.

SO REALLY there is no balance JUST IMBLANCE
 
Pakistan in South ASIA IS A SIMILAR SITUATION to North KOREA in the korean peninsula.

ie Nuclear armed, no money , no real friends that matter other than china, international isolation.

India like SOUTH KOREA has the money the FDI and is loved by the WEST/ international community.

SO REALLY there is no balance JUST IMBLANCE

:rofl::lol::lol:

Wet dreams ....

South Korean per capita GDP = $23,749

indian per capita GDP = 'barely' $1500 etc ...

This is just ONE static.....

Pakistan has no real friends other than China?

Pakistan-Saudi relations stronger than indo-russian relations..

Pakistan-Turkish relations stronger than indian-US relations..

Pakistan is embedded in the Muslim world...We have friendly relations with almost ALL the Muslim world ...(leaving few countries..) ...

What does india have? :lol:

Russians loot the crap outa you...friendship , eh? They raise prices of their weapons ONLY for you...what a joke..

Pakistan has more real friends than india can ever imagine...

There is no 'imbalance' such as South vs North Korea...

We maintain a strategic balance with 10x bigger country....

Th standards of living are almost the same in both countries....

Now you can keep living in your fantasy though..lol
 
:rofl::lol::lol:

Wet dreams ....

South Korean per capita GDP = $23,749

indian per capita GDP = 'barely' $1500 etc ...

This is just ONE static.....

Pakistan has no real friends other than China?

Pakistan-Saudi relations stronger than indo-russian relations..

Pakistan-Turkish relations stronger than indian-US relations..

Pakistan is embedded in the Muslim world...We have friendly relations with almost ALL the Muslim world ...(leaving few countries..) ...

What does india have? :lol:

Russians loot the crap outa you...friendship , eh? They raise prices of their weapons ONLY for you...what a joke..

Pakistan has more real friends than india can ever imagine...

There is no 'imbalance' such as South vs North Korea...

We maintain a strategic balance with 10x bigger country....

Th standards of living are almost the same in both countries....

Now you can keep living in your fantasy though..lol
Hey you, didn't waited for me to put my gear,s on ?
You single handedly, assinated this dam snipper?
You did well, to earn my salute durring my patrolling mission, soldier bt you deserve it any way?
 
Sir,
Irrespective of Pakistan, if you do not want to change the Nation State system with its UN, please oblige the UN by accepting the 13 or so UN resolutions on Kashmir as a starter. Hold a plebiscite in Kashmir and let them live in freedom.

Go back to the border that actually existed before you occupied undefended portion of Siachen.

Stay as a nation state by not impinging on the Nation Status of all other nations on your periphery. You have border disputes with all the nations around you - not only Pakistan.

Can't say about the Chinese my naughty ideas may begin with dirty dancing with some bollywood actresses. What did you have in mind.

Human wickedness and greed is what you are afraid of - please be afraid of yourself.

well well well if you are so aware of the U N resolutions then do you know when and how will the ''plebiscite'' be held. the U N resolutions clearly state that first the pakistan army as well as the administration will first have to vacate the so called *** the whole the of kashmir is under the indian administration will the plebiscite be held.
so you now know how to implement the UN resolutions.
 
If Pakistans think strategic balance is

$1.8 trillon GDP (IND) v $180 billion GDP (PAK)

$300 BILLION FOREX V $15 BILLION FOREX (PAK)

$40 BILLION DEFENSE BUDGET V $7 BILLION (PAK)

EQUALS STRATEGIC BALANCE then i say keep up the good work pakistan your doing a grand job these last 65 years


YOU GUYS CALL THAT BALANCE ????????/
 
Pakistan is population of 180 millions while India is population of 1400 millions. We are not a match in area, in GDP, in natural, human and financial resources. Agreed. With this in view, Pakistan never tried to match straw with straw and finger with finger but always needded enough strength to defend these 180 millions against 1400 millions.

If you agree, Pakistan has right to gain enough strength and enough potential where 1400 remain within their territory and minds.. and we are there already. Pakistanis have paid a higher cost as compared to Indians but either you strive and stand or you don't and we have chosen to stand. In the last 3 attempts of aggression, we have kept India within its territory. Was that not worth it?
Leave It Guys These Indian baboons Will not Get It Cause They Are Indians Thats not Their Fault:rofl:
 
If Pakistans think strategic balance is

$1.8 trillon GDP (IND) v $180 billion GDP (PAK)

$300 BILLION FOREX V $15 BILLION FOREX (PAK)

$40 BILLION DEFENSE BUDGET V $7 BILLION (PAK)

EQUALS STRATEGIC BALANCE then i say keep up the good work pakistan your doing a grand job these last 65 years


YOU GUYS CALL THAT BALANCE ????????/

OMG dude! Your a senior member but still talking outa your behind? :hitwall:

Just one static again..

Pakistan Population = 180 milliom
Indian population = 1250 Million !!!!!

Did you see the difference?

