Pakistani Urdu Weekly: 'Iran Is A Greater Danger For Muslims Than Israel' – Israel Has Not 'Massacre

[Falcon29]

I don't see why Israel needs to be dragged into subject. Just state that Iran is a major threat to Arab world, and the threat needs to be tackled. Dragging Israel into conversation either means you're really dumb or trying to credit Israel.

Some Arabs/Muslims here are played around with like dolls. Have some dignity for yourselves and don't let others dictate your thought process. I view Iran as threat as well, but no reason for me to exonerate Israel of its crimes or to exalt it.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Article written by Mullah...It was bound to happen that it will create hate on sectarian bases.. Mullahs are one of the reason for violence and unrest in the world.. Every section is same and they Don, t accept and respect views of other section.

 

[haviZsultan]

In our town we live with shia brothers with peace.
1. Shia brothers provide security in 12 rabiul Awal gathering, we provide security in Ashoor and Muharam protests.
2. We follow and love Ahle bait A.S just like our shia brothers.
3. Pakistani Shias hate India just like pakistani ahle Sunnah.
4. We fought four wars with India together.
5. Our leader Jinah was isna Ashri Shia. We follow his ideology.

Trust me Sipah Muhammad SAW involves in bank robbery and target killings to please there masters. They were strong at the time of creation now by the grace of Almighty there strength is crushed.
Both Aale saud and khumanie influence created trouble in our beloved country.

What proof do you have that sipah e muhammed is linked to bank robberies and target killings? The only people Sipah E Muhammed has killed till today are LEJ/SSP/ASWJ terrorists. Its useful if we sunnis feel a little bit of the pain of the shia. Since the war on terror and often even before it shias have been facing the brunt of attacks from wahabi terrorists. There have been multiple attacks on shia mosques and individuals. Thousands of Hazaras have been killed in Quetta.

Its much better to feel sympathy with shias than being divided by sectarian worldviews. Unfortunately we sunnis are being raised to hate others. Also I will note that in whichever time we have aligned ourselves with the US we have suffered internal disorder and violence. Most clear example is Zia Ul Haq time when all these jihadi organizations were born.

 

[Burhan Wani]

What proof do you have that sipah e muhammed is linked to bank robberies and target killings? The only people Sipah E Muhammed has killed till today are LEJ/SSP/ASWJ terrorists. Its useful if we sunnis feel a little bit of the pain of the shia. Since the war on terror and often even before it shias have been facing the brunt of attacks from wahabi terrorists. There have been multiple attacks on shia mosques and individuals. Thousands of Hazaras have been killed in Quetta.

Its much better to feel sympathy with shias than being divided by sectarian worldviews. Unfortunately we sunnis are being raised to hate others. Also I will note that in whichever time we have aligned ourselves with the US we have suffered internal disorder and violence. Most clear example is Zia Ul Haq time when all these jihadi organizations were born.

My cousin told me about their activities. He is a serving operational senior officer of FIA.

 

[The SiLent crY]

After defeat of Iran in Syria, Lebanon and Yemen, the next step should be to support insurgency within Iran to topple the regime. Only when the Mullah regime is gone, there will be peace between Sunni and Shia.

Poor Islam that is followed by the ones who sleep with the US and west at nights and call for Jihad next morning .

What I see here are the signs of the same Islam that put Quran on the spears .

 

[Rukarl]

I don't see why Israel needs to be dragged into subject. Just state that Iran is a major threat to Arab world, and the threat needs to be tackled. Dragging Israel into conversation either means you're really dumb or trying to credit Israel.

Some Arabs/Muslims here are played around with like dolls. Have some dignity for yourselves and don't let others dictate your thought process. I view Iran as threat as well, but no reason for me to exonerate Israel of its crimes or to exalt it.

Islamic Republic is a threat for you guys, with their weapon and financial support to Palestinian militants they give Israel reason to delay the peace process.

 

[The SiLent crY]

I don't see why Israel needs to be dragged into subject. Just state that Iran is a major threat to Arab world, and the threat needs to be tackled. Dragging Israel into conversation either means you're really dumb or trying to credit Israel.

Some Arabs/Muslims here are played around with like dolls. Have some dignity for yourselves and don't let others dictate your thought process. I view Iran as threat as well, but no reason for me to exonerate Israel of its crimes or to exalt it.

