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Pakistan's Blunder Of Not Joining The Yemen War:---

Pakistan unfortunately has a considerable number of people who will support Iran and its endeavor even it is against the state of Pakistan. It was a wise decision not to push our country into civil war by becoming a party in Saudi-Iran war.
You have India at one side against you, then there is Afghanistan and you want Iran to start a proxy war in Pakistan as well when Chinese aren't coming to rescue no matter what happens.
Every decision has its pros and cons but one thing remains to be seen that when was the last time KSA sent their soldiers when we were fighting our war of survival?
 
if pak would have jumped into yemen war and bought jh7 air craft from china we would have been at the top of the world.
dont know how many stupid threads will be opened on this topic which has been discussed million times on pdf.
 
Hi,

Instead of being sarcastic---a little bit of intelligence would help---.

The troops would start from 25 K and up---training base established at Gwadar / Pasni---to feed troops to the gulf region---.

The troops that I mentioned 150 K was the higher of the nubers to spread around at different locations according to the different countries needs and desires---and not in one day---.

The gulf states have enough aircraft to do a massive air lift of troops from different airports of pakistan if need be---.

We are established as a nuclear power---. In order for us to have secured our assets---which the enemy wants to sieze and destroy---we should have used the opportunity to build a 150K military force in the gulf region---.

A 150 K military in the hot zone---500 K military on the home front---that is a massive force multiplier---.

why would a pakistani soldier die in god forsaken place like Yemen for something he does not understand or believe in ?
 
Hi,

The hands of all the great muslim conquerers are red in blood---. Don't you study your own history---.

what is wrong with you kids---jerkoff---play video games---be on the facebook---instgram---video chat---pronography---is that all you kids do---.
I was talking about ourselves(we Pakistanis).
War in world Arena is divided in segments these days. Syrian segment, Persian Gulf segment and ofcourse Afghan segment and Indian segment.
We are already are engaged in two of the above segments. Yemeni segment is just a black hole that will engulf whole Saudi economy. I mean there only one end to it : a dead Saudia.
Where as the war in which we are engaged now, has many possible outcomes, and one of them is : a defeated blood drenched giant.
As far as acting on events way beyond our territory is concerned, I think I read somewhere that Pakistani commandos were in Turkey during 2016 military coup.
Pakistan is safe, because some Pakistani decision makers are still thinking sanely.
 
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Why make more enemies when you already have plenty at home.
Why not surrender to India and live in peace

We are not a mercenary army for rich Arabs.

Have some dignity for once.
Arabs say jump and you say "how high?"

Tell you what, we can join their "coalition" if and when they kick out all the Indians in their country, downgrade diplomatic ties with India and put their full support behind Pakistani Kashmir.

Until then, they can loose their own wars.
Oh sorry you are sweepers for rich Arabs OP forgot it
 
khushamdi andbghulam mentality OP! you are true representative of this nation! your kind will bow down for money or benifits or salute anyone with better social status than you!

so you are okay with the idea of us serving sauds because they are allied with western powers and they give us money in return!
 
Hi,

Why not---the british east india company did---the french did---the spaniards did---the catholic chruch did---the dutch did it.

Tariq Bin Ziyyad did---Yousuf Bin Tashfeen did---Mohammad Bin Qasim did---Khalid Bin Waleed did---.

Men are known by their enemies they have---.

What happened to your islamic warrior blood---.

What part of "War costs money" do you not understand.
 
Hi,

Some say ' hindsight 20/20 '---other say---' you should have thought about the consequences before hand'---' you should have thought about who you are---what your assets are---what your friends and allies need---what concerns your enemy---what assets that you have that your enemy does not want you to have---& what could the enemy do to remove those assets '---.

I seriously think that is a statement that shows like something too much to ask---even to a pakistani military General officer in command---because most of their interest lies in housing schemes---property---commissions---war on terror & things on similar line & length---India---.

The there is the mantra of tactical nucs---. Well the problem with that mantra is that the super power does not like that mantra---. The religionist evangelicals in the regime want to de-fang pakistan---and the only people who did not know abut that was the pakistani military generals---who sitting secure in their offices believed their assets are secure---I mean to say the nucs---.

What america does in front of everyone's face is that it keeps its enemies farthest away from the mainland---and keeps troops at out posts distant from the mainland and tells everyone what the reason is---yet the pakistani generals never understood it---the current pakistani prime minister does not understand it either---.

Pakistanis in general have a belief---don't bother us---we will not bother you---what they tend to forget is that they have around 200 nucs that can destroy the world---so the baby that wants to make itself look innocent singing gaga maybe innocent in its own mind---but to the outside world---it looks like a death wish come true---.

