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Pakistani-Canadians: Falling below the poverty line
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Pakistan-born immigrants are the new face of poverty in urban Canada. The Canadian census revealed that 44 per cent of Pakistan-born immigrants fell below the poverty line making them the second most poverty prone group of immigrants in Canada.

While they may project an aura of opulence during their visits back home, their life in Canada, however, is often full of struggle and frustration. Thousands of Pakistani trained engineers, doctors, and PhDs are driving taxis or are working as security guards in large cities. In fact, one in three taxi-drivers in Canada was born in either India or Pakistan. Several others are unemployed thus becoming a burden on Canadian taxpayers.

The latest Census data for income for 2005 revealed that Pakistan-born immigrants reported the second highest incidence for the low-income cut-off, a proxy for poverty line in Canada. :woot: In comparison, only 18 per cent of India-born immigrants in Canada reported being a low-income person or belonging to a low-income economic family. Immigrants born in the United Kingdom, Portugal, Italy and Germany reported the lowest incidence of poverty in Canada.
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Unlike in the Middle East where the Arab governments do not allow assimilation of migrant workers, the Canadian government and the society to a large extent does not create systematic barriers that may limit the immigrants’ ability to succeed and assimilate in Canada. This is not to suggest that immigrants face no barriers at all in Canada. They in fact do. For instance, Pakistan-trained doctors cannot practice medicine without completing further training in Canada. The shorter duration of medical training in Pakistan necessitates the additional certification for doctors. Engineering graduates from Pakistan, however, face no such barrier because the engineering curriculum and the duration of training in Pakistan is similar to that in Canada.

Despite the opportunities (and constraints), Pakistani-Canadians have not prospered as much as immigrants from other countries have. In 2005, wages earned by Pakistan-born immigrants were on average 70 per cent of the wages earned by those born in Canada. In comparison, wages earned by the India-born immigrants were 86 per cent of the wages earned by Canadians. At the same time, immigrants born in America earned 20 per cent more in wages than those born in Canada. Similarly, UK-born immigrants also reported on average higher wages than that of Canadian-born.
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Because of lower wages, the Pakistan-born immigrants reported as one of the lowest home-ownership rates. Only 55 per cent of Pakistan-born immigrants reported owning their homes. In comparison, 75 per cent of the India-born immigrants owned their homes. At the same time, while only 12 per cent of the India- and Philippines-born immigrants had never worked in the past, 22 per cent of the Pakistan-born immigrants in Canada reported never being in the workforce.

The difference in wages, home-ownership rates, and employment rates between immigrants from India and Pakistan extend beyond the economic spheres. For instance, Pakistani-born immigrants live in large-sized families. Whereas only 13 per cent of India-born immigrants live in households of five persons or more, 44 per cent of the Pakistan-born immigrants live in households with five or more people. Given the lower wages, high unemployment rates and rental units, Pakistan-born immigrants experience severe crowding at homes where the number of residents per room is perhaps the highest owing to the large family sizes.

Given similar cultural endowments, education, and language skills, it is important to explore why Pakistan-born immigrants in Canada have lagged behind their Indian counterparts. The Indian diaspora is much larger in size and has been established in Canada for over a longer period, which has allowed immigrants from India to benefit from the social networks required to establish oneself in employment markets.

While immigrants from Pakistan lack the social networks necessary for success with employment, I would also argue that they suffer from a self-imposed identity crisis. After arriving from Pakistan, many male immigrants feel threatened by the Canadian liberal values, which empower their children and women. Suddenly the head of the household cannot dictate the way he did in Pakistan. Instead of embracing the change that empowers their families, several male immigrants end up in a hostile standoff with their families that sometimes lasts for decades. At the same time, religious leaders, which are almost always imported from back home to serve in mosques in Canada, preach orthodoxy to the parish, further confusing the struggling males.

With turmoil at home and bleak employment prospects outside, Pakistan-born male immigrants struggle with the decision to stay in Canada or return to Pakistan. Children and wives are often shipped back to Pakistan for prolonged periods while the males continue struggling in the job market. While their children see themselves as Canadians, the Pakistan-born male immigrants spent decades figuring out how to cope with their hyphenated identity, i.e., Pakistani-Canadian.