You view Iran as a threat because it was the only country supported you against Israel while your Arab bros were drinking with them and helping Israel to bring you to your knees .

Shame on you betrayers , You're the ones that support Saudis in Yemen that is exactly what Israel has done to your people for decades .

 

[Hussein]

Islamic Republic is a threat for you guys, with their weapon and financial support to Palestinian militants they give Israel reason to delay the peace process.

if i was reading you and only you, i would think that the only reason why there is no process of peace is because of Iran
but then you forget very much about history and past peace processes .

 

[raptor22]

Shutup idiot, iran cut ties with us. And no, viewing Iran as threat to Arab world has no relation to Palestinian cause. Iranian regime and Arab regimes are biggest two threats to region and the self determination of people on region. I could care less about what you refer to as 'Arab bros', as I won't shed a tear over any Arab regime collapse. But for you, it has much deeper meaning, you mean all Arabs. Your hatred for Arabs is very deep and rooted to an ancient Persian rivalry which is not of my liking. I don't justify such unislamic causes.

The only 'betrayers' here are you clowns who advertised yourselves as something you aren't during the whole time advancing your sectarian agenda in region. Now go settle your issues with your 'Arab bros' and get us done with it already.

I'll ask God to help you against these evil Iranian ... they are so evil ... you don't need us we should have dealt you over our interests years ago ...

 

[Superboy]

Islamic Republic is a threat for you guys, with their weapon and financial support to Palestinian militants they give Israel reason to delay the peace process.

Aren't Pakistan and Iran both Islamic Republics?

 

[-SINAN-]

I am not into sectarian issues but last time I saw a Kashmiri (Shiite) calling the Turks an enemy of humanity then I thought he's most likely an Irani, I didn't expect a Kashmiri or Pakistani to say such a thing for the Turks then asked him 'are you from Iran?' he replied me back 'No, Kashmir/India'

That exactly proves some of my Pakistani friends and their claims on Kashmir here.
I truly didn't expect such a labeling and in my personal view Shiite or not, life of my Pakistani friend comes before mine.

We are brothers with Pakistanis.....

I didn't know about the sects 2 years ago.....but all i can say is Iran lead shias are.....well, they are not to be trusted.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistani Urdu Weekly: 'Iran Is A Greater Danger For Muslims Than Israel' – Israel Has Not 'Massacred The Muslim Population In Iraq, Nor It Has Bloodied Rivers With Muslim Blood In Syria'

In a recent article, the Urdu-language Pakistani weekly Haftroza Al-Qalam called Iran a bigger threat to the Muslim world than Israel. In the article, the weekly, which is published by the leading Pakistani military-supported jihadi organization Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM), argued that the Yemen crisis has exposed Iran's reality to many Muslims and accused Iran of spreading its tentacles across the entire Middle East.

A screen shot of Haftroza Al-Qalam

Print copies of Haftroza Al-Qalam are widely available in Pakistani cities. The JeM, which publishes the magazine under its charity arm Al-Rehmat Trust, is headed by Maulana Masood Azhar, one of the three militants released by India in exchange for the passengers of an Indian plane hijacked from Kathmandu to Kandahar via India in 1999. At that time, Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban. Maulana Masood Azhar had been in arrested by Indian security forces and imprisoned in Kashmir.

The article is actually a column called "From the pen of Saadi," which is believed to be authored by Maulana Masood Azhar. The article goes on to say that an effort is underway to make the Koranic verses regarding jihad redundant. He draws parallels between what he calls the present-day "mischief" and the "mischief" in early Islam when Islamic scholars clashed on the concept of whether the Koran was "given" by Allah or "created" by humans.

Following are excerpts from the Haftroza Al-Qalam article:

"Yes, Muslims! Iran Is A Danger; Only Iran Is The Protector Of Israel And Of All The Infidels In This Region [Of The Middle East]"

"[I am] grateful for the fact that because of the crisis in Yemen, Iran's reality has been exposed to a lot of Muslims. Iran is a greater danger for Muslims than Israel. British intelligence agencies' hundred-year effort created the Iranian Revolution. Yes, no doubt, Israel too is a big threat and a big enemy, but it lives in fear and worry to save its existence.

