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Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

i think u will hav to reconsider that

The Ericsson Erieye system uses an active phased array radar mounted in a two sided array geometry. The whole array is contained in a large beam shaped structure carried above the fuselage of a commuter twin airframe. The limitation of the two sided array is that it can only cover two 120 degree sectors abeam of the aircraft, leaving 60 degree blind sectors over the nose and tail of the aircraft, and reduced antenna performance from 45 degrees off the beam aspect. Another limitation stems from the use of an airframe too small to accommodate a comprehensive self contained command, control and communications system, and other sensors such as a capable ESM and track association system

Arsalan has suggested you go through this thread for a good reason. The above statement of your post is wrong. Erieye has 360° coverage and the proof has been posted in this thread time and again.

Please go through the thread or try reading the brochure of erieye on the saab website.
 
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Arsalan has suggested you go through this thread for a good reason. The above statement of your post is wrong. Erieye has 360° coverage and the proof has been posted in this thread time and again.

Please go through the thread or try reading the brochure of erieye on the saab website.

sorry cant find it please do help me with a link.
 
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sorry cant find it please do help me with a link.

Thats because there are 40+ pages to this trhead and you have not bothered reading them, and instead just butt in halfassed.

Please show respect to the people posting on this thread and read through the comments, instead of being lazy and asking others to search throught the posts and find the links for you.

Reading through the thread is important since you won't end up repeating old arguments again and again, and will read through questions and views that you may not have considered.

Thanks.
 
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Thats because there are 40+ pages to this trhead and you have not bothered reading them, and instead just butt in halfassed.

Please show respect to the people posting on this thread and read through the comments, instead of being lazy and asking others to search throught the posts and find the links for you.

Reading through the thread is important since you won't end up repeating old arguments again and again, and will read through questions and views that you may not have considered.

Thanks.

:crazy:duh i dint need that nor did i expect that,if u have the link do kindly post:wave:.
 
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:crazy:duh i dint need that nor did i expect that,if u have the link do kindly post:wave:.

Oh you deserved it since you havn't bothered to read the thread.

Its quite annoying when people don't read the thread since they repeat the same question again and again, which is what you have done.

Read the thread and you'll find the answer to your question - end of discussion.
 
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Airforce-technology.com has finally treated the Saab 2000 AEW&C Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft as separate from S-100/Saab-340AEW&C and detailed it in separate entry still missed following parts

Saab-340/ S-100 Erieye has an instrumental range of 450km (limited through software)and detection range of 350 km in a dense hostile electronic warfare environment. From its standard operational altitude of 6000 metres (19,685 feet, or FL200) the radar has a maximum range of 450 km (279 miles). Against a fighter-sized target effective range is approximately 330 km (205 miles). Seaborne targets can be detected at 320 km (198 miles), though this is a function of the aircraft’s cruising height. So Saab 2000 Erieye airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has standard operational altitude of 9144 metres so it will have greater range then Saab-340 AEW&C. Based on typical use rates, the remaining life of the AEW&C is more than 35 years, with options for further re-lifing.

Saab says the use of new-generation radar transmit/receive modules with 60% higher output have increased the AEW range of the Erieye design, which can also now detect hovering helicopters and track small naval targets to a range of 350km (190nm).

Virtually all of the radar components have been replaced since the Erieye was first fielded in 1996, and all of the computer systems are COTS-based for cost-effective and rapid upgrade. Power output is around 20 percent greater than it was previously, although power requirements, and thus cooling, for the mission system have decreased by 30 percent. The effects of improvement can also be seen in a 53-percent reduction in system weight and 78-percent reduction in floor space. At the same time, computing power has increased a hundredfold.

Saab 2000 AEW&C Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft, Sweden

The Saab 2000 AEW&C airborne early warning and control aircraft is a variant of the Saab 2000 regional transport turboprop aircraft equipped with the spine-mounted Saab Systems Erieye PS-890 side-looking reconnaissance radar.

The first customer for the Saab 2000 AEW&C, the Pakistan Fiza'ya (the Pakistan Air Force), placed the order on Saab, based in Stockholm, in June 2006. The first of five aircraft was rolled out in April 2008 and is scheduled to enter service in 2009. Thailand announced the selection of the Saab 2000 AEW&C in June 2007.

The aircraft, fully equipped for airborne early warning and control, can also be used for national security missions, border control, airborne command and control, disaster management coordination and for emergency air traffic control.


Saab 2000 construction

Saab Surveillance Systems is the lead contractor for the Saab 2000 AEW&C programme. Saab Aerotech is responsible for the development and modification of the Saab 2000 regional aircraft to the AEW&C configuration. Six other Saab business units are also contracted for major elements of the programme.

