Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[SBD-3]

none at the moment but going forward 5

 

[HAIDER]

He expressed the desire for cooperation in advanced versions of AWACS for enhancing Pakistan’s airborne defence capability. Chen Qiufa, Administrator of China’s State Administration for Science, Technology and Industry for National Defence who led a delegation of China’s defence-related companies at the meeting, said that China fully supported Pakistan’s efforts in the war against terror.

DAWN.COM | World | China vows support for efforts to boost security

 

[raveolution]

none at the moment but going forward 5

4 Erieye's... one is just a basic refurbished transport version. The first is to be delivered this month hopefully.

Erieye radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Arsalan]

i dont understand what are all these delays about???
i mean how many times this have happened to us that we start saying that Pakistan is getting this system but then it turns out to take years before we do get them. for example we have been hearing about SPADA ans FT2000 SAM systems since some where in 2004 and now it is almost 2010. similarly the Erieyes have been under discussion and still we have no idea when will they be deleivered. simillarly there is no news about mid-air refueler planes that too we have been listening about since years now!

regards!

 

[raveolution]

i dont understand what are all these delays about???
i mean how many times this have happened to us that we start saying that Pakistan is getting this system but then it turns out to take years before we do get them. for example we have been hearing about SPADA ans FT2000 SAM systems since some where in 2004 and now it is almost 2010. similarly the Erieyes have been under discussion and still we have no idea when will they be deleivered. simillarly there is no news about mid-air refueler planes that too we have been listening about since years now!

regards!

The first Erieye was to be delivered by June 2009 so the delay is not that much. I guess this is a crucial system for the PAF and a big deal to it, so a little delay is fine. However if it gets delayed beyond this year, there is cause for concern as the IAF has already deployed its first Phalcon AWACS.

As for other systems concerned, I guess when the PAF expresses interest or some article regarding the PAF Chief's speech comes out, people think that the PAF has already ordered them or is 100% going for them. However there are various evaluations, negotiations, approvals, etc which are required. Also there is a funding problem, so the PAF always prioritizes acquisitions as per their operational doctrine.

 

[wangrong]

one Question ：



we know PAF‘s System Including KJ200+SAAB2000+J10+JF17+F16

the US will not agree .......

 

[HAIDER]

Above question been repeated so many times. Pakistan is using two different platform , one is chinese other is Nato standards. Chinese one is connected with Chinese satellite system, which is KJ200, JF17,FC20 and Mirage ROSE. And second one is F16s Swed Saab, PC3s, which are connected with NATO datalink. Well its only few countries in the world who are running two complete air borne early warning system side by side.

 

[raveolution]

Above question been repeated so many times. Pakistan is using two different platform , one is chinese other is Nato standards. Chinese one is connected with Chinese satellite system, which is KJ200, JF17,FC20 and Mirage ROSE. And second one is F16s Swed Saab, PC3s, which are connected with NATO datalink. Well its only few countries in the world who are running two complete air borne early warning system side by side.

Hi Haider.... Running two systems side by side which are not compatible with the entire fleet are more of a disadvantage than an advantage. It means that if there is a strike force comprising a mix of aircraft (Strike, CAP, Support, etc), two AWACS would have to be up instead of one, sacrificing efficiency as well. Also if a certain type of AWACS were lost or grounded, the other would not be able to step in due to non-compatibilty.

Value your feedback... Cheers

 

[raveolution]

one Question ：



we know PAF‘s System Including KJ200+SAAB2000+J10+JF17+F16

the US will not agree .......

Hi Wangrong... what do you mean by the US will not agree?

 

[wangrong]

Hi Wangrong... what do you mean by the US will not agree?

Conformity F16/SAAB2000 enters the Chinese system

 

[HAIDER]

Hi Haider.... Running two systems side by side which are not compatible with the entire fleet are more of a disadvantage than an advantage. It means that if there is a strike force comprising a mix of aircraft (Strike, CAP, Support, etc), two AWACS would have to be up instead of one, sacrificing efficiency as well. Also if a certain type of AWACS were lost or grounded, the other would not be able to step in due to non-compatibilty.

Value your feedback... Cheers

No, they are for two different duties, F16 and PC3 orion basically perform NATO duties in Indian ocean. Or coordinated strikes on terrorist hide out between Pak-Afghan region. Basic duties of Chinese AWAC will be Pak-Indian border area. But thats for sure PC3s and F16 are datalink with NATO forces and air borne system.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Guys, We are in middle of October 2009, Any news about Erieye coming to Pakistan?? I am getting desperate.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Hi Haider.... Running two systems side by side which are not compatible with the entire fleet are more of a disadvantage than an advantage. It means that if there is a strike force comprising a mix of aircraft (Strike, CAP, Support, etc), two AWACS would have to be up instead of one, sacrificing efficiency as well. Also if a certain type of AWACS were lost or grounded, the other would not be able to step in due to non-compatibilty.

Value your feedback... Cheers

All Pakistani Fighters Jets and both AWACS(KJ200 and Erieye) will be data linked.

 

[raveolution]

All Pakistani Fighters Jets and both AWACS(KJ200 and Erieye) will be data linked.

Is that confirmed? Could you post any link for the same for my further reading? Thanks in advance. Haider has indicated otherwise.

 

[raveolution]

No, they are for two different duties, F16 and PC3 orion basically perform NATO duties in Indian ocean. Or coordinated strikes on terrorist hide out between Pak-Afghan region. Basic duties of Chinese AWAC will be Pak-Indian border area. But thats for sure PC3s and F16 are datalink with NATO forces and air borne system.

Haider, you are right about the F16's and P3C's being linked with the Erieye's. The F16's do come with conditions on their use, but however it is indeed short sighted to assume that the PAF would not use the same in the event of any conflict other than the War on Terror, as indicated by General Musharraf a few weeks back.