"It [Israel] has not helped international imperialists in Afghanistan; neither has it massacred the Muslim population in Iraq, nor it has bloodied rivers with Muslims' blood in Syria; it did not cut the throats of Muslims in Yemen. But Iran has done all of these. You just read the moving story of the horrible massacre of Muslims in the Iraqi city of Tikrit [by a pro-Iran militia]. You would not believe that man can resort to such cruelty.

"The West itself concocted and spread stories about Daulat-e-Islamia's [ISIS] cruelty, but the international media has not spared two minutes, or two lines, in reporting how in Tikrit the Iranian Pasban [militia] put Genghis Khan and Halaku Khan [the 13th century Mongol invaders] to shame. This is because Iran is, at this time, the 'darling' of the infidels.

"Even the blind know about BBC London – that it is an effective anti-Islam organization operated with Jewish money. The BBC likes neither maulvis [clerics] nor Islamic governments, but it has a different criterion for Iran – their clerics are acceptable; their hardline government [in Tehran] is acceptable; their aggressive punishments [violating human rights] are tolerated; and now it [Iran] is open-heartedly supported [by BBC-like Western institutions] in the Yemen crisis.

"Yes, the ground is being prepared for Dajjal [the Anti-Christ; here referring to Iran]... And now this monster's [Iran's] tentacles have spread from Tehran to Beirut. But [its] dreams beyond [Beirut] are a bit sour. After Yemen, there definitely is Saudi [Arabia] but Mecca and Medina are very closely guarded. The Dajjal cannot enter there.

"Yes, Muslims! Iran is a danger. Only Iran is the protector of Israel and all the infidels in this region. But thankfully, this enemy behind Taqqiya [a reference to the Islamic concept of mendacity about religion for self-protection] is exposed. Should it take steps towards the Holy Places [of Mecca and Medina] or Pakistan, it will be dishonored, Allah willing."

"One Great Remedy For The Wrath Of Allah Told About In The Koran: Jihad In The Path Of Allah; Go Out To Wage Jihad [To] Avoid Punishment; Wherever [You] Find Fronts Of Shari'i Jihad, Go There "

"If you have studied the history of the Planet Earth, you will know that sometimes attacks of earthquakes, storms, and Satans increase on Earth. That is the situation today. The world's highest peak, Everest, has been shaken by an earthquake, and the earth has shaken within across thousands of miles. Nepal has broken down; the skies are thundering everywhere and casting down water and lightning on the Earth. This is the time to say prayers for protection from Allah's wrath..."

"One great remedy for the wrath of Allah told about in the Koran is: jihad in the path of Allah. Go out to wage jihad, [to] avoid punishment. Wherever [you] find fronts of Shari'i [Shariah-based] jihad, go there, punishments will move from your path. Put your life in jihad, spend your money in jihad, use your tongue in jihad, [for] war, training, funerals, support... then [you will] see Allah's victory and mercy.

"The second remedy to avoid Allah's wrath is [to seek Allah's] forgiveness. For a Muslim, there is no escape from forgiveness. Forgiveness is the protection of Ummah [the global Muslim nation] and the protector of faith. For those who have heart, the month of Rajab [the seventh month of the Islamic calendar] is more beneficial for [seeking] forgiveness. [It] will purify [you] of sin, and, Allah willing, every problem will be solved. And [it] will protect from wrath. Seek forgiveness to avoid earthquakes, storms, and Satan. Seek mercy from your beloved Allah... [When you genuinely] seek forgiveness [from Allah], a single teardrop... is so powerful that it extinguishes fire of hell; the storms of this world have no meaning before the fire of hell... Whenever rain or storm arrive, vow to wage jihad, spend money on jihad, busy yourself in forgiveness and prayer..."

"Today Every TV Channel [In Pakistan And Elsewhere] Spits Venom Against These [Koranic] Verses [On Jihad]; Today Every Westernized Columnist Pens Denial Of The Meaning And Objective Of These Verses"

"Yesterday I spent some time with the 10th volume of the authentic book of history Al-Bidayah Wal Nihayah. This comprehensive book is by [14th century Sunni scholar] Ibn Kathir Al-Damishqi. It is considered very respectable among the learned. It begins talking about the highly regarded Imam of the Muslim Ummah, [ninth-century Muslim scholar] Hazrat Ahmed Ibn Hanbal. After writing of his virtues... Ibn Kathir mentions his dreams about Imam Sahib. He first presented the evidence that true dreams are reliable and that for a pious person they are sources of knowledge and guidance..."

