Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Kompromat]

i cannot understand the Term "Co developed"

 

[Arsalan]

i cannot understand the Term "Co developed"

yeap
well one thing can be stated at this point of time, the rolls out was atteded by PAF chairman, it was stated to be indyucted into PAF at time of roll out, it seems that PAF will be fully involved in flight testing and eveluation.

the system cannot be completely inducted at time of roll out and declared operation ready, there will be flight tests. the attendance of PAF at roll out point that we will be involved in these test and trails.

that is good, perhaps we can figure out some extra requirment if necessary and modify the future plance accordingly.

Pakistan part/role in development, i dont have a hint of it as yet...

 

[fatman17]

this variant is 'pak-specific' just like F-7PG, F-20 (in future), JFT whereby PAF pilots and technicians are involved in the 'development' phase of these aircrafts. the pilots flight-test these planes, give their 'inputs' and the relevant changes are incorporated.

ACmdr K/Tufail was a 'test-pilot' for the F-7PG. their inputs incorporated at 10-12 changes in the F-7PG before they were delivered to the PAF. similarly for the AWACS, and other weapons platforms.

this is what i understand for 'co-developed'

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

^^^^^^

well said mota man

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

^^^^^^

well said mota man

hahahaha... with apologies

 

[fatman17]

ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle

Variant fitted with AESA radar specifically for export to the Pakistan Air Force

The ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle is based upon the KJ-200 'Balance Beam'

ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle

Pakistan Air Force
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On Order;4

- Note: An order for 4 aircraft, reportedly to the value of around $280 million, was signed in December 2008. Deliveries were originally expected to commence during 2010, but the first aircraft destined for the Pakistan AF wasn't rolled-out until 13th November 2010.

AFI

 

[Kompromat]

this variant is 'pak-specific' just like F-7PG, F-20 (in future), JFT whereby PAF pilots and technicians are involved in the 'development' phase of these aircrafts. the pilots flight-test these planes, give their 'inputs' and the relevant changes are incorporated.

ACmdr K/Tufail was a 'test-pilot' for the F-7PG. their inputs incorporated at 10-12 changes in the F-7PG before they were delivered to the PAF. similarly for the AWACS, and other weapons platforms.

this is what i understand for 'co-developed'

One of the Best Pilots PAF has Produced.

 

[ussad]

pakistan needs limited awacs...like 4 can do da job...because our airspace iis to small.... northern Air Command and southern air command requires them...

ZDK-03 advantage is that it can stay up in the air longer as compare to the SAAB-2000 and therefore is usefull... but the problem is that it needs to be maintained alot and it eats fuel alot....

besides Chinese equipment and spare parts r easily available.

_Assad
astroaviator.com

 

[TaimiKhan]

pakistan needs limited awacs...like 4 can do da job...because our airspace iis to small.... northern Air Command and southern air command requires them...

ZDK-03 advantage is that it can stay up in the air longer as compare to the SAAB-2000 and therefore is usefull... but the problem is that it needs to be maintained alot and it eats fuel alot....

besides Chinese equipment and spare parts r easily available.

_Assad
astroaviator.com

No, 4 can't do the job. We need atleast 8-12 AWACS in service, as 3-4 are needed to be in the air during times of war or emergency, to provide non stop coverage, as these aircrafts need to land, get refueled, operational maintenance requirements and other stuff. So, need extra ones, which can replace the ones who are done with their time in air and need to be grounded for maintenance and stuff, so this cycle will keep on going, as wars can be 2 weeks+, thus non stop they are gonna be flying, so extra planes are needed.

Plus, if the PAF ones have the P&W made engines, then we not need to worry about fuel consumption a lot, as P&T engines are not fuel consuming headaches.

 

[Luftwaffe]

As fatman17 said, ZDK-03 has western powerplants from Canada. US or not it is a North American powerplant specifically Canada. Canada is very matured developed experienced manufacturer of powerplants.

So we don't need to worry about alot of fuel consumption.

 

[Safriz]

No, 4 can't do the job. We need atleast 8-12 AWACS in service, as 3-4 are needed to be in the air during times of war or emergency, to provide non stop coverage, as these aircrafts need to land, get refueled, operational maintenance requirements and other stuff. So, need extra ones, which can replace the ones who are done with their time in air and need to be grounded for maintenance and stuff, so this cycle will keep on going, as wars can be 2 weeks+, thus non stop they are gonna be flying, so extra planes are needed.

Plus, if the PAF ones have the P&W made engines, then we not need to worry about fuel consumption a lot, as P&T engines are not fuel consuming headaches.

They need to land for fuel and maintenance,and don't forget that these planes also get shot down

Having a few extras will always help.

 

[TaimiKhan]

As fatman17 said, ZDK-03 has western powerplants from Canada. US or not it is a North American powerplant specifically Canada. Canada is very matured developed experienced manufacturer of powerplants.

So we don't need to worry about alot of fuel consumption.

Just slight correction, P&W Canada is a subsidiary company of P&W USA, thus technically, the engine manufacturer is US, though it has the some manufacturing base/plant in the Canada.

 

[air marshal]

Induction of China made AEW&C to bring improvement in PAF defence operation: Rao

ZHUHAI, NOV 21 (APP): The introduction of China’s made ZDK-03 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) aircraft will bring a revolution in our air defence operation, said Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force (PAF) here.

He expressed these views in an interview with APP on the sides lines of the 8th China Aviation and Aerospace exhibition.

The air show that held at China’s southern coastal city of Zhuhai concluded on Sunday.

Before arriving here, the PAF Chief attended the roll-out ceremony held in Hanzhong for first Shaanxi ZDK-03 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) aircraft designed specifically for Pakistan Air Force (PAF).

PAF has plans to induct a total of four Shaanxi ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft in its inventory.

Those countries having no AEW&C aircraft they mostly rely on ground base radar system. The ground base radar system, he said has “very serious limitations in terms of their surveillance and detections”.

On the contrary, he said that AEW&C has the capability of detection for hundreds of miles.

Highlighting the importance of the AEW&C, Rao Qamar said that it can detect quite early any object flying from the enemy side and you can take action to counter the threat.

So, the Air chief Marshal said that it is a revolution that will come in PAF air defence operation after induction of AEW&C aircrafts.

“There are very few countries in the world having AEW&C technology using in their air forces”, he noted.

A proud Air Marshal pointed out that PAF will now also join the rank of these countries.

He said that the delivery of some of the AEW&C aircraft from Sweden has started, but the Chinese aircraft will begin joining PAF from the first quarter of the next year.

 

[air marshal]

YouTube - Chinese ZDK-03 AWACS aircraft for Pakistan Air Force: Roll out ceremony held in China

 

[Proud to be Pakistani]

Sorry to go off topic. Just saw some videos of the Chinese Aviation show and i think that the JF-17 RD-93D engine, smoke issue is still not addressed completely. It was giving smoke.