Pakistan's Babar-3 cruise missile launch fake, say some Indian experts

[NirmalKrish]

India can't accept this test, as theirs failed miserably. So they are trying to fictionalize Pakistani successes.

Accepting failure is not resorting to misery, it's called refining... your childish attitude explains you do not have an iota of knowledge when it comes to missile technology.

Try sending a probe to mars without failure on the first go! if you can't comprehend that, then you have no basis to comment on this issue. Cleary your just upset that your bluff has been called.

Pakistan has Faked a launch of a Chinese missile painted and rename as barbur, Nice try...

 

[faithfulguy]

Accepting failure is not resorting to misery, it's called refining... your childish attitude explains you do not have an iota of knowledge when it comes to missile technology.

Try sending a probe to mars without failure on the first go! if you can't comprehend that, then you have no basis to comment on this issue. Cleary your just upset that your bluff has been called.

Pakistan has Faked a launch of a Chinese missile painted and rename as barbur, Nice try...

You are a sad person coming up with fiction about Pakistani missile launch... as I said, it's ok to fail. But just because you fail, you have to insult others for their success show bitterness and lack of class.

 

[NirmalKrish]

Accepting failure is not resorting to misery, it's called refining... your childish attitude explains you do not have an iota of knowledge when it comes to missile technology.

Try sending a probe to mars without failure on the first go! if you can't comprehend that, then you have no basis to comment on this issue. Cleary your just upset that your bluff has been called.

Pakistan has Faked a launch of a Chinese missile painted and rename as barbur, Nice try...

@waz Can you audit this on what ground a negative rating was given? what the truth hit the raw nerve of @abdulbarijan. was my point not debated in the correct decorum unlike the profanity and gutter trash language that is used by the Chinese and Pakistani members? @WAJsal can you also shed some light.

This is getting seriously worse that babies crying for spitting the dummy.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Accepting failure is not resorting to misery, it's called refining... your childish attitude explains you do not have an iota of knowledge when it comes to missile technology.

Try sending a probe to mars without failure on the first go! if you can't comprehend that, then you have no basis to comment on this issue. Cleary your just upset that your bluff has been called.

Pakistan has Faked a launch of a Chinese missile painted and rename as barbur, Nice try...

All of what u just said(calling the test fake), if it came from ur media everyone here would be like "as expected...stupid Indian media" bcuz they r known for doing things like that.

But u on the other hand have been a member on this forum since 2011. Surely u must have come across news about Babur cruise missile through its various development stages so based on that years of development, this test was bound to happen eventually. Even if that's not enough to convince u since according to Indians Pakistan can achieve nothing on its own, how about the western media that Indians find so credible when they associate Pak with terrorism. Surely that must be the truth right

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/10/asia/pakistan-submarine-missile/index.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38563330

Willing to admit now that the test was real? Or still caught up in nationalism so intense that it blinds u to the truth?

PS also according to Indian's favorite most credible of all the medias, the western media says that Babur was made by reverse engineering tomahawk cruise missiles, so ur Chinese missile theory is unfounded

 

[Hulk]

Considering the level some across the
Border have been stooping to in their efforts to diss Pakistani achievements; the term pathetic & pitiful seems to be an understatement when concerning their mentality and state of minds.

Ditto my feeling for Pakistani talking about Indian achievements.

 

[NirmalKrish]

@waz Can you audit this on what ground a negative rating was given? what the truth hit the raw nerve of @abdulbarijan. was my point not debated in the correct decorum unlike the profanity and gutter trash language that is used by the Chinese and Pakistani members? @WAJsal can you also shed some light.

This is getting seriously worse that babies crying for spitting the dummy.

Your members are not mature, dishing out but unable to take it back. if your sentiments are so hurt, then quit the sheer hypocrisy.

 

[Hulk]

I am not going be drawn into this farcical discussion. I am not and neither is anybody else privy to suffficient information to confirm the validy of this claim. Least of all based on prejudices of a Indian source.

What I would say and what matters more is Indian and Pakistan military will know the truth and even if this claim is true it means nothing. Developing any system is frought with problems and propblems will crop up but those will be resolved.

It is only matter of time before Pakistan has full submarine based nuclear platforms. When it happens you can claim that Chinese sent ready system and Pakistan just sprayed green paint but all that won't matter because painted or not it will do it's job.

That job is simple. Making sure that the 1:7 advantage in numbers that India enjoys is equalized to 1:1

That 1:1 will never happen. India has more money and resources and the gap will continue to grow. If you are moving we are moving as well. Our defense modernisation is reaching a phase where slowely products are moving towards finish.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Ditto my feeling for Pakistani talking about Indian achievements.

Individuals aside(as they exist on both sides), at the very least u won't find the kind of verbal diarrhea that ur media says against Pakistan, in our media against India. At every instance of India accomplishing something such display of stupidity by our news channels is few and far between.

 

[NirmalKrish]

You are a sad person coming up with fiction about Pakistani missile launch... as I said, it's ok to fail. But just because you fail, you have to insult others for their success show bitterness and lack of class.