The outer wing sections have been strengthened, as has the roof of the fuselage, to accommodate the weight of the Erieye antenna and its housing. The vertical tail area has been increased to provide improved stabilisation.

Main cabin
The main cabin is fitted with five mission operator consoles on the starboard side. The windows on the starboard side of the main cabin have been removed. The cabin is air-conditioned and fitted with an active noise cancellation system.

The aft section of the main cabin accommodates fuel tanks and mission equipment. Two auxiliary fuel tanks are installed on the starboard side in the mid fuselage section immediately aft of the mission consoles.

The mission operator consoles perform: system and sensor management; mission planning and simulation; track data processing; asset management and control; identification and allocation. The display systems incorporate digital maps and use high-resolution flat-panel colour displays and touch input display controls. The main cabin aft section also accommodates the electronic warfare equipment, the Erieye equipment and the Erieye power units.

Radar
Saab Microwave Systems (formerly Ericsson) is the lead contractor for the Erieye surveillance radar. The Erieye radar is operational on a number of other aircraft including the Saab 340, Embraer R-99 and Embraer EMB-145. Erieye is an active phased array pulse Doppler radar operating in the 3.1GHz to 3.3GHz band. The radar is operational from three minutes after take-off and during climb and provides an effective surveillance area of 500,000km².

The Erieye radar has an instrumental range of 450km and detection range of 350km against a fighter aircraft sized target in dense hostile electronic warfare environments and at low target altitudes. The system is capable of tracking multiple air and sea target over the horizon and provides above 20km altitude coverage, 360° coverage and has sea surveillance capability. The radar incorporates an identification friend or foe interrogator. The system comprises an active phased array pulse Doppler radar with a secondary surveillance radar.

The fixed dual sided electronically scanned antenna array is installed in a rectangular housing, dorsally mounted above the fuselage.


Electronic warfare suite


The aircraft's electronic warfare suite is based on the Saab Avitronics HES-21 electronic support measures (ESM) and self-protection suite. The HES-21 also provides a ground-based support system (EGSS), which provides mission data for the aircraft electronic warfare system and for analysis of recorded data.

Electronic support measures

The electronic support measures (ESM) system comprises digital narrow band and wide band receivers and associated antennae, providing close to 100 % probability of intercept (POI). The digital receiver is equipped with interferometer antenna arrays.

The ESM obtains the electronic order of battle (EOB) data and intercepts, characterises and identifies signals, defines their direction of arrival, generating and displaying warning information. The ESM system operates autonomously and allows real time ESM analysis and presentation to the ESM operator on board the aircraft. ESM data is recorded during missions for post mission tactical and technical analysis. Information is transferred to other onboard systems including the command and control system and the radio data link-controller.

The radar receivers cover low band (7GHz to 2GHz), mid band (2GHz to 18GHz) and high band (28GHz to 40GHz).

The digital RF receiver provides very high sensitivity and selectivity and uses fast Fourier transforms (FFT) and channelisation signal processing techniques. The ESM's wide band and narrow band receivers provide 360° coverage, and close to 100% probability of intercept. The system provides high sensitivity and selectivity in dense and hostile signal environments.

Self-protection system

The self-protection system (SPS) comprises: defensive aids control system, radar warning, laser warning, missile approach warning and chaff and flare dispenser systems. The self-protection suite provides selection and, in automatic mode, the initiation of the chaff and countermeasures sequences.

The laser warning system is based on the Saab Avitronics LWS-310 laser warner operating in the 0.5 to 17 microns wavelength bands. Spatial and spectral coverage is provided by an array of three sensors on each side of the aircraft.

The missile launch and approach warner (MAW) is based on the Saab Avitronics MAW-300, which can simultaneously monitor and track up to eight threats. It has four sensors, two on each side, and each with 110° azimuthal coverage to provide the overlapped 360° spatial coverage.

The chaff and flare dispensing system (CFDS) comprises a dispenser control unit, (CFDC) with a cockpit mounted display and control panel, defensive aids suite computer with a threat library database, two BOL electromechanical dispensers and six BOP pyrotechnical dispensers.

The BOL dispenser is a high-capacity, 160-cartridges, electro-mechanical chaff dispenser. The BOL dispensers are installed in the fairings under the wingtip-mounted radar warning pods. The dispenser incorporates vortex generators which provide chaff blooming characteristics and a chaff cloud Doppler response.

The BOP dispenser is a pyrotechnic dispenser carrying Nato standard rectangular cartridges or magazines of 39 1in² cartridges. The dispenser has the capability to dispense different ammunition types concurrently. The BOP dispensers are housed on each side of the underside of the fuselage to the aft of the wings.

