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CAESAR self-propelled 155mm gun-howitzer installed on an 8X8 truck chassis


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Well one thing is certain that TATRA chassis is being adopted for Caesar 8x8 and already adopted for Denel T5. Can be adopted to NORA B52. Its all about the Gun now which gun will be chosen.
 
T5 and NORA B52 is what we looked into and both are good on paper. Some modified/altered version was also presented after initial trials by NORA so i think they are leading the race. T5 is an excellent platform too. G6 is not really what we are after right now. It do offers some improvements over T5-52 but our requirements (of a highly mobile, wheeled SPH) are met by T5 and NORA as well so we may not be spending extra of G6.

G-6 or similar system is what actually needed due to various factors and NBC protection, mobility, rate of fire, protection against exploded shell splinters are just few of those factors, its better or comparable to B-52, T-5 will have survivability issues against heavy fire power from land and air.

NASR have been inducted for Indian IBGs

Its last line of defense not primary weapon, go through Azm e Nau exercise to understand how Pakistan will respond.
 
Well one thing is certain that TATRA chassis is being adopted for Caesar 8x8 and already adopted for Denel T5. Can be adopted to NORA B52. Its all about the Gun now which gun will be chosen.


So we will have the TATRA Chassis no matter what the same one 1 posted?
 
So we will have the TATRA Chassis no matter what the same one 1 posted?
No I didn't say that. The Tatra Chassis is being chosen for artillery systems by various nations. Denmark has chosen TATRA for Caesar last month. It is a very good Truck and if Pakistan choses it then It will be the right decision, IMO.

Denmark to purchase CAESAR howitzers on the Tatra chassis
18 March, 2017

The tender for new howitzers for the Danish army was awarded to the French company Nexter Systems for the CAESAR 8x8 on the Tatra chassis. Deliveries are to be made by the end of this decade. This is the first project where the Tatra chassis has been projected as a new weapons platform for a Western member of NATO.



The Danish Ministry of Defence announced that they have chosen the CAESAR 8x8 type offered by the French company Nexter Systems in a tender for a new self-propelled 155 mm NATO howitzer. In the final phase, the choice was between the CAESAR howitzer on a four-axle Tatra chassis and the Israeli-type ATMOS made by the ELBIT Corporation, also mounted on the Tatra chassis. The Danish army's order is for 15 howitzers with an option for six more.

The French arms maker NEXTER Systems is one of the three largest and most important European companies of its kind. The latest version of the 155mm CAESAR 8x8 howitzer on the Tatra chassis was officially unveiled recently. "After a jointly developed TITUS vehicle, it's another example of the successful cooperation between NEXTER Systems and Tatra," said the Chairman of the Board of TATRA TRUCKS Petr Rusek. The latest version of the CAESAR 8x8 howitzer is built on a four-axle TATRA FORCE chassis and in its basic configuration uses the entire drive train made by the truck maker from Kopřivnice. Specifically, the original eight-cylinder direct air-cooled Tatra engine, Tatra main transmission equipped with the semiautomatic TATRA-NORGREN gear-shifting system and auxiliary transmission (drop box), also Tatra-branded. The chassis is equipped with all-wheel drive and air suspension on all axles, which is unique for vehicles of this weight category.

"Thanks to its unique and exceptional concept with a rigid central tube and independently suspended half-axles, the Tatra chassis offers completely new possibilities for the CEASAR project and our customers. "It significantly expands the use of the weapon system not only in terms of its mobility, but also in its structural modularity and the possibility of using a substantially increased payload with a simultaneously higher horsepower-to-GVW ratio. These benefits were decisive in our choice of the chassis supplier," said Alexander Penley, the Vice President of NEXTER Systems for Europe and Central Asia.

http://www.tatratrucks.com/about-th...rchase-caesar-howitzers-on-the-tatra-chassis/
 
South Africa also have the T6-52 turret which is basically the turret from the G6 that can be fitted to a tank chassis.

If we're thinking long term this provides scope for commonality between wheeled and tracked armoured systems.
 
Nora isn't on the same planet as the Denel or Nexter gun. If the Nora is chosen, someone's on the take.
 
No I didn't say that. The Tatra Chassis is being chosen for artillery systems by various nations. Denmark has chosen TATRA for Caesar last month. It is a very good Truck and if Pakistan choses it then It will be the right decision, IMO.

Denmark to purchase CAESAR howitzers on the Tatra chassis
18 March, 2017

The tender for new howitzers for the Danish army was awarded to the French company Nexter Systems for the CAESAR 8x8 on the Tatra chassis. Deliveries are to be made by the end of this decade. This is the first project where the Tatra chassis has been projected as a new weapons platform for a Western member of NATO.



The Danish Ministry of Defence announced that they have chosen the CAESAR 8x8 type offered by the French company Nexter Systems in a tender for a new self-propelled 155 mm NATO howitzer. In the final phase, the choice was between the CAESAR howitzer on a four-axle Tatra chassis and the Israeli-type ATMOS made by the ELBIT Corporation, also mounted on the Tatra chassis. The Danish army's order is for 15 howitzers with an option for six more.

The French arms maker NEXTER Systems is one of the three largest and most important European companies of its kind. The latest version of the 155mm CAESAR 8x8 howitzer on the Tatra chassis was officially unveiled recently. "After a jointly developed TITUS vehicle, it's another example of the successful cooperation between NEXTER Systems and Tatra," said the Chairman of the Board of TATRA TRUCKS Petr Rusek. The latest version of the CAESAR 8x8 howitzer is built on a four-axle TATRA FORCE chassis and in its basic configuration uses the entire drive train made by the truck maker from Kopřivnice. Specifically, the original eight-cylinder direct air-cooled Tatra engine, Tatra main transmission equipped with the semiautomatic TATRA-NORGREN gear-shifting system and auxiliary transmission (drop box), also Tatra-branded. The chassis is equipped with all-wheel drive and air suspension on all axles, which is unique for vehicles of this weight category.

"Thanks to its unique and exceptional concept with a rigid central tube and independently suspended half-axles, the Tatra chassis offers completely new possibilities for the CEASAR project and our customers. "It significantly expands the use of the weapon system not only in terms of its mobility, but also in its structural modularity and the possibility of using a substantially increased payload with a simultaneously higher horsepower-to-GVW ratio. These benefits were decisive in our choice of the chassis supplier," said Alexander Penley, the Vice President of NEXTER Systems for Europe and Central Asia.

http://www.tatratrucks.com/about-th...rchase-caesar-howitzers-on-the-tatra-chassis/

The truck seriously looks cool by the way what is the range of this Artillery system
 
all the guns (52 cal) have roughly the same range, depends on the ammunition. range should not be what decides the gun.
 
The truck seriously looks cool by the way what is the range of this Artillery system

The CAESAR has a firing range of approximately 42 km using an Extended Range, Full Bore (ERFB) shell, and more than 50 km using rocket assisted shells.

While Nora B-52 Ammo has range From 32 KM till 56 KM
 
The CAESAR has a firing range of approximately 42 km using an Extended Range, Full Bore (ERFB) shell, and more than 50 km using rocket assisted shells.

While Nora B-52 Ammo has range From 32 KM till 56 KM
Nora B-52 also has high rate of fire
‎6-12 projectiles per minute depending on version.
 
Is it gonna be this one??

CAESAR self-propelled 155mm gun-howitzer installed on an 8X8 truck chassis


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Would you Look at that BEAST :D :D
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Why dont we manufacture our own chasis ... Pakistan continously have a need of chasis be it missile delivery, self propelled howitzer and armoured personnel carrier ...
 

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