The limited success of (mostly Asian and African) immigrants in the economic spheres and their modest assimilation in the mainstream Canadian culture has prompted the right-wing groups to launch campaigns against immigration to Canada. While opponents of immigration are mostly naïve and their recommendations to reduce immigration border on lunacy, the fact remains that huge changes in the Canadian immigration policies are already taking place. In Saskatchewan, for instance, the provincial government on May 2 has changed the law that now prohibits immigrants from sponsoring their extended family members unless they secure a “high skill” job offer before arrival.

Since 2001, Pakistan has lost the most in its share of supplying immigrants to Canada. Pakistan was the third largest source of immigrants to Canada in 2001 supplying 6.1 per cent of the total immigrants. However, by 2010 Pakistan’s share of immigrants declined by 71 per cent. Pakistan is no longer even in the top 10 sources of immigrants for Canada. At the same time, the Philippines experienced a 153 per cent increase in its share of immigrants making it the biggest source of immigrants to Canada in 2010.
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While there is no shortage of applicants in Pakistan, it is hard to establish the precise reason for the declining number of immigrants. It could be that the dismal performance of Pakistan-based immigrants may have prompted the government to reduce the intake from Pakistan. It may also be true that the exponential increase in violence and militancy in Pakistan may have made the task of verifying credentials and identifying future citizens much more difficult.

Over the next 50 years Canada will need millions more immigrants. The current and expected fertility rates in Canada suggest that immigration is the only possible way of ensuring enough workers needed for economic growth and to keep solvent Canada’s security net. Pakistan-born immigrants had the chance to excel in Canada and pave the way for future generations of enterprising immigrants. Instead, Pakistan-born immigrants became the face of Canada’s urban poverty. Their dismal performance in Canada and the spread of religious fanaticism back home will most likely further reduce immigration from Pakistan.

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Murtaza Haider, Ph.D. is the Associate Dean of research and graduate programs at the Ted Rogers School of Management at Ryerson University in Toronto. He can be reached by email at murtaza.haider@ryerson.ca
 
Some canadian Pakistani will reply here...

But many Pakistanis in Britain have a minimalist lifestyle and to an outsider will look poor but have villas in Pakistan and hefty bank balances in UK...
Same may be true for Canadian Pakistanis....
 
you really no need to make it colorful event .its already done by karan1970 here .BTW we have nothing to do with candians :azn:
 
you really no need to make it colorful event .its already done by karan1970 here .BTW we have nothing to do with candians :azn:

U say u have nothing to do with Canadians? Check this out from wikipedia.

Relations with Pakistan

Main article: Canada–Pakistan relations
Most Pakistani Canadians maintain very close links with Pakistan and this has been kept alive with second and third generation Pakistani Canadians as well. They travel at least once every few years to Pakistan and often take back gifts of money, food, and clothing for friends and family, and donate generously to charities. Pakistan International Airlines serves Toronto's Lester B. Pearson International Airport three times a week non-stop to Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and has been one of the most profitable routes in the entire network.[18] The relationship between the Canadian and Pakistani governments in the past few decades has become close as well, and within the last ten years trade between the two countries has increased significantly. Pakistani Canadians maintain a deep interest in the society and politics of Pakistan. Funds are raised by the community for the different political parties and groups in Pakistan. Pakistani Canadians raised the third largest number of funds among the Pakistani diaspora to help Pakistan during the 2005 Pakistan earthquake. Annually Pakistani Canadians send remittances of approximately $50 million dollars to Pakistan.[19]


Pakistani Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
It seems this news didn't explain everything. Many Canadian-Pakistani didn't have problem here, as they happy living here comfortable lifestyles.

However some real issues see below for newcomers:

While immigrants from Pakistan lack the social networks necessary for success with employment, I would also argue that they suffer from a self-imposed identity crisis. After arriving from Pakistan, many male immigrants feel threatened by the Canadian liberal values, which empower their children and women.

They have to learn to be adjusted to the new environment instead sending your children to madrassah schools.
 
while its okay to make a 'little-<any country> in a host country, that should be only a supplement to interacting with local culture and values. again pakistanis appear poor in uk, canada etc because the people who migrate are usually blue collar workers in majority (ami i right?) for indians , the middle class professionals form a larger propotion of migrants.
I think this only says that, pak rich dont have to migrate as is the case with indias rich.
indias middle class migrates more than pakistani middle class in other words the percentage of indian middle class is higher. for poor souls i think both pak and india export them in high numbers , but Pak's poor immigrant are visible because they dont have the flashy white collar professionals to cover for them , whereas in india's case for every 'Tony Singh cabwalla' in new york you have two "Ram Iyer cybermonkey" in silicon valley.
 