Engine

The aircraft is fitted with two Rolls-Royce AE 2100A turboprop engines developing 3,095kW.
 
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All this is old news but thanks for the refresher anyway.

Canyou point me to some link detailing about the mission operator consoles and their functions of “Saab 2000 AEW&C”
 
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Canyou point me to some link detailing about the mission operator consoles and their functions of “Saab 2000 AEW&C”

What kind of details are you looking for?

They perform the functions that you mentioned above. There are 5 mission operator consoles and they are role based so no difference between consoles i.e anyone can log in with his defined role on any console. You can even remotely control all the consoles without having any operator on board.

I am sorry, I didn't get you question correctly, kindly rephrase it. I will keep an eye for any details and post here if I find some.

In the meantime, here are some links but basically the same as you posted above maybe one or two things new.

1. Saab Debut '2000 Special Mission Aircraft at Farnborough

2. Saab 2000 AEW&C prepares for duty: AINonline

3. http://www.saabgroup.com/NR/rdonlyr...ECA8/7511/Saab_2000_ERIEYE_AEWC_Datasheet.pdf
 
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Geo News stated that today (28.05.09) Saab 2000 AEW&C Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft is going to be enter in PAF in September or October. Air Chief Rao Qamar Suleman declared on his address on the passing out parade in PAF academy at Raisalpur.
:pakistan::bounce::pakistan:
 
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PAF capable of destroying drones: Air Chief

RISALPUR: Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman Thursday said that air force destroyed several hideouts and caches of ammunitions of militants and paved the way for the military to make advance in the troubled areas of Swat.

He said that air force is completely supporting the military in its ongoing efforts in the tribal areas and Swat, adding F-16, F-7 and Mirages are taking part in the Swat operation.

The Air Chief maintained that Pakistan armed forces are grappling with not only the greater external enemies but also the problems of extremism and terrorism within the country.

Later talking to journalists, he said targeting the drones and taking them down is not a problem and Pakistan Air Force is fully capable for the purpose; however, any decision in this regard rests with the parliament and the government.

However, the Air Chief added that the action could lead Pakistan to confrontation with Nato or US.

Air Chief Marshal Rao said that Pakistan shot down Indian UAV drone during the 2001-02 standoff with India.

He hoped that Pakistan is likely to receive AWACS planes in November or October, adding India was given the same aircrafts which could lead to fresh escalation and arms race in the region.

Rao Qamar Suleman said that the country has a lot of expectations from the Air Force, which it will try to fulfil at all cost without fail.
 
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very good news.
but will some one guide us , our system is better then the,
which indian received from israel ? or not better ?
 
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very good news.
but will some one guide us , our system is better then the,
which indian received from israel ? or not better ?

Their system is better. PAF's is nearly as good, it has some advantages over theirs which make it more suited for the needs of PAF.
 
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very good news.
but will some one guide us , our system is better then the,
which indian received from israel ? or not better ?

well in these cases the comparison never gives you an authentic conclusion of which system is better! all we can do is to compare ther specs. the specs of SAAB Erieye systems have been disscussed over and over again but that of phalcons is not available in that much detail:

to start with, the israeli PHALCON AWACS are termed as one of the best AWACS system of the world. no such thing is claimed about the erieye but a point that must not be neglected is that the phalcon system is some 25 years old and the claim of "being the best" also date back to thst tim while the erieye is still a new and modren system with no history to tell us its real time abilities but still, it is a new system of the current time and not from the 80z.

as for the range, the erieye seem to have won some extra points here,
"It can help monitor the military build-up, troop and aircraft movements nearly 200 km inside Pakistan while flying nearly 100 km inside your own territory," says Air Marshal A.K. Goel (retd IAF officer)this indicates the range being some where around +300 Km.
also form another article
"Phalcon AWACS, for instance, will be able to detect a two square metre target from over 200 km away. Bigger targets can be spotted from 400 to 500 km away.
also adding a report which stated
The system is used for tactical surveillance of airborne and surface targets and intelligence gathering to a radius of over 400 km.

so it can be said that the detection range for a fighter plane is some where around 250 -300Km and a survelince range of about 400 -450 Km

for the erieye the dection range of a fighter size object is +350Km in a dense hostile electronic warfare environmentand general instrumental range is 450 Km. in addition it also have a sea surveillance mode.

as far as the platform carrying these radars are concerned, the indian are the winners here with superior russian plae with more speed, service celing and range!

so for conclusion, in my opinion both are equally good for there owners and our system definetly serves us the best and satisfy our needs!

i hope this comparison was helpfull and easy to understand for all the respected members!

regards!
 
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I thought the ERIEYE's predecessor has been and is in service with the swedes for a long time too.
 
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