Pakistan's energy deficit

[Awesome]

Does anyone know what is the current energy deficit Pakistan faces?

I've heard its about 4000 megawatt. Thats some serious energy deficit.

The biggest solar power plant being built in Arizona (called Solana) is on 1900 acres of land and produces 280 megawatts of energy.

Thats not enough.

Look at how successful people have been with Hydro Power

ITAIPU - largest power plant on Earth - 12 600 MW of Hydro Power

That is an insane mount of power.

Which direction should Pakistan be heading to relieve its power shortage (no futuristic tech please, just realistic ones).

 

[Awesome]

Seeing the insane amount of power from these hydro-power plants we don't need Nuclear tech.

Of course India would be a thorn in these plans.

Its a desperate time to revisit the Kalabagh dam, all the damn dams.

 

[donrahul]

dude.. Its actually ok for you guys.. we have a 100,000 MW deficit in my country..
The Hindu : Tamil Nadu / Chennai News : Sanction for 15 more power plants shortly, says Minister

 

[Awesome]

Kalabagh Dam

KALABAGH DAM - A PROJECT OF HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR PAKISTAN
INTRODUCTION
Kalabagh Dam Project was designed in 1984, with the assistance of the United Nations Development Program; supervised by the World Bank, for the client Water and Power Development Authority of Pakistan. Following the submission of its Project Planning Report it was put up to the Federal and Provincial Governments for approval of the launching of this gigantic project. In the meantime, the project team were asked to complete the Detailed Designs and Contract Documents for making it ready to enter into the implementation stage This task was completed in another two and half years and the project was poised for start of construction in mid 1987.
It was estimated to cost US$ 3.46 Billion at June 1987 level and was scheduled to be completed in 6 years, with first generating unit to be commissioned in April 1993. But unfortunately, this programme could not be materialized due to opposition from some Provincial Governments, mainly on political grounds. In spite of a widespread realization of the urgency of this project, among vast majority of professional sectors of engineers, economists, agriculturists, industrialists and the intelligentsia, a political consensus could not be achieved for constructing Kalabagh Dam. Repeated efforts were made by various successive governments but the, so called, consensus has proved to be too elusive, for one reason or another.

As a result of this delay of 12 long years (21 years now) in the implementation of this project our dear country has suffered immensely in the agriculture and the energy sectors, directly and in industrial and manpower sectors indirectly. All these negative effects have, no doubt, contributed in a big way to the alarming situation faced by the national economy, which we are witnessing now.

I think we should quit the idea of using this dam for agriculture. Then no one can say Punjab will be the only one benefiting from this project. We need POWER now.

Today's Project Management dictates breaking things down into phases. Get a buy in for phase I and start off. So initially just make power.

 

[Neo]

Current deficit will exceed 4000MW this winter with serious load shedding expected in January and February.

What we need is to tab high yield hydro potential, I posted an article yesterday on this topic.
Kalabagh and Diamer would have generated 4500 and 3500MW respectively, much higher than any othere power project in pakistan.

 

[Neo]

Please check: Our Hydropower Scorecard

 

[Janbaz]

Current deficit will exceed 4000MW this winter with serious load shedding expected in January and February.

What we need is to tab high yield hydro potential, I posted an article yesterday on this topic.
Kalabagh and Diamer would have generated 4500 and 3500MW respectively, much higher than any othere power project in pakistan.

Neo: Wouldn't Kalabagh be a thorn with constant bickering from provinces as well the building of the dam decreasing water flow downstream towards Tarbela and Central Punjab to locations like Chashma and at the end Sukkur. These are the few queries i have and would be awesome if u or some other mamber could provide answers.

 

[Awesome]

Neo: Wouldn't Kalabagh be a thorn with constant bickering from provinces as well the building of the dam decreasing water flow downstream towards Tarbela and Central Punjab to locations like Chashma and at the end Sukkur. These are the few queries i have and would be awesome if u or some other mamber could provide answers.

Well the problem is if Punjab uses the dam for agriculture then the only way that would happen is if Punjab government cheats Sindh and takes away extra water than the inlet of water which is needed by Sindh.

So its all a matter of trust.

Eliminate that trust issue. Build the dam without the aggricultural canals. Only use it for power generation. Initially this dam was built for agricultural reasons which were very Punjab centric and were going to supply the Thal Desert and the Greater Thal Canal that is planned.

Kill the Thal Canal project for now.

Let the dam be built, and see let us start reaping the benefits of electricity without raising the water theft issue for Sindh.