The only thing sad, is that you were not able to argue on facts, have you accomplished anything to that effect, are you able to send a rocket out of the stratosphere? let alone set a course for mars?

 

[Cookie Monster]

That 1:1 will never happen. India has more money and resources and the gap will continue to grow. If you are moving we are moving as well. Our defense modernisation is reaching a phase where slowely products are moving towards finish.

Yes u will grow as well but after the ability to completely decimate India at the second strike level is achieved, all of ur numerical advantage won't matter. Why would it matter if India is destroyed by nukes once and Pakistan is destroyed by nukes 7 times over?

The whole point of nukes(as seen throughout the cold war) is to keep a war from happening due to MAD scenario. So that continued build up wouldn't matter much, be it 1:100, 1:1000, if there is no war then any advantages or disadvantages in a sense have been equalized.

 

[Hulk]

Individuals aside(as they exist on both sides), at the very least u won't find the kind of verbal diarrhea that ur media says against Pakistan, in our media against India. At every instance of India accomplishing something such display of stupidity by our news channels is few and far between.

Dude. I saw news claiming Om Puri was killed by Modi and Dhoval.

Yes u will grow as well but after the ability to completely decimate India at the second strike level is achieved, all of ur numerical advantage won't matter. Why would it matter if India is destroyed by nukes once and Pakistan is destroyed by nukes 7 times over?

The whole point of nukes(as seen throughout the cold war) is to keep a war from happening due to MAD scenario. So that continued build up wouldn't matter much, be it 1:100, 1:1000, if there is no war then any advantages or disadvantages in a sense have been equalized.

Honestly. I am not big fan of nukes. I am clear neither country will use it. I feel only conventional war is possible and superiority matters only there. As far as India is concern all it wants is status quo. We have zero interest in fighting. Pakistan wants Kashmir. So the scenario you described works for us.

 

[faithfulguy]

The only thing sad, is that you were not able to argue on facts, have you accomplished anything to that effect, are you able to send a rocket out of the stratosphere? let alone set a course for mars?

I know that Indians like to get personal when you guys got owned in a debate. So I'll entertain fools for once. I'm not Pakistani. My only nationality now is USA. I'm originally from Taiwan. India used US deep space monitors to send a probe to Mars. Without US assistance, India will not be able to detect its probe that far away. I know many Indians like to claim that it can reach Mars. First of all congrats r that achievement. Secondly, if India can achieve it without US monitoring stations, it wont need to use American deep space resources. So without American help, India will never be able to send anything that far as it has no means to monitor them.

Now let's talk about why India should accept Pakistani achievements instead of being so bitter. India is showing that its lacking class. FACT.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The only thing sad, is that you were not able to argue on facts, have you accomplished anything to that effect, are you able to send a rocket out of the stratosphere? let alone set a course for mars?

Pakistan hasnt aimed for that and therefore hasnt yet tried. So ur comparison is based on a theoretical scenario?

Shouldn't u start this d*ck measuring show if and when Pakistan tries to launch a mission to Mars and fails?

If that happens then u can roll in here like a middle school kid with ur head held high and talk crap.

Otherwise what's the point of comparison between two different space agencies with hugely different budgets and different goals. That would be akin to an American telling Indians, "we've sent a satellite to the ends of our solar system and beyond, have u?"...
the point is there is no comparison between US and India at the moment but overtime India might get there. The same applies to Pakistan and all other countries.

Dude. I saw news claiming Om Puri was killed by Modi and Dhoval.

Look at a bigger sample size. For instance just google "Pakistan submarine cruise missile fake" and see how many Indian news sources pop up saying it's fake. Then google "Indian submarine launched ballistic missile fake"(or something like that for when u guys tested Agni) and see how many Pakistani news sources pop up trying to discredit it.

Honestly. I am not big fan of nukes. I am clear neither country will use it. I feel only conventional war is possible and superiority matters only there. As far as India is concern all it wants is status quo. We have zero interest in fighting. Pakistan wants Kashmir. So the scenario you described works for us.

Actually no India wants Kashmir too. U guys are so hardcore over the issue that even depictions of a correct geographical map(with current boundaries showing parts of Kashmir in China and Pakistan's borders) is tantamount to treason in India.

Also u cant possibly say with confidence that nukes would never be used(I really hope they are not), since u havent seen the future. When it comes to two hostile nuclear countries coming to blows, the only example we can draw from historically is US and USSR. The threat of MAD scenario kept them both from directly confronting each other.

As for, if confrontation happens still, u can't guarantee what a human(be it Indian or Pakistani...politician, general, etc.) might decide when facing war. Do u really have that much faith in those ppl on both sides that they will keep cool and not use it? All it takes is one side choosing to use it and both countries go up in flames.

 

[SQ8]

Ditto my feeling for Pakistani talking about Indian achievements.

Thank you wasting our time then. How about not posting here again if you are so offended

We would really really appreciate the gesture

 

[Thorough Pro]

Babur 3 test has not only confirmed Pakistan's second strike capability, it also opened flood gates of hidden indian retardness