Pakistan cut-off 1200 Indians from resource rich Central Asia ... Had India the access to the immense resources of Central Asia , you'd been a bigger economy than China...your huge population NEED resources ...but Pakistan occupied Gilgit-Baltistan region and cut India from Central Asia ... We DEPRIVED you of your success.... 180 million Pakistanis HELD 1200 million Indians WITHIN their borders! THIS is called "establishing a strategic balance" with larger nation....

Now comparison of economies is retarded because 1200 million people will OBVIOUSLY have larger economy than 180 million people... But the standards of living are SAME in both countries...Actually , Pakistanis live a slightly "better" life than average Indians...but the difference is not that big so I'll leave it ....

You can NEVER dare to attack Pakistan...We show you "Middle-Finger" everytime... you have NO influence on us ....even though you are 10X bigger....THIS is called forming a successful strategic balance :wave:

Plus : Pakistani economy has passed $ 200 bn figure long ago... so might wanna update yourself?
 
OMG dude! Your a senior member but still talking outa your behind? :hitwall:

Just one static again..

Pakistan Population = 180 milliom
Indian population = 1250 Million !!!!!

Did you see the difference?

Pakistan cut-off 1200 Indians from resource rich Central Asia ... Had India the access to the immense resources of Central Asia , you'd been a bigger economy than China...your huge population NEED resources ...but Pakistan occupied Gilgit-Baltistan region and cut India from Central Asia ... We DEPRIVED you of your success.... 180 million Pakistanis HELD 1200 million Indians WITHIN their borders! THIS is called "establishing a strategic balance" with larger nation....

Now comparison of economies is retarded because 1200 million people will OBVIOUSLY have larger economy than 180 million people... But the standards of living are SAME in both countries...Actually , Pakistanis live a slightly "better" life than average Indians...but the difference is not that big so I'll leave it ....

You can NEVER dare to attack Pakistan...We show you "Middle-Finger" everytime... you have NO influence on us ....even though you are 10X bigger....THIS is called forming a successful strategic balance :wave:

Plus : Pakistani economy has passed $ 200 bn figure long ago... so might wanna update yourself?


Good for you guys, But this comes at what cost?
 
Good for you guys, But this comes at what cost?

What ever the cost is , it is still atleast 100x LESS of what India paid due to this Indo-Pak rivarly. As I already told you , just imagine for a second ... 1250 million people having access to immense resources of Central Asia ... India would've been an atleast $ 10 trillion economy (GDP nominal)!!! ..... So a way bigger price is paid by you ...

Coming to your question : Pakistan didn't pay much price of the conflict. Actually , we paid (and are paying) the price of our dismantling of Soviet Union ... Haven't you read the famous quote of General Akhter Abdur Rahman (ISI Chief during Soviet War in Afghanistan) ..After Pakistan defeated Soviet Union (With the help of Saudi Arabia and USA) , he said to his son "Beta jeet to hum gayen hain , lakin chorain gay wo b nahi humain" ... And we all know what happened after that..Even today , conflict in Afghanistan is costing us billions and all the havoc....

Conflict with India didn't even cost us much , but only you. Had there been no India , we would not be a nuclear missile power today.

India has been strategically "contained" by Pakistan. Our problems now lie with Taliban/US/Afghanistan/Tribal Areas etc ... India is not that big of a problem now ....

Now we are ready to solve all issues with India , only if India and Pakistan deal on EQUAL terms... simple as that...
 
What ever the cost is , it is still atleast 100x LESS of what India paid due to this Indo-Pak rivarly. As I already told you , just imagine for a second ... 1250 million people having access to immense resources of Central Asia ... India would've been an atleast $ 10 trillion economy (GDP nominal)!!! ..... So a way bigger price is paid by you ...

Coming to your question : Pakistan didn't pay much price of the conflict. Actually , we paid (and are paying) the price of our dismantling of Soviet Union ... Haven't you read the famous quote of General Akhter Abdur Rahman (ISI Chief during Soviet War in Afghanistan) ..After Pakistan defeated Soviet Union (With the help of Saudi Arabia and USA) , he said to his son "Beta jeet to hum gayen hain , lakin chorain gay wo b nahi humain" ... And we all know what happened after that..Even today , conflict in Afghanistan is costing us billions and all the havoc....

Conflict with India didn't even cost us much , but only you. Had there been no India , we would not be a nuclear missile power today.

India has been strategically "contained" by Pakistan. Our problems now lie with Taliban/US/Afghanistan/Tribal Areas etc ... India is not that big of a problem now ....

Now we are ready to solve all issues with India , only if India and Pakistan deal on EQUAL terms... simple as that...

Good for you that you contained India, great achievement.

The Price;

You had to throw out Mohd Ali Jinnah's visions for a welfare state model into the trash and adopt Ayubs model

Your military despite of blunders after blunders have hogged the power in the center for decades and from the looks of it will continue to do so.

In containing India, you lost Half of your country

Your democratically elected priministers and dictators alike are either exiled or killed, what happened to you political system

Pakistan in the 50's was a model of growth for Korea, singapore etc, look where they stand

Unlike India, Pakistan has low population density, higher education, what happened to that potential?

Your foreign policy to ensure the demands of military, made you sign every piece of paper US threw at you, look where that has landed you.