"In the times of Imam Sahib [Ibn Hanbal], a mischief surfaced, and the rulers of the time were protectors of that mischief. The mischief, against the Koran, [maintained] that, Allah forbid, the Koran is a 'creation.' Imam Sahib took a stand against that. He was beaten, imprisoned; restrictions were imposed... but he remained steadfast. At last, his determination broke the back of this mischief. First it became weak, and then, with the help of Allah, it died out completely..."

"In our times, there is a mischief that is rife, that rejects the Koran's verses regarding jihad. This mischief is protected by rulers. This mischief is also considered scholarship of the times, as the mischief regarding the Koran being a creation [was during the times of Imam Hanbal]. Different classes [of society] are the flag-bearers of this mischief. Some openly reject [these jihadi verses] and some are arriving at rejecting them through tempering/reinterpretation. But for all of them, the objective and conclusion is the same: that these verses, Allah forbid, should be used only for recitation today, and [some argue that] Muslims should abandon the concept of acting upon these verses [about the need for waging jihad]..."

"In such circumstances, some lovers [of jihad] will come to your door to [invite you]: Oh Muslims, come for seven days and study the commentary of the Koran's verses on jihad [at week-long courses held by Jaish-e-Muhammad in towns across Pakistan]; come and study the commentary of these verses whose commentary is being destroyed... [by those who argue against jihad]; come and play your part in the service of Allah's book; come and play your part in the protection of Allah's book. Allah has promised to protect his book..."

"Today, every TV channel spits venom against these verses [on jihad]. Today, every Westernized columnist pens denial of the meaning and objective of these verses. Today, foreign embassies are releasing funds worth crores [1 crore = 10 million] of dollars monthly to erase these verses. Today, writers and various groups of so-called researchers, undert the guidance of apostates like [liberal Pakistani theologian Javed Ahmad] Ghamidi and [Indian Muslim scholar Maulana] Wahiduddin are sweating against these verses.

"Stand up under these circumstances; we all must recite these verses together, study the meaning of these verses, study the commentary of these verses, smell the fragrance of these verses, and make our hearts and souls fragrant.

"[At these week-long courses,] come and meet the martyrs of the battles of Badr and Uhud [early Islamic battles], in the shadow of these verses. Come and meet [i.e. understand the role of] our beloved Prophet [Muhammad] as military commander, in light of these verses. Come and find the path of honor, greatness, freedom and martyrdom through these verses and declare: Oh Allah, we believe in your book, and we obey its every verse.

"How fortunate are those who after a few days will teach these verses. They themselves will shine and they will make others shine; they themselves will weep and make others weep, and make the people understand that the religion is the same as the one given to us by the Prophet Muhammad; that the jihad is the same as the one he gave us.

"Glorious is Allah, service of the Koran, protection of the Koran, and the invitation of the Koran's meetings are about to take place [i.e. the week-long courses]. Brothers, work for these meetings, participate in them, and expand the aura of its glow. Yes, I say the truth: value its blessings."


Source: Haftroza Al-Qalam (Pakistan), May 1-7, 2015. Edition 493.

1998-2015, The Middle East Media Research Institute. All Rights Reserved. Materials may only be cited with proper attribution.

[h/t: Elder of Ziyon]

widely available ? Where? This is the first time I'm hearing/reading its name!


Memri n elders of ziyon must be on some really good shit (not a surprise)...



Quit posting this Zionist propoganda here Solomon ...

No we ain't sectarian we killed 40 plus today for fun, we killed hazaras for fun, when they aren't around we then start brelvi, hanafi, deobandi divisions, of course we are not sectarian.

You follow Jinnah I follow my conscious & Justice.

If ppl followed JINNAH we wouldn't have been so divided today ..

 

[haviZsultan]

The government should actually give jobs in the police force to volunteers of sipah e muhammed. These guys have really been pushed. I believe shias should be given equal rights and the bloody attacks on them must immediately stop

My cousin told me about their activities. He is a serving operational senior officer of FIA.