I tyhink the difference is nothing to be worried about for Pakistani-Canadians. Most Indians that migrate overseas are doing Masters, PhD in professional fields, while most Pakistanis I see here in Canada came here as blur collar workers, so obviously there is going to be a difference of pay and poverty levels.
 
I tyhink the difference is nothing to be worried about for Pakistani-Canadians. Most Indians that migrate overseas are doing Masters, PhD in professional fields, while most Pakistanis I see here in Canada came here as blur collar workers, so obviously there is going to be a difference of pay and poverty levels.

exactly, that just proves that indian professionals are more eager to move out maybe due to lack of opportunities, compared to pakistanis middle class.
 
while its okay to make a 'little-<any country> in a host country, that should be only a supplement to interacting with local culture and values. again pakistanis appear poor in uk, canada etc because the people who migrate are usually blue collar workers in majority (ami i right?) for indians , the middle class professionals form a larger propotion of migrants.
I think this only says that, pak rich dont have to migrate as is the case with indias rich.
indias middle class migrates more than pakistani middle class in other words the percentage of indian middle class is higher. for poor souls i think both pak and india export them in high numbers , but Pak's poor immigrant are visible because they dont have the flashy white collar professionals to cover for them , whereas in india's case for every 'Tony Singh cabwalla' in new york you have two "Ram Iyer cybermonkey" in silicon valley.
No, I think the Pakistani immigrants to the US are middle class and more educated. The ones from the UK are mainly Mirpuris who came here with nothing after that mangla dam business. Where I live are still very middle class, the house ownership is high, they drive nice cars and they own small-medium businesses.
 
No, I think the Pakistani immigrants to the US are middle class and more educated. The ones from the UK are mainly Mirpuris who came here with nothing after that mangla dam business. Where I live are still very middle class, the house ownership is high, they drive nice cars and they own small-medium businesses.
then why is it that we find the face of pakistan in US is that of blue collar wrkers? i am not saying there are no professionals, but the balance is tilted to blue collrs
 
I partially agree with the Article, there is another side, indians, bangladeshis, nepalese and sri-lankans have the same position.

imran, you have everything to do with Pakistani immigrants, dollars are sent to Pakistan that helps Pakistan's economy directly or indirectly what you eat has contribution from Pakistanis abroad, praise them what ever economy is left is due to overseas Pakistanis. Do you know how much money my family sends to Pakistan hint appx 0.5M RS Yearly..., I haven't even included Zakat, Qurbani...:cheers:

I visited Saskatchewan and saw hindustani are in terrible position where-as in their capacity Pakistan are well off I myself know 7 families who recently shifted to their own homes (not apartments) with their own brand spanking new multiple cars, If one calculate the stats i say Pakistanis are doing very well the article is partially biased to reflect Pakistanis across the globe in bad position. Another example i know a person who was looking for jobs in Pakistan an engineer with 7 Years experience, today he is working for Sasktel Communications with $4800 monthly salary, another example a man from punjab you can call him cutter punjabi perhaps hardly matriculate and Yet he earns $4000+ driving taxi with his own home apart from earnings coming from child benefits 3 children under 12 that is another $750. Back in Mississauga-Toronto I know atleast 4 Families who have their own nice homes and multiple cars, oh and forgot alot of Pakistanis working in Mines the average Pay is 4000+ plus free Tickets and accommodations. The only time i came across were two Pakistan who were working in walmart and call centers and couldn't find reasonable Jobs. A really bad perception and negative article against Pakistan, i would give the article 33% credibility rest is false, you people may disagree with me.
 
Though I can't say for certain, I'd say maybe the discrimination faced by Pakistanis across the globe is one of the reasons for this situation. Why else would the Canadians waste a perfectly good M.phil in Economics ?
 
Is how much time and money is required for immigration to Canada for a person like me living in Karachi, Im 23 years old with B.Com and a data entry job.
 
Though I can't say for certain, I'd say maybe the discrimination faced by Pakistanis across the globe is one of the reasons for this situation. Why else would the Canadians waste a perfectly good M.phil in Economics ?

I recall reading sometime earlier, getting jobs in Canada is kinda difficult
 
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