Today America is free to do what it likes in your country, what is the price of self respect and sovereignty?

What is the reputation of pakistan in the world community today?


Pakistan didn't pay much price of the conflict? Indeed
 
India doesn't have parity with Pakistan in any sector...
 
India doesn't have parity with Pakistan in any sector...

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OMG dude! Your a senior member but still talking outa your behind? :hitwall:

Just one static again..

Just thinking that Pakistan is even a tad bit better than India is simply the heights of delusion..

Please stop using the word strategic so much, last time one of your leaders wanted something to do with that word he screwed the country badly, having a grandiose image of your country is either ignorance or lack of basic knowledge

When you set out your comparison you obviously missed many facts.. lets see


Pakistan Population = 180 milliom
Indian population = 1250 Million !!!!!


Pakistan's Land Area= 856,692 km sq.
India's Land Area= 2,973,193 km sq.

We are 3.4 times bigger than you not 7 or 10 times as per your delusional facts.

Pakistan cut-off 1200 Indians from resource rich Central Asia ... Had India the access to the immense resources of Central Asia , you'd been a bigger economy than China...your huge population NEED resources ...but Pakistan occupied Gilgit-Baltistan region and cut India from Central Asia ... We DEPRIVED you of your success.... 180 million Pakistanis HELD 1200 million Indians WITHIN their borders! THIS is called "establishing a strategic balance" with larger nation....
What this is the first time I am hearing that India can only access resources through Pakistan, how did we get so much Oil till now? We have a costlier access to the central Asia via sea but we cannot simply grab the resources just because we have access or can we :hitwall:

Maybe it is news to you that we can afford the costlier path, however, your country which has unbridled access to the oh-so-important Central Asia is lagging miles behind, mind explaining me why, are you guys dumb? I feel strongly that at least you are.

We have had immense success by growing more that 7-8% for the last decade, I feel sorry for such a poor attempt at Deprivation. However, it can be expected as the most prestigious institution(Army) has failed you time and again in capturing Indian Kashmir in all the ways possible and are hiding behind the garb of access to Central Asia. Meanwhile, they are good at running private business it seems..

Now comparison of economies is retarded because 1200 million people will OBVIOUSLY have larger economy than 180 million people... But the standards of living are SAME in both countries...Actually , Pakistanis live a slightly "better" life than average Indians...but the difference is not that big so I'll leave it ....


In the first place your statement is very retarded, the population of US is much less than India, consider the facts below

2 India 1,210,193,422 March 1, 2011
3 United States 313,992,000 July 27, 2012

List of countries by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The total population of India far exceeds US' population even if the current data of US is compared with past data of India. Do you now understand how dumb you sound?

You can NEVER dare to attack Pakistan...We show you "Middle-Finger" everytime... you have NO influence on us ....even though you are 10X bigger....THIS is called forming a successful strategic balance :wave:

Plus : Pakistani economy has passed $ 200 bn figure long ago... so might wanna update yourself?
Enough of the bullshit man, keep conducting 26/11 attacks and there will be war.. this even US understands and is scared of because there are fools like you in the upper echelon of your leadership, unless there is a takeover by the extremist elements which will become a direct threat to not just us but to the current superpower United States of America too.. so go figure the consequences of waving you dirty and unsound strategic balance...

Yeah the "Middle-Finger" indeed was shown when the dead soldiers were being returned to Pakistan, that must have made you proud aur tumhari chaati aur das inch baadi ho gayi hogi, kyun hain na?
 
Good for you that you contained India, great achievement.

The Price;

You had to throw out Mohd Ali Jinnah's visions for a welfare state model into the trash and adopt Ayubs model

Your military despite of blunders after blunders have hogged the power in the center for decades and from the looks of it will continue to do so.

In containing India, you lost Half of your country

Your democratically elected priministers and dictators alike are either exiled or killed, what happened to you political system

Pakistan in the 50's was a model of growth for Korea, singapore etc, look where they stand

Unlike India, Pakistan has low population density, higher education, what happened to that potential?

Your foreign policy to ensure the demands of military, made you sign every piece of paper US threw at you, look where that has landed you.

Today America is free to do what it likes in your country, what is the price of self respect and sovereignty?

What is the reputation of pakistan in the world community today?


Pakistan didn't pay much price of the conflict? Indeed

Well please ... Pakistan Military's intervention in political system have NOTHING to do with Indo-Pak conflict... In Turkey , same thing happened throughout history....In middle-east too..etc ... So this has nothing to do with it...

Also , as I already told you , even with all the "price" you are mentioning , India still paid a much bigger price..

Obviously Pakistan paid price due to indo-pak conflict...but when compared with the price we paid for Afghan conflict , it is nothing. America doing drone strikes in Pakistan has NOTHING to do with indo-Pak conflict..please....

Also , Bangladesh wasn't lost due to Indo-Pak conflict...East Pakistan was treated badly by West Pakistan and it was bound to happen..Secondly the geographical distance was just too much..."Breaking" of already broken country was inevitable...
 
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He is right. where is the parity? India is leagues ahead of Pakistan.
 
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