I'm not against the Canal, and the Canal itself won't dry up Sindh if the supply to the Canal is regulated. But there's trust deficit here. Sindh believes Punjab would take away most of the water drying up these people.

But if only the trust issue wasn't there, we would be irrigating the areas of Bhakkar, Khushab, Mianwali, Jhang, Layyah, and Muzaffargarh, it will be awesome for the food shortage in Pak.

Now lets face it, Sindh isn't just complaining for the heck of it. Punjab has been stealing water in some smaller ways. Now imagine of a gated button is given to the Feudal Lords who will be in government and will have their own fields to water. They will definitely be stealing. I have no doubt about it.

Anyway so kill that project. The need in the 70s and 80s was about Aggriculture. That is still there but a more pressing need has risen that is of power. We shouldn't go for a big bang policy. Make phased roll outs. That way if the government of Sindh sees proper controls in place their minds would change.

Now NWFP has to give most of the land and it gets no water out of it. And the side of the dam that will generate power is in Punjab. So Punjab can claim royalties on the power. However a good sign is that Punjab has agreed to sacrifice royalties from the power generation. But NWFP still says they want royalties.

I think we should agree to some nominal royalty for NWFP in cheap electricity. Remember ultimately the more power we produce, electricity would get cheaper than what we're paying for it it today. So pay up NWFP.

 

[Robin234]

key to development lies in Energy ,Roads etc

 

[Geromix]

I would rather suggest thermal power plants,i have heard Pakistan has big reserves of coal,Pakistan can certainly use it.

Plus its cheap and there shorter gestation periods.

 

[Neo]

Power deficit to increase to over 3,000MW in January ​

Sunday, December 14, 2008

ISLAMABAD: The ongoing power deficit of 1,500MW is to swell to over 3,000MW in next month wing to which, the authorities concerned have decided to extend zero power supply to all steel melting units for 8 hours with immediate effect from January 1, 2009, a senior official told The News. “The power deficit of 3,000MW that is to hit country next month has also promoted authorities to increase the load-shedding duration to 6 to 8 hours across the country from existing 4 to 6 hours power outages.

“Yes, we have decided to pull the plug on the power supply to 80 to 100 steel melting units with consultation across the country in the wake of massive power shortage. We will make the zero power supply for one shift working spanning 8 hours duration from January 1, 2009. This decision will help save 250MW of electricity,” Tahir Basharat Cheema spokesman of Pakistan Electric Power Company confirmed to The News saying that PEPCO is left with no option but to take this decision because of the canal closure period that is to start from December 26 and end by January 31.

To a question, Cheema said The PEPCO is also in consultation process with All Pakistan Textile Mills Association (APTMA) with regard to power outages duration for Mills to cope with the power crisis. Through conservation, this time PEPCO will be able to save about 1,000MW from January 1 to ease out electricity situation.

In addition, all the thermal units of 1,000MW which are right now on an annual maintenance would come on stream by December 25 except one unit of Jamshoro power house of 200MW as it will be operational in the month of January.

Cheema said Chashma Nuclear Power Plant of 300MW which is non-operational for the last months because of fuel replenishment as change of fuel rods take five to six months, will also come on stream on January 17. During the period from December 26, 2008 to January 31, 2009 the existing hydro generation of 2,500MW will come down to its lowest ebb in the wake of the complete closure of canals by all federating units for annual de-silting.

“During the period, there will be no water demand from province to cater to irrigational requirements and almost negligible water releases from Terbela and zero releases from Mangla will reduce the hydro generation up to 500MW. Because of the massive reduction in water releases, the hydro generation has tumbled to 2,000MW from 6,500 MW in August-September this year.

Another reason of the current power deficit which why the country is experiencing the load-shedding is nominal supply of gas to power houses which is around 8.5 million cubic feet gas per day. The three rental power houses which only run on gas is producing zero electricity because of non-availability of gas.”

Cheema said Pikhi and Sheikhupura rental power houses of 285MW and GTPS Faisalabad of 210MW have become non-functional as not alternate fuel other than gas can be used in the said rental power houses.

This has deprived the country of 495MW of electricity. This has actually worsened the ongoing power deficit. However, the country would have 81MW of Malakand-3 and 165MW of Attock Power and KESC and PEPCO system in the currant month. Besides this, 350MW of AES Pak Gen which is at annual maintenance would come on stream by December 13, 180MW of Muzafarabad to start generating electricity by December 15, 200MW of Jamshoro power house by December 25 and two units of Guddu power houses of 150MW would also be operational in the current month after annual maintenance.

“This would help PEPCO minimize the impact of canal closures on power deficit to some extent,” he said.