So---the nation that does not know its own strength---does not understand what steps it needed to take to expand to protect its assets---has no understanding and concept of having military bases outside of pakistan at critical locations---having no concept of having those assets---is basically clueless of its environment---.

And that was very obvious when the Yemen crisis started---. That was the time for pakistan to have understood what was at stake---what was going to happen---what was coming in the short term near future and what the long term future game plan of the opponent was---and then it should have gone ahead and firmed firmed up its grip on the region as was being permitted by the super power---.

The super power USA gave the region of the gulf states on a platter to pakistan---and the fools rejected it---. The terms used were---we don't want a war---we will not participate in a war---we are not mercenaries---even though all the conquests of the muslim empire were mercenary armies---all the great muslim warriors were mercenaries---payment was in loot and plunder---'maal a ghanimat '---.

Why did pakistan not do what it should have done---was just to please iran---and what was iran to pakistan---a muslim brother---and what was pakistan to iran---a fcking inferior dark skin nuc capable country---.

Pakistani generals have sold the integrity of the pakistani nation and the future welfare of the country trying to side with a pariah nation---a nation whose sole and only purpose is to create havoc in the region---.

If pakistan had a 150 K battle group in the gulf states---backed by a seperate air force---armor--- navy & transporation---the US would not be sending in its naval battle group and there would not have been any talk of 100K american troops in the region or the B52's striking iran---.

There would not have been any pulwama type attacks---because the indian power would have been neutered or lessened by the presnce of pakistani troops in the region---thus no attacks by indian air force on the night of the 26th---.

General Raheel---sir---you truly failed pakistan---when it was time to make some hard & timely decisions to move the pakistani military influence from outside of its borders and into the gulf region---.

I write this post seeing what is happening in the gulf---what the US military is doing in the gulf in the last few weeks and what their plans are---. Mastankhan
Mastan Sahib, it is very easy to settle in the comforts of American home with your family and preaching others to send their sons for a useless war among Muslim factions. We already lost thousands in fighting your new homeland's wars and in return betrayed and earn curse and threats.
Why you don't preach to wage Jihad against US 'Bugal Bacha' Israel? Are you afraid of blow-back from US authorities?
Arabs will always abandoned you against their interests with India - up to now what is their contribution for Kashmir cause. Even they are getting rid of Palestinians.
Considering present geopolitical and Pakistan's economic situation, could you please revise your preaching?
 
OP is somewhat right...

We are overestimating Iran's influence/proxy in Pakistan.

No, no civil war would have happened.

What did we get from Iran after showing NEUTRALITY????

Jadhav, Uzair Baloch? Ormara attack?

High time Pakistanis act confident and arrogant so that no one takes them for granted.

Iran is taking advantage of so called Pakistani fear of in house fighting.

They will try to create even more influence/proxy within Pakistan now.
 
This conflict between Iran and KSA, and the associated proxy wars, derives from their preposterous hegemonic ambitions and intents, ignited by sectarian, racial and ethnic fires and fueled by US, West and Israel and is fundamentally delusive, self destructive and disastrous. Pakistan shall remain, as far as possible, aloof from it.
 
Hi,

The hands of all the great muslim conquerers are red in blood---. Don't you study your own history---.

what is wrong with you kids---jerkoff---play video games---be on the facebook---instgram---video chat---pronography---is that all you kids do---.
You're a keyboard 6 star general [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. That's all you are.

Why didn't you go and fight in yemen with the Saudis while representing Pakistan??? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Boy go read a book or two and gain some knowledge. Or better yet. As my father had said to me, go travel the world and explore so you might prevent yourself from ignorance
 
OP is somewhat right...

We are overestimating Iran's influence/proxy in Pakistan.

No, no civil war would have happened.

What did we get from Iran after showing NEUTRALITY????

Jadhav, Uzair Baloch? Ormara attack?

High time Pakistanis act confident and arrogant so that no one takes them for granted.

Iran is taking advantage of so called Pakistani fear of in house fighting.

They will try to create even more influence/proxy within Pakistan now.

Nothing wrong with it but we have to understand the consequences and situation. We are already dealing with terrorists, and still have threat of terrorists.

We cannot afford the War in a remote country. We also cannot make more enemies. You enter Yemen, you are opening the gateway for another insurgent group to plan attacks in Pakistan, and you are leaving a security hole in your own country. What will we do? Devote intelligence for two places at once, as well as soldiers?
 
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