Your cousin told you-hence it becomes the undisputed truth.

We are brothers with Pakistanis.....

I didn't know about the sects 2 years ago.....but all i can say is Iran lead shias are.....well, they are not to be trusted.

All of our countries should work together. Especially we must stop waging war on each other. Turkey and Pakistan are friends and there is much that our country can actually learn from Turkey. Its model of secularism has brought better living conditions to the people of Turkey.

Okay I have read enough. These people are a militat group (the presentation is by JEM) support the ISIS and Solomon is promoting them. No wonder people say that Americans and Taliban/terrorists are one thing. Even the lashkaris (peace militias) I have seen on tv and read statements of say that America is just the same as the Taliban. I hope that someone, that chosen one rises fast-the one who has to bring this country (US) down-be it China Russia Pakistan or whichever country. I would just like an America going down the drain especially after they and their jihadi buddy Zia Ul Haq turned Pakistan into a place of festering militancy.

Solomon should ask his pathetic government why Muslim Khan a known jihadi was not arrested while living in US and why Abdullah Mehsud was released from prison only to return to Pakistan and kidnap Chinese engineers. We cannot trust Americans with their evil colonial policies. They are just a continuation of British hegemony

 

[bsruzm]

We are brothers with Pakistanis.....

I didn't know about the sects 2 years ago.....but all i can say is Iran lead shias are.....well, they are not to be trusted.

I had a chance to chat with a retired Pakistani commander who also after his retirement, served as a teacher in Embassy of Pakistan Turkey that our past and brotherhood was on top of our chat, as I understood he was aware of such a conflict in Gulf long ago and were afraid Pakistan to be involved.
I am glad Pakistan such as Turkey isn't involved in such conflict.
This is neither Iran nor Saudi Arabia, there is something bigger than both and they are only being played in my opinion.
Instead a senseless violence a political solution what represents everybody, must be found.

 

[kalu_miah]

Where do these nonsense articles come from and an American has the audacity to post them as well even though they are posted by jihadi terrorists. The only reason to spread this rubbish anti shia propaganda is to increase the sectarian bloodletting in the country. The article blames Iran, which is alright, everyone should be free to have his views, but what is not being told is that this is a terrorist group actively attacking shias in Pakistan.

Making countries fight and argue over shia sunni is part of wider conspiracy. Iran does not pose even a quarter of the threat the Americans want us to believe they are. Us killing each other and squabbling over petty problems is the plan of the American nation to keep us weak.

America has always been linked to terror networks. Solomon is one typical such American who celebrates when bombs go of in Pakistan and other nations of the muslim world while crying about Islamic terrorists. The Americans are the father of all Jihadis in the world today, their sanctioned invasion of Afghanistan by Taliban/(so called) Mujahideen militias is known to be the event that gave birth to terrorism worldwide. Even Raymond Davis the cia guy had cultivated ties with the Lashkar e Jhangvi, a terrorist outfit known to target shias.

@Irfan Baloch This thread has NO purpose. It is a typical shia sunni war thread created just to please Solomon's American senses as we muslims fight and slander each other.

Please look at the message, not the messenger. How can you ignore Iran's role in what is happening in Middle-east since 1979? The US did many things and still are doing, but that is not the topic here. Most people hardly cared about Iran and its proxies before what Assad regime did in Syria. If you still say that Muslims should not fight Muslims, Shia Sunni should not fight, you are burying your head in the sand. The only way this will stop is when one side is defeated and stops pushing their sectarian agenda.

I had a chance to chat with a retired Pakistani commander who also after his retirement, served as a teacher in Embassy of Pakistan Turkey that our past and brotherhood was on top of our chat, as I understood he was aware of such a conflict in Gulf long ago and were afraid Pakistan to be involved.
I am glad Pakistan such as Turkey isn't involved in such conflict.
This is neither Iran nor Saudi Arabia, there is something bigger than both and they are only being played in my opinion.
Instead a senseless violence a political solution what represents everybody, must be found.

Most world powers want to keep this fight going, so Muslim countries get weaker. Obama has been balancing this fight from the beginning, so maximum number dies from both sides. Now that Sunni's are getting an upper hand in this war of attrition, he is hurrying up to make the nuclear deal with Iran and free up billions for Iran, so there is balance again and the killing continues as before.